easy way up Kinder

In article <[email hidden]>, trevor
goyd <[email hidden]> writes

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I've been asked by a friend (honest), the easiest, shortest route to
the top of Kinder Scout. He wants to take his 80-year old Dad up there,
and is convinced there is 'a short cut to the top involving parking on
a nearby hill road.' - which is news to me, but does it ring any bells
with anybody out there ?

Probably the Snake Pass. To Kinder Low (highest point easily accessible)
it is ~5.5 miles (each way) + ~250m of ascent.

Easiest route to Kinder Low is probably from the village of Upper Booth
in the Edale valley. That is ~2.4 miles with ~360m of ascent.

I would say neither were a viable option unless dad is a very fit 80
year old and is used to regular exercise.

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Dominic Sexton

Park at Uper Booth and go up Crowden? It's kind of steep, though! I don't
think I'd be up to it when I reach 80.

You can get a 4x4 as far as Edale Cross, but I don't know if the landowner
would let you.

L

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Quoted message said:

I've been asked by a friend (honest), the easiest, shortest route to
the top of Kinder Scout. He wants to take his 80-year old Dad up there,
and is convinced there is 'a short cut to the top involving parking on
a nearby hill road.' - which is news to me, but does it ring any bells
with anybody out there ?

Trev

Dominic Sexton <[email hidden]> wrote

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In article <[email hidden]>,
trevor goyd <[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

I've been asked by a friend (honest), the easiest, shortest route to
the top of Kinder Scout. He wants to take his 80-year old Dad up there,
and is convinced there is 'a short cut to the top involving parking on
a nearby hill road.' - which is news to me, but does it ring any bells
with anybody out there ?

Probably the Snake Pass. To Kinder Low (highest point easily
accessible) it is ~5.5 miles (each way) + ~250m of ascent.

Easiest route to Kinder Low is probably from the village of Upper Booth
in the Edale valley. That is ~2.4 miles with ~360m of ascent.

I would say neither were a viable option unless dad is a very fit 80
year old and is used to regular exercise.

Agreed. Even from the Snake pass there is a pretty steep pull to get
onto the edge from Mill Hill vicinity! After that the path is fairly
level, as far as I remember.

I reckon the return trip from the Snake to the Downfall and back is
about 8 miles.
--
Gordon Harris

trevor goyd said:

I've been asked by a friend (honest), the easiest, shortest route to
the top of Kinder Scout. He wants to take his 80-year old Dad up there,
and is convinced there is 'a short cut to the top involving parking on
a nearby hill road.' - which is news to me, but does it ring any bells
with anybody out there ?

Trev

from Farlands at the end of Kinder road, about 1.8 miles each way, but
quite steep in places

In message <[email hidden]>, trevor
goyd <[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

I've been asked by a friend (honest), the easiest, shortest route to
the top of Kinder Scout. He wants to take his 80-year old Dad up there,
and is convinced there is 'a short cut to the top involving parking on
a nearby hill road.' - which is news to me, but does it ring any bells
with anybody out there ?

I wonder if he's referring to the lay-by on the A624 just south of
Chinley Head (GR 049844)?

I've never walked that way, but looking at the map I reckon you could
park there, take one of the paths to pass around the north of South
Head, continue roughly east to Brown Knoll then head north to Kinder
Scout.

I'm pretty sure this route avoids any hard climbs as the lay-by is
already quite high up, but I accept no responsibility for the accuracy
of that statement!
--
Chris Hill

In article <[email hidden]>, Chris Hill
<[email hidden]> writes

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In message <[email hidden]>,
trevor goyd <[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

I've been asked by a friend (honest), the easiest, shortest route to
the top of Kinder Scout. He wants to take his 80-year old Dad up there,
and is convinced there is 'a short cut to the top involving parking on
a nearby hill road.' - which is news to me, but does it ring any bells
with anybody out there ?

I wonder if he's referring to the lay-by on the A624 just south of
Chinley Head (GR 049844)?

I've never walked that way, but looking at the map I reckon you could
park there, take one of the paths to pass around the north of South
Head, continue roughly east to Brown Knoll then head north to Kinder
Scout.

That certainly looks like a contender ~3.5 miles and 330m of ascent to
Kinder Low.

--

Dominic Sexton

On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:55:49 +0000,

Chris Hill said:

In message <[email hidden]>, trevor
goyd <[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

I've been asked by a friend (honest), the easiest, shortest route to
the top of Kinder Scout. He wants to take his 80-year old Dad up there,
and is convinced there is 'a short cut to the top involving parking on
a nearby hill road.' - which is news to me, but does it ring any bells
with anybody out there ?

I wonder if he's referring to the lay-by on the A624 just south of
Chinley Head (GR 049844)?

I've never walked that way, but looking at the map I reckon you could
park there, take one of the paths to pass around the north of South
Head, continue roughly east to Brown Knoll then head north to Kinder
Scout.

I'm pretty sure this route avoids any hard climbs

I went up via Brown Knoll and the Edale Rocks (as part of a longer walk)
last year. The climbing from Brown Knoll is pretty easy however we walked
over Horsehill Tor and Brown Knoll and it was a bit heavy going and boggy
(and that was in high summer). Probably something to bear in mind as it
is probably as bad from the South Head side.

--
Andy Leighton => [email hidden]
"The Lord is my shepherd, but we still lost the sheep dog trials"
- Robert Rankin, _They Came And Ate Us_

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<[email hidden]> writes

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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:55:49 +0000,

Chris Hill said:

In message <[email hidden]>, trevor
goyd <[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

I've been asked by a friend (honest), the easiest, shortest route to
the top of Kinder Scout. He wants to take his 80-year old Dad up there,
and is convinced there is 'a short cut to the top involving parking on
a nearby hill road.' - which is news to me, but does it ring any bells
with anybody out there ?

I wonder if he's referring to the lay-by on the A624 just south of
Chinley Head (GR 049844)?

I've never walked that way, but looking at the map I reckon you could
park there, take one of the paths to pass around the north of South
Head, continue roughly east to Brown Knoll then head north to Kinder
Scout.

I'm pretty sure this route avoids any hard climbs

I went up via Brown Knoll and the Edale Rocks (as part of a longer walk)
last year. The climbing from Brown Knoll is pretty easy however we walked
over Horsehill Tor and Brown Knoll and it was a bit heavy going and boggy
(and that was in high summer). Probably something to bear in mind as it
is probably as bad from the South Head side.

I think that's going to be true no matter where you go up there. It's
all boggy.
--
Chris Hill

On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:11:26 +0000,

Chris Hill said:

In message <[email hidden]>, Andy Leighton
<[email hidden]> writes

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Quoted message said:

I went up via Brown Knoll and the Edale Rocks (as part of a longer walk)
last year. The climbing from Brown Knoll is pretty easy however we walked
over Horsehill Tor and Brown Knoll and it was a bit heavy going and boggy
(and that was in high summer). Probably something to bear in mind as it
is probably as bad from the South Head side.

I think that's going to be true no matter where you go up there. It's
all boggy.

True, but I always find boggy is far more energy sapping than firmer ground.
Considering the OP was talking about an 80 yo there is going to be a trade
off between choosing boggy ground or longer distance (and possibly greater
total ascent) over firmer ground.

--
Andy Leighton => [email hidden]
"The Lord is my shepherd, but we still lost the sheep dog trials"
- Robert Rankin, _They Came And Ate Us_

Dominic Sexton <[email hidden]> wrote

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In article <[email hidden]>, Chris Hill
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

I wonder if he's referring to the lay-by on the A624 just south of
Chinley Head (GR 049844)?

I've never walked that way, but looking at the map I reckon you could
park there, take one of the paths to pass around the north of South
Head, continue roughly east to Brown Knoll then head north to Kinder
Scout.

That certainly looks like a contender ~3.5 miles and 330m of ascent to
Kinder Low.

I could almost manage that! Many years ago a mate and I did a 14
miler from that layby via South Head etc which took in Rushup Edge and
Jacobs Ladder and a couple of pints in the George.
--
Gordon Harris

Chris Hill said:

I wonder if he's referring to the lay-by on the A624 just south of
Chinley Head (GR 049844)?

I agree, although I wouldn't recommend that route to anyone on
anything but either the driest summer day or the hardest winter
freeze. Brown Knoll isn't a name, its a onematopea.

Chris

In message <[email hidden]>, Gordon
<[email hidden]> writes

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Dominic Sexton <[email hidden]> wrote

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In article <[email hidden]>, Chris Hill
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

I wonder if he's referring to the lay-by on the A624 just south of
Chinley Head (GR 049844)?

I've never walked that way, but looking at the map I reckon you could
park there, take one of the paths to pass around the north of South
Head, continue roughly east to Brown Knoll then head north to Kinder
Scout.

That certainly looks like a contender ~3.5 miles and 330m of ascent to
Kinder Low.

I could almost manage that! Many years ago a mate and I did a 14
miler from that layby via South Head etc which took in Rushup Edge and
Jacobs Ladder and a couple of pints in the George.

The George in Hayfield?
--
Chris Hill

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Brown Knoll isn't a name, its a onematopea.

<show off>
onomatopoeia
</>

(Translation: bother, the cat's been on the mat)

--
To reply see 'from' in headers; lose the domain, and insert dots and @
where common sense dictates.

Fran said:

<show off>
onomatopoeia
</>

I closed my eyes and bashed a few keys so I was pretty close.

Chris

Chris Hill <[email hidden]> wrote

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In message <[email hidden]>, Gordon
<[email hidden]> writes

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I could almost manage that! Many years ago a mate and I did a
14 miler from that layby via South Head etc which took in Rushup Edge
and Jacobs Ladder and a couple of pints in the George.

The George in Hayfield?

Yes.
Though I can't remember where it is now!
--
Gordon Harris

In message <[email hidden]>, Gordon
<[email hidden]> writes

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Chris Hill <[email hidden]> wrote

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In message <[email hidden]>, Gordon
<[email hidden]> writes

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>
I could almost manage that! Many years ago a mate and I did a
14 miler from that layby via South Head etc which took in Rushup Edge
and Jacobs Ladder and a couple of pints in the George.

The George in Hayfield?

Yes.
Though I can't remember where it is now!

You did well to walk back over the hill, then.
--
Chris Hill

Chris Hill <[email hidden]> wrote

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In message <[email hidden]>, Gordon
<[email hidden]> writes

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Chris Hill <[email hidden]> wrote

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In message <[email hidden]>, Gordon
<[email hidden]> writes
>>
>I could almost manage that! Many years ago a mate and I did a
>14 miler from that layby via South Head etc which took in Rushup
>Edge and Jacobs Ladder and a couple of pints in the George.

The George in Hayfield?

Yes.
Though I can't remember where it is now!

You did well to walk back over the hill, then.

Wait a minute! I just realised that we started from Highgate
Road, the yellow road which loops off the A road, and parked at SK 045
859, so it was only a short pull out of Hayfield to the car. 🙂
--
Gordon Harris

In message <[email hidden]>, Gordon
<[email hidden]> writes

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Chris Hill <[email hidden]> wrote

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In message <[email hidden]>, Gordon
<[email hidden]> writes

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Chris Hill <[email hidden]> wrote
>In message <[email hidden]>, Gordon
><[email hidden]> writes
>>>
>>I could almost manage that! Many years ago a mate and I did
>>a 14 miler from that layby via South Head etc which took in Rushup
>>Edge and Jacobs Ladder and a couple of pints in the George.
>
>The George in Hayfield?

Yes.
Though I can't remember where it is now!

You did well to walk back over the hill, then.

Wait a minute! I just realised that we started from Highgate
Road, the yellow road which loops off the A road, and parked at SK 045
859, so it was only a short pull out of Hayfield to the car. 🙂

Ah yes - I've sweated up Highgate Road many times.
--
Chris Hill