Sarcasm? Jacky was one of the great unsung heros of cycling who preferred to win big or lose big. He was Bernard Hinault without the ability but all of the heart.
We're talking about the same guy who was known within the peloton for getting dropped on the way to the main climb, and then mysteriously catching up on said climb, despite not having great abilities in that area? The same guy people would play tricks on by greasing the parts of a car that one might try to grab?
That guy???
He got a *lot* of media coverage for his heroic solo breakaways, most of which failed (but still great for sponsors). But don't know that he had the respect of his peers for some of the other things he'd do.
he managed to win 2 classics; that's more than superstar Stuart O'Grady.
he managed to win 2 classics; that's more than superstar Stuart O'Grady.
now that is sounding like sour grapes. one might conclude you are simply po'd that a true Euro didn't win P-R (really, the race was ruined b/c everyone was just watching Boonen)
he managed to win 2 classics; that's more than superstar Stuart O'Grady.
now that is sounding like sour grapes. one might conclude you are simply po'd that a true Euro didn't win P-R (really, the race was ruined b/c everyone was just watching Boonen)
Not at all. I'm just trying to put O'grady's career in the right perspective for all these cheering english speeking fans.
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he managed to win 2 classics; that's more than superstar Stuart O'Grady.
now that is sounding like sour grapes. one might conclude you are simply po'd that a true Euro didn't win P-R (really, the race was ruined b/c everyone was just watching Boonen)
Not at all. I'm just trying to put O'grady's career in the right perspective for all these cheering english speeking fans.
He got a *lot* of media coverage for his heroic solo breakaways, most of which failed (but still great for sponsors). But don't know that he had the respect of his peers for some of the other things he'd do.
he managed to win 2 classics; that's more than superstar Stuart O'Grady.
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>> Two words - Jacky Durand!
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> Is that sarcasm?
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Sarcasm? Jacky was one of the great unsung heros of cycling who preferred to win big or lose big. He was Bernard Hinault without the ability but all of the heart.
We're talking about the same guy who was known within the peloton for getting dropped on the way to the main climb, and then mysteriously catching up on said climb, despite not having great abilities in that area? The same guy people would play tricks on by greasing the parts of a car that one might try to grab?
That guy???
He got a *lot* of media coverage for his heroic solo breakaways, most of which failed (but still great for sponsors). But don't know that he had the respect of his peers for some of the other things he'd do.
he managed to win 2 classics; that's more than superstar Stuart O'Grady.
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he managed to win 2 classics; that's more than superstar Stuart O'Grady.
now that is sounding like sour grapes. one might conclude you are simply po'd that a true Euro didn't win P-R (really, the race was ruined b/c everyone was just watching Boonen)
Not at all. I'm just trying to put O'grady's career in the right perspective for all these cheering english speeking fans.
Strange you didn't try to put Servais Knaven, Frederic Guesdon or Roger Rosiers's in perspective.
Sarcasm? Jacky was one of the great unsung heros of cycling who preferred to win big or lose big. He was Bernard Hinault without the ability but all of the heart.
We're talking about the same guy who was known within the peloton for getting dropped on the way to the main climb, and then mysteriously catching up on said climb, despite not having great abilities in that area? The same guy people would play tricks on by greasing the parts of a car that one might try to grab?
That guy???
He got a *lot* of media coverage for his heroic solo breakaways, most of which failed (but still great for sponsors). But don't know that he had the respect of his peers for some of the other things he'd do.
Mike, do you know anything about European racing? Do you know how Cippolini finished a lot of races in first place after hanging on to team cars over a lot of climbs?
Jackie spent a lot of long hours off of the front with TV cameras on him the entire time. He wasn't hanging onto any team cars then. And the next day he would attack again. The guy was heroic not superhuman.
He got a *lot* of media coverage for his heroic solo breakaways, most of which failed (but still great for sponsors). But don't know that he had the respect of his peers for some of the other things he'd do.
Mike, do you know anything about European racing? Do you know how Cippolini finished a lot of races in first place after hanging on to team cars over a lot of climbs?
Jackie spent a lot of long hours off of the front with TV cameras on him the entire time. He wasn't hanging onto any team cars then. And the next day he would attack again. The guy was heroic not superhuman.
So cheating is OK? Are there limits? I mean, limits aside from not being seen by the officials such that you're disqualified?
Does *everybody* cheat?
(But yeah, I kinda know a thing or two or three about European racing)
> he managed to win 2 classics; that's more than superstar Stuart > O'Grady.
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now that is sounding like sour grapes. one might conclude you are simply po'd that a true Euro didn't win P-R (really, the race was ruined b/c everyone was just watching Boonen)
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Not at all. I'm just trying to put O'grady's career in the right perspective for all these cheering english speeking fans.
Strange you didn't try to put Servais Knaven, Frederic Guesdon or Roger Rosiers's in perspective.
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On 18 apr, 15:07, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]> wrote: > On Apr 18, 7:03 am, Kenny <[email hidden]> wrote:
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> > he managed to win 2 classics; that's more than superstar Stuart > > O'Grady.
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> now that is sounding like sour grapes. one might conclude you are > simply po'd that a true Euro didn't win P-R (really, the race was > ruined b/c everyone was just watching Boonen)
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Not at all. I'm just trying to put O'grady's career in the right perspective for all these cheering english speeking fans.
Strange you didn't try to put Servais Knaven, Frederic Guesdon or Roger Rosiers's in perspective.
