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Quoted message said:Quoted message said:"Tony" qtrader2@(remove)hotmail.com
Quoted message said:Diabetics and extreme cases aside, it's
perfectly fine to eat that piece of cake as long as you can handle it
mentally and don't freak out.
I see what you're saying, but some people can't handle many carbs, period.
I'm
Quoted message said:not one of them -- in maintenance, I'm eating around 90-100 carbs per day.
But
Quoted message said:I'm fortunate in that regard, and we're all different. I also don't like
falling back on the exercise argument. Most of us exercise to the best of
our
Quoted message said:abilities and as fits in with our work and family lives. It's usually
easier
Quoted message said:to tailor the diet to the level of exercise rather than the other way
around.
I completely agree that tailoring the diet to the exercise is far better,
and that was why I took up the TKD approach. I was just saying that it
might be better for most people to allow themselves to eat that piece of
cake and some crackers with their cheese than to think any diversion is a
"cheat" and therefore all is lost and you might as well pig out because you
cheated. On big holidays like Christmas and thanksgiving when I know lots
of family will be around along with copious snack foods, I plan 1) a walk of
some kind that day for whoever wants to go with me (usually 1/2 the people
feel like it!), and 2) a longer than normal run the next day.
Quoted message said:I think most of us can figure out how to make allowances for a couple of
bites
Quoted message said:of birthday cake without gaining back all the weight we've lost. But there
are
Quoted message said:some people who even in maintenance are going to top out at around 30-40
carbs
Quoted message said:per day, and that cake will mean a lot more to them than it will to someone
who
Quoted message said:can handle 100 carbs per day.
Of course I agree; there are people who can hardly eat their metabolism is
so broken. It might be that even these people can benefit from eating carbs
specifically after exercise; it makes you recover better, feel stronger,
and more likely to be active in general.
Quoted message said:So I don't think the concern is something we can easily dismiss. Nor do I
think someone who has a piece of birthday cake (or three pints of ice cream
when fighting the [censored] next door, as was discussed in another thread)
is
Quoted message said:automatically doomed to failure. You fall off the wagon, you dust yourself
and
Quoted message said:get back on. Some people will be more bruised from that fall than others,
and
Quoted message said:that's part of the learning experience we all go through with this WOE.
Yes, most people won't fall off. I think that especially for people who
exercise vigorously *when* you eat your carbs is far more important than how
many you eat. One can burn fat and also have one's glycogen stores full at
the same time. A healthy metabolism will not burn the carbs first, but will
store them as an explosive emergency fuel. This is why TKD works very well
for those who like to exercise at a high level. In the 90 minutes after
intense exercise, a very high percentage of any simple carbs you eat will be
stored as glycogen. In fact, during this timeframe, the simple carbs are
better because they will be absorbed quickly. During this time carbs and a
little protein are good, fats will inhibit the glycogen building process.
Starting 90 minutes after exercise this capacity to metabolize carbs into
glycogen goes down dramatically. A little later, 2+ hours after exercise,
it's best to switch to eating more protein, fats, and complex carbs. Before
and during exercise is also a "safe" time metabolically to eat more carbs,
as long as you don't overdo it.
-Tony
Quoted message said:Daria
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sugar-free since 2/1/04
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