Dumbell Deadlift

"The Crow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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If you don't have a trap bar, and don't have a squat rack, do you reckon
the dumbell deadlift is about the safest way to blast the legs? Surely
better than the barbell version isn't it?

Not better than the barbell version but it is a good variation. Don't
forget farmers walks and lunges as well.

The Crow said:

If you don't have a trap bar, and don't have a squat rack, do you reckon the
dumbell deadlift is about the safest way to blast the legs? Surely better
than the barbell version isn't it?

Front squats, overhead squats.

The Crow said:

If you don't have a trap bar, and don't have a squat rack, do you reckon the
dumbell deadlift is about the safest way to blast the legs? Surely better
than the barbell version isn't it?

Single leg squats w. dumbells.

DB deads are nice, but where do you get heavy enough dumbells?
Anyplace with those will have the squat rack etc.

- bc

"The Crow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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If you don't have a trap bar, and don't have a squat rack, do you
reckon the dumbell deadlift is about the safest way to blast the legs?
Surely better than the barbell version isn't it?

You don't need a rack to deadlift, just a safe place to put the weight
down, e.g., a 6' x 4' x 3/4" rubber mat.

Dumbbell deadlifts and trap bar deadlifts seem to be somewhere between a
normal SQ and a normal DL, so in that sense, if you find SQ is better to
"blast" the legs (as most people do), then the dumbbell DL is probably
better for you than barbell version. This is what I've heard - no
personal experience with trap bar or dumbbell deadlifts, although I
regularly do one-legged, two-kettlebell deadlifts but find them much
more "blast" for my glutes than for my legs.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

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"The Crow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

If you don't have a trap bar, and don't have a squat rack, do you
reckon the dumbell deadlift is about the safest way to blast the legs?
Surely better than the barbell version isn't it?

You don't need a rack to deadlift, just a safe place to put the weight
down, e.g., a 6' x 4' x 3/4" rubber mat.

Dumbbell deadlifts and trap bar deadlifts seem to be somewhere
between a normal SQ and a normal DL, so in that sense, if you find
SQ is better to "blast" the legs (as most people do), then the
dumbbell DL is probably better for you than barbell version. This
is what I've heard - no personal experience with trap bar or
dumbbell deadlifts, although I regularly do one-legged,
two-kettlebell deadlifts but find them much more "blast" for my
glutes than for my legs.

When I first started lifting weights (about 2 years ago), I didn't
have anything but a bench with a leg extension whatsit, some standard
plates, and a pair of standard dumbbell handles. Basically I had read
that you could get a decent workout with just a bench and some
dumbbells, and I decided to run with that. I figured that it would be
better to start, even with imperfect equipment, than to do nothing
while I saved up for the perfect equipment.

The problem, of course, was how to work my legs. Originally I thought
that was what the leg extension whatsit was for, but the more I read
the more I realized that few people considered leg extensions and leg
curls to be good replacements for squats and or deadlifts. Now that I
have more experience I agree completely. There are dumbbell
variations on the front squat and deadlift, but in the squat you are
limited by the amount of weight you can clean (and with two dumbbells
this is even more difficult than standard front squats without a
rack).

The dumbbell deadlift was even worse. In order to get enough weight
on the dumbbells so that it was a challenge to deadlift them I had to
use 25lb standard plates. The challenge quickly became keeping these
extra wide dumbbells away from my shins. This made my deadlifts
either extra wide sumo lifts, or more of a straight leg deadlift if I
kept my legs in a narrower stance.

The good news is that another trip to Walmart turned up a cheap
standard bar that solved my deadlift problems completely and made
front squats without a rack much more effective as well. One of these
days I am going to get me a rack and an Olympic bar and weights. I
keep hoping that I'll be able to bend my cheap standard bar first 🙂.

Jason

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The Crow said:

If you don't have a trap bar, and don't have a squat rack, do you reckon
the
dumbell deadlift is about the safest way to blast the legs? Surely
better
than the barbell version isn't it?

Single leg squats w. dumbells.

DB deads are nice, but where do you get heavy enough dumbells?
Anyplace with those will have the squat rack etc.

- bc

Well, that depends on how strong you are. My gym has a set of 155 pound
dumbbells, so that should be just find for DL except for the super strong
people. No squat rack, unless you want to count the Smith machine.

Gooserider said:

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The Crow said:

If you don't have a trap bar, and don't have a squat rack, do you reckon
the
dumbell deadlift is about the safest way to blast the legs? Surely
better
than the barbell version isn't it?

Single leg squats w. dumbells.

DB deads are nice, but where do you get heavy enough dumbells?
Anyplace with those will have the squat rack etc.

- bc

Well, that depends on how strong you are. My gym has a set of 155 pound
dumbbells, so that should be just find for DL except for the super strong
people. No squat rack, unless you want to count the Smith machine.

Wow. 155 db's and no squat rack? They must think people only work
upper body. Maybe you could ask them about getting a squat rack?

- bc

bc said:

Gooserider said:

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The Crow wrote:
> If you don't have a trap bar, and don't have a squat rack, do you reckon
> the
> dumbell deadlift is about the safest way to blast the legs? Surely
> better
> than the barbell version isn't it?

Single leg squats w. dumbells.

DB deads are nice, but where do you get heavy enough dumbells?
Anyplace with those will have the squat rack etc.

- bc

Well, that depends on how strong you are. My gym has a set of 155
pound dumbbells, so that should be just find for DL except for the
super strong people. No squat rack, unless you want to count the
Smith machine.

Wow. 155 db's and no squat rack? They must think people only work
upper body. Maybe you could ask them about getting a squat rack?

- bc

I recently joined the community rec center around these parts and the
"gym" there is a mirror image of the poster's gym. There are 155lb
dumbbells and nary a barbell in the building that isn't connected to a
Smith machine.

I joined for the pool, I already have a home gym better than what is
being offered there.

As for 155lbs being enough for a dumbbell deadlift, I beg to differ.
I haven't been lifting very long (and I certainly haven't been
deadlifting very long), but I still can lift over 310lbs for reps.
Unless the gym is free you can do better by spending $150 on an
Olympic weight set at your local sporting goods store.

Jason

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bc said:

Gooserider said:

"bc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>
> The Crow wrote:
>> If you don't have a trap bar, and don't have a squat rack, do you
>> reckon
>> the
>> dumbell deadlift is about the safest way to blast the legs?
>> Surely
>> better
>> than the barbell version isn't it?
>
> Single leg squats w. dumbells.
>
> DB deads are nice, but where do you get heavy enough dumbells?
> Anyplace with those will have the squat rack etc.
>
> - bc

Well, that depends on how strong you are. My gym has a set of 155
pound dumbbells, so that should be just find for DL except for the
super strong people. No squat rack, unless you want to count the
Smith machine.

Wow. 155 db's and no squat rack? They must think people only work
upper body. Maybe you could ask them about getting a squat rack?

- bc

I recently joined the community rec center around these parts and the
"gym" there is a mirror image of the poster's gym. There are 155lb
dumbbells and nary a barbell in the building that isn't connected to a
Smith machine.

I joined for the pool, I already have a home gym better than what is
being offered there.

As for 155lbs being enough for a dumbbell deadlift, I beg to differ.
I haven't been lifting very long (and I certainly haven't been
deadlifting very long), but I still can lift over 310lbs for reps.
Unless the gym is free you can do better by spending $150 on an
Olympic weight set at your local sporting goods store.

Some gyms lack equipment only because no one ever asked for it. I'd ask
for what you want and see if they'll get it. We got a squat rack, and
really heavy duty one at that, at the YMCA in town just because I asked
if they'd get it. Had to wait until the next budget cycle but they did
buy the rack and seemed happy to do it.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

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Jason

Steve Freides said:

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bc said:

Gooserider wrote:
> "bc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> >
> > The Crow wrote:
> >> If you don't have a trap bar, and don't have a squat rack, do you
> >> reckon
> >> the
> >> dumbell deadlift is about the safest way to blast the legs?
> >> Surely
> >> better
> >> than the barbell version isn't it?
> >
> > Single leg squats w. dumbells.
> >
> > DB deads are nice, but where do you get heavy enough dumbells?
> > Anyplace with those will have the squat rack etc.
> >
> > - bc
>
> Well, that depends on how strong you are. My gym has a set of 155
> pound dumbbells, so that should be just find for DL except for
> the super strong people. No squat rack, unless you want to count
> the Smith machine.

Wow. 155 db's and no squat rack? They must think people only
work upper body. Maybe you could ask them about getting a squat
rack?

- bc

I recently joined the community rec center around these parts and
the "gym" there is a mirror image of the poster's gym. There are
155lb dumbbells and nary a barbell in the building that isn't
connected to a Smith machine.

I joined for the pool, I already have a home gym better than what
is being offered there.

As for 155lbs being enough for a dumbbell deadlift, I beg to
differ. I haven't been lifting very long (and I certainly haven't
been deadlifting very long), but I still can lift over 310lbs for
reps. Unless the gym is free you can do better by spending $150 on
an Olympic weight set at your local sporting goods store.

Some gyms lack equipment only because no one ever asked for it. I'd
ask for what you want and see if they'll get it. We got a squat
rack, and really heavy duty one at that, at the YMCA in town just
because I asked if they'd get it. Had to wait until the next budget
cycle but they did buy the rack and seemed happy to do it.

That's a good point. It never hurts to ask. I really would like to
lift there too, as the people that run the center seem very cool. The
pool is very nice, and they actually have an indoor shooting range to
boot. If I can talk the rec center into purchasing a power rack then
I can maybe purchase myself the .387 revolver Will suggested and get a
concealed carry license (they teach the requisite class) instead of
simply upgrading my own home gym 🙂.

The problem is that I don't know if they have the space. The whole
weight area is not that big, and I doubt that they would move out a
Smith machine and replace it with a power rack. Doesn't hurt to ask.

Jason

"Jason Earl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"bc" <[email hidden]> writes:

> Gooserider wrote:
>> "bc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>> >
>> > The Crow wrote:
>> >> If you don't have a trap bar, and don't have a squat rack, do
>> >> you
>> >> reckon
>> >> the
>> >> dumbell deadlift is about the safest way to blast the legs?
>> >> Surely
>> >> better
>> >> than the barbell version isn't it?
>> >
>> > Single leg squats w. dumbells.
>> >
>> > DB deads are nice, but where do you get heavy enough dumbells?
>> > Anyplace with those will have the squat rack etc.
>> >
>> > - bc
>>
>> Well, that depends on how strong you are. My gym has a set of 155
>> pound dumbbells, so that should be just find for DL except for
>> the super strong people. No squat rack, unless you want to count
>> the Smith machine.
>
> Wow. 155 db's and no squat rack? They must think people only
> work upper body. Maybe you could ask them about getting a squat
> rack?
>
> - bc

I recently joined the community rec center around these parts and
the "gym" there is a mirror image of the poster's gym. There are
155lb dumbbells and nary a barbell in the building that isn't
connected to a Smith machine.

I joined for the pool, I already have a home gym better than what
is being offered there.

As for 155lbs being enough for a dumbbell deadlift, I beg to
differ. I haven't been lifting very long (and I certainly haven't
been deadlifting very long), but I still can lift over 310lbs for
reps. Unless the gym is free you can do better by spending $150 on
an Olympic weight set at your local sporting goods store.

Some gyms lack equipment only because no one ever asked for it. I'd
ask for what you want and see if they'll get it. We got a squat
rack, and really heavy duty one at that, at the YMCA in town just
because I asked if they'd get it. Had to wait until the next budget
cycle but they did buy the rack and seemed happy to do it.

That's a good point. It never hurts to ask. I really would like to
lift there too, as the people that run the center seem very cool. The
pool is very nice, and they actually have an indoor shooting range to
boot. If I can talk the rec center into purchasing a power rack then
I can maybe purchase myself the .387 revolver Will suggested and get a
concealed carry license (they teach the requisite class) instead of
simply upgrading my own home gym 🙂.

The problem is that I don't know if they have the space. The whole
weight area is not that big, and I doubt that they would move out a
Smith machine and replace it with a power rack. Doesn't hurt to ask.

Space is sometimes an issue. At my suggestion, they removed a "gun
style" - I think that's what you call it - squat rack that people could
walk out from to make room for the real power rack. A few people still
tell me they think it was a bad decision, but those people all squat
barbie weights to quarter-squat depth, anyway. The hooks can be moved
to the outside of the rack and they [censored] and moan because they have to
move them.

My Y's rack purchase was part of a repaint/rearrange of the entire area
so it wasn't too hard to make the space at that time. Most gyms do
this sort of thing at least once a year from what I understand.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

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Jason