Durham student congestion

Colin Blackburn said:

would a part-time job cover the cost of a car needed for a
part-time job?

No, that's Mummy's responsibility.

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Colin Blackburn <[email hidden]> wrote:

: Student Union president Craig Jones said many students needed to use cars
: because they had part-time jobs outside the city.

A misquote I feel. Surely "because they are rich and need to car to
swan round in" ?

Not that I'm sterotyping Durham students or anything.

Arthur

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Arthur Clune said:

Colin Blackburn <[email hidden]> wrote:

: Student Union president Craig Jones said many students needed to use
cars
: because they had part-time jobs outside the city.

A misquote I feel. Surely "because they are rich and need to car to
swan round in" ?

Not that I'm sterotyping Durham students or anything.

You don't need to, 50% of them make a perfectly good job of it themselves.

Colin

Colin Blackburn said:

Bikes are not mentioned despite two appearing in one of the photos. Also,
would a part-time job cover the cost of a car needed for a part-time job?

What proportion of Durham students still live in colleges? Do the colleges
charge for parking spaces?

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Michael MacClancy said:

Colin Blackburn said:

Bikes are not mentioned despite two appearing in one of the photos.
Also,
would a part-time job cover the cost of a car needed for a part-time
job?

What proportion of Durham students still live in colleges? Do the
colleges
charge for parking spaces?

I'm not sure on any of these numbers. Most students are required to spend
one year in private accommodation so I guess about 60%ish are in college.

This is the parking information from one college:

"Students who need a car for their studies (i.e. for fieldwork, social
work visits or getting to teaching placements) can apply for a parking
permit. Other students can apply for a permit if there are any spaces
remaining."

"If you live in private accommodation, you will also have to apply to the
college for permission to keep a car."

On another page it is stated that first year students will not be
considered for a permit (All 1st years live in college, and all colleges
are within walking distance of the university and city.)

Colin

Quoted message said:

Bikes are not mentioned despite two appearing in one of the photos. Also,
would a part-time job cover the cost of a car needed for a part-time job?

When I was a peniless undergraduate there was no-way I could of afforded to
own, insure and run a car... Had to make use of public transport or bike or
lift from the rich kids who owned a car becasue they were in work, studying
part-time because their employers were sending them to study and we poor
undergrads paid their petrol costs.

We poor full-time undergrads on tiny grants were the bottom of the heap!

Cheers, helen s

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Quoted message said:

"If you live in private accommodation, you will also have to apply to
the college for permission to keep a car."

Almost like working for some kind of communist chinese collective or
something. I wonder if the students have to apply for marriage licenses
from the college too?

Mark Thompson said:

Quoted message said:

"If you live in private accommodation, you will also have to apply to
the college for permission to keep a car."

Almost like working for some kind of communist chinese collective or
something. I wonder if the students have to apply for marriage licenses
from the college too?

These sorts of restrictions are not uncommon at universities. At Oxford a
student needs permission to take a part time job for instance, I expect
this is the case at other universities. Some universities also place
limits on the maximum distance from the university at which a student can
live when in private accommodation. Universities have rules and to be a
member one is required to abide by those rules.

A probably apocryphal story has it that a student at York (Arthur may be
able to conform this) was sent down for catching and eating a campus
duck---there are a lot of them about---as this is against university
regulations.

Colin

Colin Blackburn <[email hidden]> wrote:

: A probably apocryphal story has it that a student at York (Arthur may be
: able to conform this) was sent down for catching and eating a campus
: duck---there are a lot of them about---as this is against university
: regulations.

It's true. The student who stabbed a porter was only suspended for a term
according to campus folklore.

Arthur

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Quoted message said:

Universities have rules and to be a member one is required to abide
by those rules.

My local library has rules too, but hasn't seen the need to regulate in my
private life.

Quoted message said:

It's true. The student who stabbed a porter was only suspended for a term
according to campus folklore.

Arthur

The UEA campus in Norwich has a lot of rabbits running about it. I wonder how
many end up as rabbit stew in the halls of residence??? Hmm.. the lake there
has a lot of fish in it with carp over 20lbs and pike too. Seems the sort of
place Hugh Fernsley-Eatitall would feel at home in :-)

Cheers, helen s

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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers said:

Quoted message said:

It's true. The student who stabbed a porter was only suspended for a
term according to campus folklore.

Arthur

The UEA campus in Norwich has a lot of rabbits running about it. I
wonder how many end up as rabbit stew in the halls of residence???
Hmm.. the lake there has a lot of fish in it with carp over 20lbs and
pike too. Seems the sort of place Hugh Fernsley-Eatitall would feel
at home in :-)

I've certainly had the same thought when visiting mates at UEA. I reckon you
could live there for free if you could stop the other people in your flat
[censored] about you hanging game in the kitchen 🙂. The fact is that the
majority of students are mawkish buggers and you'd never hear the end of it
if you cooked up some rabbit in the kitchen. Most people don't even seem to
realise that meat coems from real live animals...

Colin Blackburn said:

Bikes are not mentioned despite two appearing in one of the photos.
Also, would a part-time job cover the cost of a car needed for a
part-time job?

It'd depend on the part time job. You could run some cars on between £500
and £1000 (1.5 diesel AX / 106 anyone?) for year depending on how old you
are (insurance) as long as you keep the mileage down.

Doki said:

Colin Blackburn said:

Bikes are not mentioned despite two appearing in one of the photos.
Also, would a part-time job cover the cost of a car needed for a
part-time job?

It'd depend on the part time job. You could run some cars on between £500
and £1000 (1.5 diesel AX / 106 anyone?) for year depending on how old you
are (insurance) as long as you keep the mileage down.

You'd have to be doing zero miles to do it for 500 quid with the cost of
insurance for younger people.

I wonder how many of these students with cars moan about their level of
debt at the end of it all? I wonder how many of us who went through
university 20 years ago and didn't have cars because we couldn't afford
one and worked all the long holidays really give all that much of a
monkeys about student debt?

[Well, to be slightly fairer we didn't pay fees, either.]

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Trevor Barton said:

Doki said:

Colin Blackburn said:

Bikes are not mentioned despite two appearing in one of the photos.
Also, would a part-time job cover the cost of a car needed for a
part-time job?

It'd depend on the part time job. You could run some cars on between £500
and £1000 (1.5 diesel AX / 106 anyone?) for year depending on how old you
are (insurance) as long as you keep the mileage down.

You'd have to be doing zero miles to do it for 500 quid with the cost of
insurance for younger people.

I wonder how many of these students with cars moan about their level of
debt at the end of it all? I wonder how many of us who went through
university 20 years ago and didn't have cars because we couldn't afford
one and worked all the long holidays really give all that much of a
monkeys about student debt?

Eh, now when I were a lad .............

;-)

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Colin Blackburn said:

Bikes are not mentioned despite two appearing in one of the photos. Also,
would a part-time job cover the cost of a car needed for a part-time job?

Hmmm. In my day, Durham was one of those places favoured by students
with almost-oxbridge aspirations, and well-reputed. Perhaps they could
get away with adopting a Cambridge model, where students aren't allowed
to run a car without applying for and getting explicit permission.

Permission wasn't any problem to get for those who tried. But most of
us didn't want to, couldn't have afforded it anyway, and were happy
with a system that discouraged car use.

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Quoted message said:

I wonder how many of us who went through
university 20 years ago and didn't have cars because we couldn't afford
one and worked all the long holidays really give all that much of a
monkeys about student debt?

[Well, to be slightly fairer we didn't pay fees, either.]

When I was a lass studying for my degree, I worked full-time in the summer hols
and during term times I had various Saturday jobs to supplement the meagre
grant I qualified for out of which I had to pay living expenses to my parents
(I went to the local place). Even with that there was no way I could of
afforded to run a car. As it is, I am very much against students paying fees -
there's no way I'd have gone to study for a degree if I'd have been saddled
with the debts they are now - I'm from a very basic working class family where
debt such as they have now was to be avoided.

Cheers, helen s

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Trevor Barton said:

Doki said:

Colin Blackburn said:

Bikes are not mentioned despite two appearing in one of the photos.
Also, would a part-time job cover the cost of a car needed for a
part-time job?

It'd depend on the part time job. You could run some cars on between
500 and 1000 (1.5 diesel AX / 106 anyone?) for year depending on how
old you are (insurance) as long as you keep the mileage down.

You'd have to be doing zero miles to do it for 500 quid with the cost
of insurance for younger people.

I got insured on my car for £500 for my second year of driving, 1 years NCB.
I've known people get AXs insured a lot cheaper than I could get mine
insured for my first year.

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A probably apocryphal story has it that a student at York (Arthur may
be able to conform this) was sent down for catching and eating a
campus duck---there are a lot of them about---as this is against
university regulations.

I have heard that story independently from a York academic, if that's
any corroboration.

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