eBay scammers are funny

"Gooserider" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Does anybody fall for them? I mean, they don't even make an effort to seem
legitimate. A complete Orbea tri bike for $600, and it's being sold by
someone in the UK who previously only sold women's clothing and knick
knacks? eBay needs to get on this, but I can't imagine anybody being dumb
enough to get scammed...

Well I don't think that anyone who has any experience buying anything on
ebay would fall victim to this scam. I buy and sell stuff on ebay, and
knowing a little something about bikes, and how to check on a sellers
background on ebay. I am pretty sure *I* would be very wary, and not be a
victim.
Ken

Gooserider said:

Does anybody fall for them? I mean, they don't even make an effort to seem
legitimate. A complete Orbea tri bike for $600, and it's being sold by
someone in the UK who previously only sold women's clothing and knick
knacks? eBay needs to get on this, but I can't imagine anybody being dumb
enough to get scammed...

You never know though, and that's the problem, could be the person has
the bike, wants to sell it, and figured ebay was a good way. Maybe a
dealer offered $500 for this particular bike, and they thought if they
could get $600 then they would be happy, without knowing the true value
of it.....

Without knowing the condition of the bike, it could be a old, and in
poor condition. Is there an actual photo.....

W

"The Wogster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Gooserider said:

Does anybody fall for them? I mean, they don't even make an effort to

seem

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legitimate. A complete Orbea tri bike for $600, and it's being sold by
someone in the UK who previously only sold women's clothing and knick
knacks? eBay needs to get on this, but I can't imagine anybody being

dumb

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enough to get scammed...

You never know though, and that's the problem, could be the person has
the bike, wants to sell it, and figured ebay was a good way. Maybe a
dealer offered $500 for this particular bike, and they thought if they
could get $600 then they would be happy, without knowing the true value
of it.....

Without knowing the condition of the bike, it could be a old, and in
poor condition. Is there an actual photo.....

No, my point is you DO know it's fake. There are some dead giveaways:

1) Seller is offering a high end bike, but feedback shows no bike related
purchases. This is fishy, because people who are in to bikes tend to buy and
sell other bike stuff on eBay. ---hijacked account.

2) Seller has just created account and is offering high end bike.

3) Seller is registered in the UK. No offense to our British readers, but
the vast majority of the scammers register in the UK.

4) Seller does not accept PayPal, and asks for Western Union instead. DEAD
GIVEAWAY.

It's not hard to figure out who the scammers are.

Gooserider said:

"The Wogster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Gooserider said:

Does anybody fall for them? I mean, they don't even make an effort to

seem

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legitimate. A complete Orbea tri bike for $600, and it's being sold by
someone in the UK who previously only sold women's clothing and knick
knacks? eBay needs to get on this, but I can't imagine anybody being

dumb

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enough to get scammed...

You never know though, and that's the problem, could be the person has
the bike, wants to sell it, and figured ebay was a good way. Maybe a
dealer offered $500 for this particular bike, and they thought if they
could get $600 then they would be happy, without knowing the true value
of it.....

Without knowing the condition of the bike, it could be a old, and in
poor condition. Is there an actual photo.....

No, my point is you DO know it's fake. There are some dead giveaways:

1) Seller is offering a high end bike, but feedback shows no bike related
purchases. This is fishy, because people who are in to bikes tend to buy and
sell other bike stuff on eBay. ---hijacked account.

2) Seller has just created account and is offering high end bike.

3) Seller is registered in the UK. No offense to our British readers, but
the vast majority of the scammers register in the UK.

4) Seller does not accept PayPal, and asks for Western Union instead. DEAD
GIVEAWAY.

It's not hard to figure out who the scammers are.

Since IIRC you did not post the auction number, it's hard for everyone
else to know the details.....

W

"Gooserider" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"The Wogster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Gooserider said:

Does anybody fall for them? I mean, they don't even make an effort to

seem

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legitimate. A complete Orbea tri bike for $600, and it's being sold by
someone in the UK who previously only sold women's clothing and knick
knacks? eBay needs to get on this, but I can't imagine anybody being

dumb

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enough to get scammed...

You never know though, and that's the problem, could be the person has
the bike, wants to sell it, and figured ebay was a good way. Maybe a
dealer offered $500 for this particular bike, and they thought if they
could get $600 then they would be happy, without knowing the true value
of it.....

Without knowing the condition of the bike, it could be a old, and in
poor condition. Is there an actual photo.....

No, my point is you DO know it's fake. There are some dead giveaways:

1) Seller is offering a high end bike, but feedback shows no bike related
purchases. This is fishy, because people who are in to bikes tend to buy

and

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sell other bike stuff on eBay. ---hijacked account.

Well this could be because they have the bike and just want to get rid of
it.

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2) Seller has just created account and is offering high end bike.

This is very odd, I would look behind the curtains on this one.

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3) Seller is registered in the UK. No offense to our British readers, but
the vast majority of the scammers register in the UK.

I have no opinion on this one.

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4) Seller does not accept PayPal, and asks for Western Union instead. DEAD
GIVEAWAY.

I agree this is a giveaway.

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It's not hard to figure out who the scammers are.

"The Wogster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Gooserider said:

"The Wogster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Gooserider wrote:

>Does anybody fall for them? I mean, they don't even make an effort to

seem

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>legitimate. A complete Orbea tri bike for $600, and it's being sold by
>someone in the UK who previously only sold women's clothing and knick
>knacks? eBay needs to get on this, but I can't imagine anybody being

dumb

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>enough to get scammed...

You never know though, and that's the problem, could be the person has
the bike, wants to sell it, and figured ebay was a good way. Maybe a
dealer offered $500 for this particular bike, and they thought if they
could get $600 then they would be happy, without knowing the true value
of it.....

Without knowing the condition of the bike, it could be a old, and in
poor condition. Is there an actual photo.....

No, my point is you DO know it's fake. There are some dead giveaways:

1) Seller is offering a high end bike, but feedback shows no bike

related

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purchases. This is fishy, because people who are in to bikes tend to buy

and

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sell other bike stuff on eBay. ---hijacked account.

2) Seller has just created account and is offering high end bike.

3) Seller is registered in the UK. No offense to our British readers,

but

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the vast majority of the scammers register in the UK.

4) Seller does not accept PayPal, and asks for Western Union instead.

DEAD

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GIVEAWAY.

It's not hard to figure out who the scammers are.

Since IIRC you did not post the auction number, it's hard for everyone
else to know the details.....

Auction is already pulled, since I informed eBay. Look , I'm not just
talking about one particular auction, but scams in general. I've given you
the dead giveaways to look for---if you don't want to believe me, then good
luck bidding in the future. If you want to be safe, don't bid on high end
bicycles from people who've never sold bike stuff before, are registered in
the UK(unless they have a history of selling bike stuff), are newly
registered, or don't accept PayPal. :-)

"Gooserider" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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No, my point is you DO know it's fake. There are some dead giveaways:

1) Seller is offering a high end bike, but feedback shows no bike related
purchases. This is fishy, because people who are in to bikes tend to buy
and
sell other bike stuff on eBay. ---hijacked account.

2) Seller has just created account and is offering high end bike.

Common sense dictates you shouldn't buy high-end items from new users, I
sold an expensive Sony Laptop when I had around 10 feedback and got a good
price and plenty of bidders which shows how trusting people generally are.

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3) Seller is registered in the UK. No offense to our British readers, but
the vast majority of the scammers register in the UK.

eBay shouldn't allow people to register to sell on the UK site unless they
go through the same bank account check Paypal users go through, ie withdraw
an amount from 0 to 99 pence from a UK bank, verify the amount to activate
your account. They could ask for a scan of a birth certificate, passport or
current credit card to prove identity. They should also refuse connection
to anyone with an IP address not registered as a UK address. There is
virtually no policing of the UK site yet it wouldn't surprise me if it was
the 2nd most profitable in the eBay portfolio.

There were hundreds of websites highlighting people being scammed out of
millions of dollars before eBay UK was even created, considering there is
nowhere near that amount of fraud going on now at the eBay UK site I assume
the american site has tightened up it's registration policies to make it
harder for scammers if the vast majority of them now register in the UK. I
hope they bring those tougher rules over to the UK site.

It shouldn't be differcult to use Google to find sites of disgruntled eBay
users and register the nationalities of those sites to see where most of
those scammed dollars are coming from. Official figures in dollars of
registered claims under eBays and Paypals buyer protection schemes should
also be available in their respective stock market reports.

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4) Seller does not accept PayPal, and asks for Western Union instead. DEAD
GIVEAWAY.

No offense to our American readers but 50% of the time you will need to
western union that money to somebody in the USA, the other 50% of the time
to someone in Eastern Europe despite the auction advertising the item as
being in the UK. Never ever use western union.