Ed The Hypocracy--End The ?Doping

I raced with this guy, I was once in a two up break in hot weather with him he had 7 supporters
dotted about a 6km curcuit each with sponges full of water ! I was soaked just riding behind him !
looking back now I realised that he was probably charged out of his skull & needed to keep cool.

"B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]... Time, IMO, to end doping by declaring
all chemical/biological aid legal. From CyclingNews:

Verhaegen also admitted that he had taken drugs. "Until my 25th birthday I rode clean. Then I won
about ten races per season. After that not only my but also my supporters always wanted more.
Without that you have to look for other means. And then you come naturally to doping. And I am
certainly not the only one in the peloton who does. The world is sick. But I find that this
hypocrisy must be broken down."

These kinds of stories, without a doubt, aren't unusual. What's been intereting to me following RBR
for a short time now is the response, or mostly the lack of response whenever a doping question or
statement is put to the board. The vocal "anti" group seems to be mostly the same names, whereas,
even more striking, is the largely lack of response from the "hard-core" racing types who, perhaps,
could offer the most pertinent insight. Is this subject so taboo that no one wants to touch it?
Maybe it's just been re-hashed one time too many? Or is it just silence is the best policy?

"Phil Stone" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I raced with this guy, I was once in a two up break in hot weather with

him

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he had 7 supporters dotted about a 6km curcuit each with sponges full of water ! I was soaked just
riding behind him ! looking back now I realised that he was probably charged out of his skull &
needed to keep cool.

"B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]... Time, IMO, to end doping by
declaring all chemical/biological aid legal. From CyclingNews:

Verhaegen also admitted that he had taken drugs. "Until my 25th birthday I rode clean. Then I won
about ten races per season. After that not only my but also my supporters always wanted more.
Without that you have to look

for

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other means. And then you come naturally to doping. And I am certainly not the only one in the
peloton who does. The world is sick. But I find that this hypocrisy must be broken down."

"Phil Stone" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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I raced with this guy, I was once in a two up break in hot weather with

him

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he had 7 supporters dotted about a 6km curcuit each with sponges full of water ! I was soaked just
riding behind him ! looking back now I realised that he was probably charged out of his skull &
needed to keep cool.

He had a pretty amazing reputation, and when he was caught the first time showed very little
remorse. A friend of mine asked him "So Johan, why aren't you racing?". "Doping", with a shrug, was
the response. He was definitely a good rider, but not *that* good. But he's right about not being
the only one.

I'm pretty sure I was at the race (Boekhoute) where he was tested. They said they were doing random
controls but he was the only guy in the top 20 they tested. I don't know who picked the numbers out
of the hat that day.

Problem is, there is hardly any testing at the amateur level due to the cost involved and the large
number of races on. I'd guess that most of the amateurs who take stuff are justifying it because
they want to be on a level playing field. The risk of health problems in 15-20 years time doesn't
bother them in the slightest. It should though, because 15-20 years down the track, all they've got
is memories, if indeed they can remember their mighty drug induced feats.

Jeff

matabala said:

These kinds of stories, without a doubt, aren't unusual. What's been intereting to me following
RBR for a short time now is the response, or mostly the lack of response whenever a doping
question or statement is put to the board. The vocal "anti" group seems to be mostly the same
names, whereas, even more striking, is the largely lack of response from the "hard-core" racing
types who, perhaps, could offer the most pertinent insight. Is this subject so taboo that no one
wants to touch it? Maybe it's just been re-hashed one time too many? Or is it just silence is the
best policy?

Je me souviens:

A [censored] by the name of Jean Mazier.

In actual fact the DS of the French National Squad back in the 50's.

But he was much better known to all and sundry as Tonton Jean.

I always wondered why 😉

Maybe he liked Oriental Cooking?

--
le vent a Dos

Davey Crockett check #cycling on irc.freenode.net for live Vuelta Chat

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"B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message:

Time, IMO, to end doping by declaring all chemical/biological aid legal.

What good would that do? Even if it were legal, I would still be worried about the health effects. I
would therefore place myself at a greater disadvantage by not choosing to take EPO (for example).
And I'd guess that many, but not all, riders would feel the same way. It's not exactly a big
encouragement for the kiddies.

Jeff

"matabala" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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These kinds of stories, without a doubt, aren't unusual. What's

been

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intereting to me following RBR for a short time now is the response,

or

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mostly the lack of response whenever a doping question or statement

is put

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to the board. The vocal "anti" group seems to be mostly the same

names,

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whereas, even more striking, is the largely lack of response from

the

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"hard-core" racing types who, perhaps, could offer the most

pertinent

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insight. Is this subject so taboo that no one wants to touch it?

Maybe

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it's just been re-hashed one time too many? Or is it just silence

is the

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best policy?

Anyone that wins by doping hasn't won a thing and has only stolen the win from some
deserving person.