Dual Wheelset for CAAD4 mtn frame

In article <DyEmc.44289$kh4.2351169@attbi_s52>,

Stuart Harden said:

I have a Cannondale F700 with Spinergy Xyclone disc wheel-
set and XTR crank-set (XT rear derailleur).

My thought is to add a 700c road-tire wheel-set with to
this system and am eager to learn if the SHIMANO HG-50 9SP
CASSETTE can attach to a 700c wheel applicable to this
CAAD4 frame thus preserving the gear ration and chain
fittings.

700c (road; ISO 622) wheels won't fit your F700. It's a
mountain bike, and takes 26" (MTB; ISO 559) wheels.

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If you were desperate to do so, you could probably get a
622 wheel on the front by switching to a road fork.
Normally this would be a major handling disaster, since the
road wheel is rather bigger than an MTB wheel, but because
your bike has a front suspension fork, an unsuspended road
fork and wheel would probably keep the geometry somewhat
close to the original. But it would be really stupid,
potentially sketchy, and functionally pointless. It might
be the starting point for a pretty amusing chopper, but
expensive Al XC MTBs are not a good starting point for that
sort of thing.

Quoted message said:

Any ideas?

use slick tires, which will make your bike much faster on
the road without compromising its geometry. If your taste
for speed still isn't satisfied, buy a road bike. But
really, just get the slick tires.

On the off chance that what you want to do is use your gears
on a road wheel for some other bike, that's easily doable.
Virtually every Shimano 8 or 9 speed hub is compatible with
virtually every other Shimano 8 or 9 speed hub. The only
reason some cassettes are designated "road" or "mountain" is
the suitability of the gears for a particular application.

Quoted message said:

Stuart

I have a memory of the CDale Bad Boy coming with the
aforementioned wheelsets, but have found little evidence
to that effect...

That is because it wouldn't work.

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The Bad Boy was a rigid MTB frame equipped with MTB (26";
ISO 559) wheels running Hutchinson Top Slick 26 x 1.0"
tires. That's a very narrow treadless tire, and looks
exactly like a moderate-to-racy road tire except for the
smaller overall diameter. If the 1.0" really does mean a
nominal width of about 25.4 mm, that would equate to the
fattest tire most road racers would admit to using, or the
skinniest tire most road bike tourists or commuters would be
happy using. Being contrarian and improvisational, I have 20
mm tires on my commuter and 25 mm tires on my race bike. I
should really do something about that.

The Bad Boy rims are conventional 32-hole mountain bike
rims. I don't know the Mavic X139, and don't care to look it
up, so I don't know if that's a tough rim or a relatively
lightweight rim.

You could run those Top Slick tires on your bike (on any
reasonably narrow rims) and they would do what you seem to
want. With the goofy Spinergy wheels, you'd have a pretty
wild-looking urban bike.

I'll show you all once I build my 7-speed Factory
Kuwahara BMX,
--
Ryan Cousineau, [email hidden]
sfu.cawiredcolaOpen ↗ President, Fabrizio
Mazzoleni Fan Club

A 700x23 tire should fit fine. What width tire are you
thinking of using? Measure the outer diameter. Or just find
one and install it to see if there is clearance for the
tire. I just looked at my CDale mtbike and a road wheel
fits. Of course you will need one with disk brakes. Some
cyclocross bikes now come with disk brakes so you might find
some there or you might need custom wheels.

Bruce

"Stuart Harden" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I have a Cannondale F700 with Spinergy Xyclone disc wheel-
set and XTR crank-set (XT rear derailleur).

My thought is to add a 700c road-tire wheel-set with to
this system and am eager to learn if the SHIMANO HG-50 9SP
CASSETTE can attach to a 700c

wheel

Quoted message said:

applicable to this CAAD4 frame thus preserving the gear
ration and chain fittings.

Any ideas?

Stuart

I have a memory of the CDale Bad Boy coming with the
aforementioned wheelsets, but have found little evidence
to that effect...

On Thu, 06 May 2004 22:43:33 -0700, Ryan Cousineau <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

If you were desperate to do so, you could probably get a
622 wheel on the front by switching to a road fork.
Normally this would be a major handling disaster, since the
road wheel is rather bigger than an MTB wheel, but because
your bike has a front suspension fork, an unsuspended road
fork and wheel would probably keep the geometry somewhat
close to the original. But it would be really stupid,
potentially sketchy, and functionally pointless. It might
be the starting point for a pretty amusing chopper, but
expensive Al XC MTBs are not a good starting point for that
sort of thing.

Used Cannondale road frames are an exceptional value. For
<$350. You can find both CAAD4 and CAAD5 frame/fork for
those prices. My CAAD5 didn't get a bid of $385 on Ebay in 2
listings and it is almost perfect. I'd expect to get <$300
for the CAAD4. New Optimo frames can be bought for $650 and
I saw a dealer on Ebay selling for $500.

Built up bikes sell for $650 regularly.

Stuart Harden said:

I have a Cannondale F700 with Spinergy Xyclone disc wheel-
set and XTR crank-set (XT rear derailleur).

My thought is to add a 700c road-tire wheel-set with to
this system and am eager to learn if the SHIMANO HG-50 9SP
CASSETTE can attach to a 700c wheel applicable to this
CAAD4 frame thus preserving the gear ration and chain
fittings.

Any ideas?

Stuart

I have a memory of the CDale Bad Boy coming with the
aforementioned wheelsets, but have found little evidence
to that effect...

This will work as long as you are currently using a 9 speed
cassette and you are using disc brakes (or plan to). You
will most likely need to have a set of wheels custom built.

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Paul Kopit said:

Ryan Cousineau said:

If you were desperate to do so, you could probably get a
622 wheel on the front by switching to a road fork.
Normally this would be a major handling disaster, since
the road wheel is rather bigger than an MTB wheel, but
because your bike has a front suspension fork, an
unsuspended road fork and wheel would probably keep the
geometry somewhat close to the original. But it would be
really stupid, potentially sketchy, and functionally
pointless. It might be the starting point for a pretty
amusing chopper, but expensive Al XC MTBs are not a good
starting point for that sort of thing.

Used Cannondale road frames are an exceptional value. For
<$350. You can find both CAAD4 and CAAD5 frame/fork for
those prices. My CAAD5 didn't get a bid of $385 on Ebay in
2 listings and it is almost perfect. I'd expect to get
<$300 for the CAAD4. New Optimo frames can be bought for
$650 and I saw a dealer on Ebay selling for $500.

Built up bikes sell for $650 regularly.

Like I said, expensive Al XC MTBs 🙂. I paid C$400 for my
XT-equipped Kona Kilauea. Expensive is clearly relative.

I lust after a bike with a Lefty,
--
Ryan Cousineau, [email hidden]
sfu.cawiredcolaOpen ↗ President, Fabrizio
Mazzoleni Fan Club

Quoted message said:

700c (road; ISO 622) wheels won't fit your F700. It's a
mountain bike, and takes 26" (MTB; ISO 559) wheels.

As others have pointed out, road wheels fit fine in an MTB
as long as you're using disc brakes. 622 and 559 are the rim
widths, and the actual wheel+tire sizes are somewhat close.
My MTB wheel is actually larger in overall circumference
than my road wheel (26x2.4 vs. 700x23)

Original poster, make sure that you lace your wheels with a
3-cross, or if you're heavier, 4-cross pattern. Although it
may seem obvious, I wanted to make sure, as some don't know.
Also, make sure your axle is spaced for 135mm dropouts.

--
Phil, Squid-in-Training

ZeeExSixAre said:

Original poster, make sure that you lace your wheels with a
3-cross, or if you're heavier, 4-cross pattern.

Why?

In article <[email hidden]>,

ZeeExSixAre said:

Quoted message said:

700c (road; ISO 622) wheels won't fit your F700. It's a
mountain bike, and takes 26" (MTB; ISO 559) wheels.

As others have pointed out, road wheels fit fine in an MTB
as long as you're using disc brakes. 622 and 559 are the
rim widths, and the actual wheel+tire sizes are somewhat
close. My MTB wheel is actually larger in overall
circumference than my road wheel (26x2.4 vs. 700x23)

Original poster, make sure that you lace your wheels with
a 3-cross, or if you're heavier, 4-cross pattern. Although
it may seem obvious, I wanted to make sure, as some don't
know. Also, make sure your axle is spaced for 135mm
dropouts.

Lesson learned... I'll keep that in mind next time I open
my big mouth
🙂.

--
Ryan Cousineau, [email hidden]
sfu.cawiredcolaOpen ↗ President, Fabrizio
Mazzoleni Fan Club