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  1. A few people have mentioned the dangers of bike lanes that go opposite directions and are on each
    side of streets that are one-way for motor traffic. About a dozen years ago, some geniuses with the
    city and university in Eugene installed such a setup, that seems like a shooting gallery, with
    bikers being the ducks. It's 5 blocks long and the motor lane is very narrow and heavily traveled.
    It's a crazy experience to ride the lane that has cars coming the other way, just a few feet to your
    left. Unlike same-direction drivers, those coming at you headon, have a greatly reduced time to see
    you and react properly. The worst part is that there's 4 street entries in this stretch, where cars
    cross in front of bikers. Since the motor traffic is one-way, many drivers think to look only to the
    right before they cross and ignore the possibility that a biker may be coming from their left. If
    you ride in this lane and don't assume that crossing drivers will run over you, unless you take
    defensive action, your next ride may be on that Westbound Train.

    How many such bicycle traps exist in other cities and how do they come into existence? How many
    bikers would have to die on them, before they would be changed? I no longer use this
    reverse-direction lane, even though I have to make a detour up a hill and ride on sidewalks to
    safely avoid it. It's also at one end of a popular, on-street bike route, so many riders are
    drawn into using it. I recommend against riding on this type of bike lane, as you never know
    when some distracted driver will swerve a few feet over and get you. I guess that at least you
    would see the end coming for a moment, unlike riders that are whacked from behind.
    Newly-arrived freshmen student bikers would be most at risk here, like young cats having their
    first (and some their last) experience crossing a busy street. I suspect that those riders who
    express a preference for on-street lanes, rather than separate bikepaths, must belong to a
    different species than I.

    Steve McDonald

  2. "Steve McDonald" wrote

    Quoted message said:

    <snip long rant about badly designed bike lanes>


    ... I suspect that

    Quoted message said:

    those riders who express a preference for on-street lanes, rather than separate bikepaths, must
    belong to a different species than I.

    Steve McDonald

    I think most of us are expressing a preference for *well designed* on street bike lanes, not the
    death traps you described. There are several wrong way bike lanes in my area, I ignore them and
    travel on the roadway. Fortunately the law in my state lets cyclists use the roadway whether or not
    a bicycle lane is present.

  3. Steve McDonald said:


    A few people have mentioned the dangers of bike lanes that go opposite directions and are on
    each side of streets that are one-way for motor traffic. About a dozen years ago, some
    geniuses with the city and university in Eugene installed such a setup, that seems like a
    shooting gallery, with bikers being the ducks. It's 5 blocks long and the motor lane is very
    narrow and heavily traveled. It's a crazy experience to ride the lane that has cars coming
    the other way, just a few feet to your left. Unlike same-direction drivers, those coming at
    you headon, have a greatly reduced time to see you and react properly. The worst part is that
    there's 4 street entries in this stretch, where cars cross in front of bikers. Since the
    motor traffic is one-way, many drivers think to look only to the right before they cross and
    ignore the possibility that a biker may be coming from their left.

    A cyclist would have to be nuts to ride against traffic -- bike lane or no. Do not use this lane.
    Bike lanes under the best of circumstances are of marginal use (beyond awareness issues), and most
    of them end at intersections, or route car right turn lanes right through the bikes, which is worse
    than useless. But this is legislative murder.

    There has to be an alternate route going the way you can't use on this path (since the motorway is
    one-way). Use that.

    --

    David L. Johnson

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  4. [email hidden] (Steve McDonald) wrote in message
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    How many such bicycle traps exist in other cities and how do they come into existence?

    There's one several miles long on West Lake Sammamish Parkway here in Bellevue, (WA USA). There is a
    steep slope alongside the lake. The Parkway was originally a state route, and the state did not want
    to pay for the costs of a bike lane on both sides of the street when it was built.

    If you go here: google.comgroups
    oe=UTF-8&output=gplain (or tinyurl.comn6hq) you'll see my article I posted about the
    political issues involved in changing this situation.

    To call these "dual-direction bike lanes" is a misnomer. They are single direction bike lanes,
    and they run in the direction with the rest of traffic only. Anyone who uses them to ride
    against traffic endangers him/herself, and all others (cyclists, pedestrians, and motorists) who
    make up traffic.

    Warm Regards,

    Claire Petersky ([email hidden]) Home of the meditative cyclist:
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  5. Quoted message said:

    How many such bicycle traps exist in other cities and how do they come into existence? How
    many bikers would have to die on them, before they would be changed? I no longer use this
    reverse-direction lane, even though I have to make a detour up a hill and ride on sidewalks
    to safely avoid it. It's also at one end of a

    There's a wrong way trap where I live too. Its a path not a lane (separated from the roadway by a
    few feet, which makes the cyclists even more invisible) The worst part is they've installed bicycle
    signals at the intersections as well. Bike light going on the wrong side of the road (left) is
    green at the same time the auto light is green, so someone could easily make a left turn without
    checking for someone coming up the wrong way off the bicycle path and the light makes it appear
    safe to do so.

    I don't know if its the existence of wrong way lanes or what, but I find that there seems to be a
    significant number of cyclists that figure if its a bike lane at all they can travel whichever way
    they want in it.

  6. Tanya Quinn said:

    There's a wrong way trap where I live too. Its a path not a lane (separated from the roadway by a
    few feet, which makes the cyclists even more invisible) The worst part is they've installed bicycle
    signals at the intersections as well.------


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    Most separate bicycle paths are intended for two-way traffic. It's onstreet bike lanes going
    against one-way motor traffic flow, that I was describing. However, the situation you mention,
    where a separate path goes through light-controled street intersections, can be dangerous. We
    have a bikepath that goes down the center median between a 4-lane parkway. When a bike rider
    goes through one of many intersections, the wait/walk signal for pedestrians is used and no
    motor traffic can make turns when the walk light is lit. This solves the safety problem, if
    drivers obey the lights.

    When both bicycles and turning cars have a green light together, as on your path, this makes
    things very hairy. I'd talk to the agency in your city that manages traffic lights and tell
    them of the danger this causes for riders. They might respond by shifting to a green light
    phase for the bikepath that is separate from that for the motor traffic lanes (wishful
    thinking??).

    Steve McDonald

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