Durham student congestion

Colin Blackburn said:

would a part-time job cover the cost of a car needed for a
part-time job?

No, that's Mummy's responsibility.

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Colin Blackburn <[email hidden]> wrote:

: Student Union president Craig Jones said many students
: needed to use cars because they had part-time jobs outside
: the city.

A misquote I feel. Surely "because they are rich and need to
car to swan round in" ?

Not that I'm sterotyping Durham students or anything.

Arthur

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Colin Blackburn said:

Bikes are not mentioned despite two appearing in one of
the photos. Also, would a part-time job cover the cost of
a car needed for a part-time job?

What proportion of Durham students still live in colleges?
Do the colleges charge for parking spaces?

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Quoted message said:

Bikes are not mentioned despite two appearing in one of the
photos. Also, would a part-time job cover the cost of a car
needed for a part-time job?

When I was a peniless undergraduate there was no-way I could
of afforded to own, insure and run a car... Had to make use
of public transport or bike or lift from the rich kids who
owned a car becasue they were in work, studying part-time
because their employers were sending them to study and we
poor undergrads paid their petrol costs.

We poor full-time undergrads on tiny grants were the bottom
of the heap!

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Arthur Clune said:

Colin Blackburn <[email hidden]> wrote:

: Student Union president Craig Jones said many students
: needed to use
cars
: because they had part-time jobs outside the city.

A misquote I feel. Surely "because they are rich and need
to car to swan round in" ?

Not that I'm sterotyping Durham students or anything.

You don't need to, 50% of them make a perfectly good job of
it themselves.

Colin

Michael MacClancy said:

Colin Blackburn said:

Bikes are not mentioned despite two appearing in one of
the photos. Also, would a part-time job cover the cost of
a car needed for a part-time job?

What proportion of Durham students still live in colleges?
Do the colleges charge for parking spaces?

I'm not sure on any of these numbers. Most students are
required to spend one year in private accommodation so I
guess about 60%ish are in college.

This is the parking information from one college:

"Students who need a car for their studies (i.e. for
fieldwork, social work visits or getting to teaching
placements) can apply for a parking permit. Other students
can apply for a permit if there are any spaces remaining."

"If you live in private accommodation, you will also have to
apply to the college for permission to keep a car."

On another page it is stated that first year students will
not be considered for a permit (All 1st years live in
college, and all colleges are within walking distance of the
university and city.)

Colin

Quoted message said:

"If you live in private accommodation, you will also have
to apply to the college for permission to keep a car."

Almost like working for some kind of communist chinese
collective or something. I wonder if the students have to
apply for marriage licenses from the college too?

Mark Thompson said:

Quoted message said:

"If you live in private accommodation, you will also have
to apply to the college for permission to keep a car."

Almost like working for some kind of communist chinese
collective or something. I wonder if the students have to
apply for marriage licenses from the college too?

These sorts of restrictions are not uncommon at
universities. At Oxford a student needs permission to take
a part time job for instance, I expect this is the case at
other universities. Some universities also place limits on
the maximum distance from the university at which a
student can live when in private accommodation.
Universities have rules and to be a member one is required
to abide by those rules.

A probably apocryphal story has it that a student at York
(Arthur may be able to conform this) was sent down for
catching and eating a campus duck---there are a lot of them
about---as this is against university regulations.

Colin

Colin Blackburn <[email hidden]> wrote:

: A probably apocryphal story has it that a student at York
: (Arthur may be able to conform this) was sent down for
: catching and eating a campus duck---there are a lot of
: them about---as this is against university regulations.

It's true. The student who stabbed a porter was only
suspended for a term according to campus folklore.

Arthur

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Quoted message said:

Universities have rules and to be a member one is required
to abide by those rules.

My local library has rules too, but hasn't seen the need to
regulate in my private life.

Colin Blackburn said:

Bikes are not mentioned despite two appearing in one of
the photos. Also, would a part-time job cover the cost of
a car needed for a part-time job?

It'd depend on the part time job. You could run some cars on
between £500 and £1000 (1.5 diesel AX / 106 anyone?) for
year depending on how old you are (insurance) as long as you
keep the mileage down.

Doki said:

Colin Blackburn said:

Bikes are not mentioned despite two appearing in one of
the photos. Also, would a part-time job cover the cost of
a car needed for a part-time job?

It'd depend on the part time job. You could run some cars
on between £500 and £1000 (1.5 diesel AX / 106 anyone?)
for year depending on how old you are (insurance) as long
as you keep the mileage down.

You'd have to be doing zero miles to do it for 500 quid with
the cost of insurance for younger people.

I wonder how many of these students with cars moan about
their level of debt at the end of it all? I wonder how many
of us who went through university 20 years ago and didn't
have cars because we couldn't afford one and worked all the
long holidays really give all that much of a monkeys about
student debt?

[Well, to be slightly fairer we didn't pay fees, either.]

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Trevor Barton said:

Doki said:

Colin Blackburn said:

Bikes are not mentioned despite two appearing in one of
the photos. Also, would a part-time job cover the cost
of a car needed for a part-time job?

It'd depend on the part time job. You could run some cars
on between £500 and £1000 (1.5 diesel AX / 106 anyone?)
for year depending on how old you are (insurance) as long
as you keep the mileage down.

You'd have to be doing zero miles to do it for 500 quid
with the cost of insurance for younger people.

I wonder how many of these students with cars moan about
their level of debt at the end of it all? I wonder how
many of us who went through university 20 years ago and
didn't have cars because we couldn't afford one and worked
all the long holidays really give all that much of a
monkeys about student debt?

Eh, now when I were a lad .............

;-)

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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers <[email hidden]> wrote:

: afforded to run a car. As it is, I am very much against
: students paying fees - there's no way I'd have gone to
: study for a degree if I'd have been saddled with the debts
: they are now - I'm from a very basic working class family
: where debt such as they have now was to be avoided.

That's because we want to keep Universities free of those
annoying working class people and keep the middle classes in
enough debt that they don't get bolshy.

Arthur "Illuminatus" Clune

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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers <[email hidden]> wrote:

: afforded to run a car. As it is, I am very much against
: students paying fees - there's no way I'd have gone to
: study for a degree if I'd have been saddled with the debts
: they are now - I'm from a very basic working class family
: where debt such as they have now was to be avoided.

That's because we want to keep Universities free of those
annoying working class people and keep the middle classes in
enough debt that they don't get bolshy.

Arthur "Illuminatus" Clune

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Trevor Barton said:

Doki said:

Colin Blackburn said:

Bikes are not mentioned despite two appearing in one of
the photos. Also, would a part-time job cover the cost
of a car needed for a part-time job?

It'd depend on the part time job. You could run some cars
on between 500 and 1000 (1.5 diesel AX / 106 anyone?) for
year depending on how old you are (insurance) as long as
you keep the mileage down.

You'd have to be doing zero miles to do it for 500 quid
with the cost of insurance for younger people.

I got insured on my car for £500 for my second year of
driving, 1 years NCB. I've known people get AXs insured a
lot cheaper than I could get mine insured for my first year.

Trevor Barton said:

Doki said:

Colin Blackburn said:

Bikes are not mentioned despite two appearing in one of
the photos. Also, would a part-time job cover the cost
of a car needed for a part-time job?

It'd depend on the part time job. You could run some cars
on between 500 and 1000 (1.5 diesel AX / 106 anyone?) for
year depending on how old you are (insurance) as long as
you keep the mileage down.

You'd have to be doing zero miles to do it for 500 quid
with the cost of insurance for younger people.

I got insured on my car for £500 for my second year of
driving, 1 years NCB. I've known people get AXs insured a
lot cheaper than I could get mine insured for my first year.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Colin Blackburn said:

Bikes are not mentioned despite two appearing in one of
the photos. Also, would a part-time job cover the cost of
a car needed for a part-time job?

Hmmm. In my day, Durham was one of those places favoured by
students with almost-oxbridge aspirations, and well-reputed.
Perhaps they could get away with adopting a Cambridge model,
where students aren't allowed to run a car without applying
for and getting explicit permission.

Permission wasn't any problem to get for those who
tried. But most of us didn't want to, couldn't have
afforded it anyway, and were happy with a system that
discouraged car use.

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Quoted message said:

Colin Blackburn <[email hidden]> wrote:

: Student Union president Craig Jones said many students
: needed to use

cars

Quoted message said:

: because they had part-time jobs outside the city.

A misquote I feel. Surely "because they are rich and need
to car to swan round in" ?

Not that I'm sterotyping Durham students or anything.

I thought students are always moaning about how they never
have any money and all their grants are being cut. In my day
being a student usually meant being pretty skint, but
perhaps they are getting richer?