Dynepo

Benjo Maso said:

I must have mentioned it in rbr. So it may be assumed that boys and
girls in the dope lab heard about it before. Or am I overrating their
competence?

The dope labs are using rbr for data mining ? I think its about time we
started charging for our services, if only to ensure the continued
existence of LIVEDRUNK (and delivery of the fabled LIVEDRUNK jerseys).

I wonder if Pound skulks around rbr to hear the nice things being said
about him.

"Donald Munro" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
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Quoted message said:

Benjo Maso said:

I must have mentioned it in rbr. So it may be assumed that boys and
girls in the dope lab heard about it before. Or am I overrating their
competence?

The dope labs are using rbr for data mining ?

They are not that bad! But of course I meant that if even I had heard about
it, people who are making a living to be expert on this terrain must have
been acquainted with it for a long time.

Quoted message said:

I think its about time we
started charging for our services, if only to ensure the continued
existence of LIVEDRUNK (and delivery of the fabled LIVEDRUNK jerseys).

I wonder if Pound skulks around rbr to hear the nice things being said
about him.

Who knows?

Benjo

Donald Munro said:

Quoted message said:

Damn, I need that picture of the bottle! Otherwise,
how aam I going to know if I'm getting the genuine
[censored] That Will Kill Them?

Dumbass,
Saline solution packaged in a Hemassist vial works
just as well.

Dumbass,

It's not the contents of the bottle so much, I need
the bottle itself, to toss away and drive my fellow
Masters Fatties crazy, just like Coppi did to Bartali:

One day in the 1946 Giro, Bartali saw Coppi drink a
small bottle of some liquid and throw it in the grass
by the roadside. "What the hell is it he drinks?"
Bartali asked himself.
"The first thing I did was note precisely where he
threw his bottle. After the Giro, which I won by 47
seconds over Fausto, I drove to the spot where the
bottle was, and after a little searching, found it.
The next day, first thing, I went to my personal
doctor and asked him to identify it.
The result was a big letdown. No drug. No magic.
Just a French mineral water that could be bought
anywhere. I immediately bought a case.
[Bartali goes on to describe how he would sneak into
Coppi's room just before the start of a stage and look
around - "operation wastebasket" - for mystery products.]
... Poor Fausto. He never understood how he aroused
all my Toscanerie, all my bitterness and aggressiveness."

[Quoted in Owen Mulholland's _Uphill Battle_]

So you see, it's not just the doping, but the mind games
about the doping, that are part of the hallowed tradition
of cycling.

Ben

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Donald Munro said:

Benjo Maso said:

I must have mentioned it in rbr. So it may be assumed that boys and
girls in the dope lab heard about it before. Or am I overrating their
competence?

The dope labs are using rbr for data mining ? I think its about time we
started charging for our services, if only to ensure the continued
existence of LIVEDRUNK (and delivery of the fabled LIVEDRUNK jerseys).

This means you, Ryan.

--
tanx,
Howard

Faberge eggs are elegant but I prefer Faberge bacon.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

In article <[email hidden]>,

Howard Kveck said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Donald Munro said:

Benjo Maso said:

I must have mentioned it in rbr. So it may be assumed that boys and
girls in the dope lab heard about it before. Or am I overrating their
competence?

The dope labs are using rbr for data mining ? I think its about time we
started charging for our services, if only to ensure the continued
existence of LIVEDRUNK (and delivery of the fabled LIVEDRUNK jerseys).

This means you, Ryan.

It's true. I've abandoned my responsibility to this dear cause.

The truth? My enthusiasm waned once my racing club arranged to do a wool
jersey order, and then I pretty much got lazy.

With the combination of demotivation, lack of time, and just the fact
that I'm pretty lazy and have more projects than a lazy man ought to,
I'm leaving the jersey project.

My main reason for saying so publicly is in the futile hope that someone
else is interested enough to take up the organization of the project.

If so, here's the company I was corresponding with:

http://www.portlandcyclewear.com/woolcyclingjersey.html

If you want an alternative to that, Louis Garneau now has a similar-spec
wool jersey available, and I can put you in touch with a rep. Their
minimum order isn't very high.

The logo should simply consist of an all-caps "LIVEDRUNK" rendered in a
sans-serif font, ideally Compugraphic's CG Gothic No. 2 for the LIVE and
CG Gothic No. 3 for the DRUNK.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070612200834AADg8jK

Here's an alternative, Geometr415 Lt BT:

http://forums.clantemplates.com/showthread.php?t=65923

So that's that, and I apologize to anyone who was still waiting for me
to stop sucking. I should have either taken care of this project or
given up sooner.

--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

Ryan Cousineau said:

It's true. I've abandoned my responsibility to this dear cause.

Can I get my money back?

* Donald Munro <[email hidden]> a écrit profondement:
|
| Kyle Legate wrote:
| > Can I get my money back?
|
| LIVEDRUNK's official currency is the Zimbabwean dollar.
|
|

Who pays the shipping?

1 US Dollar (USD) = 29,221.8 Zimbabwe Dollar (ZWD)

--
Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply

Kyle Legate said:

Can I get my money back?

LIVEDRUNK's official currency is the Zimbabwean dollar.

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Howard Kveck said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Frank Drackman said:

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Does anyone really care about the pro tour anymore ? Many of the
teams that were applying for pro tour status last year (eg
Barloworld) don't seem quite so keen now.

Maybe they saw how fair the UCI was to Unibet.

The ASO and other GT organizers were the ones keeping Unibet from racing - UCI
were unable to change that.

But they did not _try_. Unibet handed over a bunch of money
and got nothing for it. Worse than unfair, UCI defrauded Unibet.

--
Michael Press

In article <[email hidden]>,

Kyle Legate said:

Ryan Cousineau said:

It's true. I've abandoned my responsibility to this dear cause.

Can I get my money back?

Every penny.

--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

"Howard Kveck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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In article <[email hidden]>,

Frank Drackman said:

"Donald Munro" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Does anyone really care about the pro tour anymore ? Many of the
teams that were applying for pro tour status last year (eg
Barloworld) don't seem quite so keen now.

Maybe they saw how fair the UCI was to Unibet.

The ASO and other GT organizers were the ones keeping Unibet from
racing - UCI
were unable to change that.

--

Did the UCI return the money that THEY charged Unibet for the Pro Tour
license?

Benjo Maso said:

DynEpo isn't that new. Four or five years ago I heard already that some
riders were using DynEpo, although it was extremely expensive and only
available on the black market. I must have mentioned it in rbr. So it may be
assumed that boys and girls in the dope lab heard about it before. Or am I
overrating their competence?

The boys and girls in the dope lab know which competentcies count:
"Let's look at those Landis samples again"-- at what point, it has
occurred to me, did the supposedly "blind" testing protocols enable
just Floyd's samples to be tested again?. I know I must have this all
wrong... Well, the important thing is, they sure cleared up that messy
contaminated B sample problem. I think that's called "throw-down" in
some circles; very effective for making sure known criminals don't
escape on technicalities!

Perhaps this wonder of the black market-- supplying a product not yet
available commercially-- was a self-administered custodial (or rather,
-ian!) retirement package?

Actually, I think the field trial explanation is the most plausible. I
mean, if it works for Tour riders, it would have to be gangbusters in
the clinical setting, right? I mean, patients jumping out of bed to
ride their bikes home, and so forth? All intended to be very hush-
hush, of course! --D-y

In article <[email hidden]>,

Ryan Cousineau said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Kyle Legate said:

Ryan Cousineau said:

It's true. I've abandoned my responsibility to this dear cause.

Can I get my money back?

Every penny.

There goes our profit sharing.

--
tanx,
Howard

Faberge eggs are elegant but I prefer Faberge bacon.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

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Michael Press said:

In article
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com>,

Howard Kveck said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Frank Drackman said:

"Donald Munro" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

> Does anyone really care about the pro tour anymore ? Many of the
> teams that were applying for pro tour status last year (eg
> Barloworld) don't seem quite so keen now.
>

Maybe they saw how fair the UCI was to Unibet.

The ASO and other GT organizers were the ones keeping Unibet from racing
- UCI
were unable to change that.

But they did not _try_. Unibet handed over a bunch of money
and got nothing for it. Worse than unfair, UCI defrauded Unibet.

I can't argue with that.

--
tanx,
Howard

Faberge eggs are elegant but I prefer Faberge bacon.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

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Frank Drackman said:

"Howard Kveck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Frank Drackman said:

"Donald Munro" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

> Does anyone really care about the pro tour anymore ? Many of the
> teams that were applying for pro tour status last year (eg
> Barloworld) don't seem quite so keen now.
>

Maybe they saw how fair the UCI was to Unibet.

The ASO and other GT organizers were the ones keeping Unibet from
racing - UCI
were unable to change that.

--

Did the UCI return the money that THEY charged Unibet for the Pro Tour
license?

Like that was going to happen. McQuaid: "Ehh, things happen. It can't be helped."
Anyway, I'm not saying Unibet was done right by the UCI, just that they weren't the
main instigators of the [censored].

--
tanx,
Howard

Faberge eggs are elegant but I prefer Faberge bacon.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

Howard Kveck said:

Michael Press said:

But [Unibet] did not _try_.

I can't argue with that.

Pardon? They started several lawsuits for gaining access to races.

--
E. Dronkert

Michael Press said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Maybe they saw how fair the UCI was to Unibet.

Quoted message said:

The ASO and other GT organizers were the ones keeping Unibet from racing - UCI
were unable to change that.

But they did not _try_. Unibet handed over a bunch of money
and got nothing for it. Worse than unfair, UCI defrauded Unibet.

I'm shocked, shocked to hear! A bookie took a risk,
gave people money, and got nothing back.

Unibet (the name) still got some newspaper coverage.
Minor sponsors and the riders did get screwed.

Ben

Ryan Cousineau said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Howard Kveck said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
Donald Munro <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Benjo Maso wrote:
> I must have mentioned it in rbr. So it may be assumed that boys and
> girls in the dope lab heard about it before. Or am I overrating their
> competence?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The dope labs are using rbr for data mining ? I think its about time we
started charging for our services, if only to ensure the continued
existence of LIVEDRUNK (and delivery of the fabled LIVEDRUNK jerseys).

Quoted message said:

This means you, Ryan.

It's true. I've abandoned my responsibility to this dear cause.

The truth? My enthusiasm waned once my racing club arranged to do a wool
jersey order, and then I pretty much got lazy.

With the combination of demotivation, lack of time, and just the fact
that I'm pretty lazy and have more projects than a lazy man ought to,
I'm leaving the jersey project.

My main reason for saying so publicly is in the futile hope that someone
else is interested enough to take up the organization of the project.

If so, here's the company I was corresponding with:

http://www.portlandcyclewear.com/woolcyclingjersey.html

If you want an alternative to that, Louis Garneau now has a similar-spec
wool jersey available, and I can put you in touch with a rep. Their
minimum order isn't very high.

The logo should simply consist of an all-caps "LIVEDRUNK" rendered in a
sans-serif font, ideally Compugraphic's CG Gothic No. 2 for the LIVE and
CG Gothic No. 3 for the DRUNK.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070612200834AADg8jK

Here's an alternative, Geometr415 Lt BT:

http://forums.clantemplates.com/showthread.php?t=65923

So that's that, and I apologize to anyone who was still waiting for me
to stop sucking. I should have either taken care of this project or
given up sooner.

I could do something about it. Champ-Sys is making the jerseys for
the Tour of Hainan and has made a bunch of jerseys for the local bike
club and I'll very likely be seeing the Champ-Sys guy at this year's
Tour.

The RAGBRAI pictures of Lance had him wearing a LiveSTRONG jersey so I
think a LiveDRUNK jersey should be patterned on that ... only more of
a [censored] colored yellow. Also think that the lettering should in
addition to using the correct font be blurred just a little bit.

And what about adding some subliminal sublimated yellow on yellow beer
bottles and cigarettes to the pattern?

Marian said:

Ryan Cousineau said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
Howard Kveck <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
Donald Munro <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Benjo Maso wrote:
> > I must have mentioned it in rbr. So it may be assumed that boys and
> > girls in the dope lab heard about it before. Or am I overrating their
> > competence?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> The dope labs are using rbr for data mining ? I think its about time we
> started charging for our services, if only to ensure the continued
> existence of LIVEDRUNK (and delivery of the fabled LIVEDRUNK jerseys).

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

This means you, Ryan.

Quoted message said:

It's true. I've abandoned my responsibility to this dear cause.

Quoted message said:

The truth? My enthusiasm waned once my racing club arranged to do a wool
jersey order, and then I pretty much got lazy.

Quoted message said:

With the combination of demotivation, lack of time, and just the fact
that I'm pretty lazy and have more projects than a lazy man ought to,
I'm leaving the jersey project.

Quoted message said:

My main reason for saying so publicly is in the futile hope that someone
else is interested enough to take up the organization of the project.

Quoted message said:

If so, here's the company I was corresponding with:

Quoted message said:

http://www.portlandcyclewear.com/woolcyclingjersey.html

Quoted message said:

If you want an alternative to that, Louis Garneau now has a similar-spec
wool jersey available, and I can put you in touch with a rep. Their
minimum order isn't very high.

Quoted message said:

The logo should simply consist of an all-caps "LIVEDRUNK" rendered in a
sans-serif font, ideally Compugraphic's CG Gothic No. 2 for the LIVE and
CG Gothic No. 3 for the DRUNK.

Quoted message said:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070612200834AADg8jK

Quoted message said:

Here's an alternative, Geometr415 Lt BT:

Quoted message said:

http://forums.clantemplates.com/showthread.php?t=65923

Quoted message said:

So that's that, and I apologize to anyone who was still waiting for me
to stop sucking. I should have either taken care of this project or
given up sooner.

I could do something about it. Champ-Sys is making the jerseys for
the Tour of Hainan and has made a bunch of jerseys for the local bike
club and I'll very likely be seeing the Champ-Sys guy at this year's
Tour.

The RAGBRAI pictures of Lance had him wearing a LiveSTRONG jersey so I
think a LiveDRUNK jersey should be patterned on that ... only more of
a [censored] colored yellow. Also think that the lettering should in
addition to using the correct font be blurred just a little bit.

And what about adding some subliminal sublimated yellow on yellow beer
bottles and cigarettes to the pattern?

A caution: as always discussed previously, this was definitely going
to be a wool jersey (that may or may not be a problem for Champ-Sys;
Garneau doesn't even list a wool jersey in their catalog yet, but
they're doing them already), and doing a synthetic jersey may limit
the appeal (wool being so much more cyclocross-and-alcohol in its
aesthetic).

Morten Reippuert Knudsen said:

Yes. btw why didn't ASO anounce the names of the remaing 10 riders who
also testet positive for traces of Dynepo?

It was not cyclists. It was folks in athletics. ITF or whatever they
are called, are smart enough to shut up untill the evidence is in.