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Micheal Artindale said:

Maybe for you. For me, I am able to go further, longer, faster. Takes me
about 20 mins for 1km open water, in a pool, its almost 30mins.

Your claim is that your speed decreases by 50% when you move from open
water into the pool. And it's not decreasing from fast to not so fast.
It's decreasing from slow to agonizingly slow. 3 minutes per 100m. I
can't imagine a scenario where that would make sense.

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Yes, but it says nothing about swimming fitness. These tests don't measure
swimming speed and endurance.

My point exactly. It is not required for a navy diver.

Well, I guess Canada has never been known for its navy.

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Micheal Artindale said:

Maybe for you. For me, I am able to go further, longer, faster. Takes me
about 20 mins for 1km open water, in a pool, its almost 30mins.

Your claim is that your speed decreases by 50% when you move from open
water into the pool. And it's not decreasing from fast to not so fast.
It's decreasing from slow to agonizingly slow. 3 minutes per 100m. I can't
imagine a scenario where that would make sense.

Uhm... it is 1/3 slower. 20/30 =2/3, so, the difference is 1/3. Im guessing
your math is not as good as your swimming.

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Yes, but it says nothing about swimming fitness. These tests don't
measure swimming speed and endurance.

My point exactly. It is not required for a navy diver.

Well, I guess Canada has never been known for its navy.

There are certain things that are the best in the world. I dont know if one
is the divers.

Where are you from anyway? are they the best on the ocean?

Micheal

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Micheal Artindale said:

Maybe for you. For me, I am able to go further, longer, faster. Takes me
about 20 mins for 1km open water, in a pool, its almost 30mins.

Your claim is that your speed decreases by 50% when you move from open
water into the pool. And it's not decreasing from fast to not so fast.
It's decreasing from slow to agonizingly slow. 3 minutes per 100m. I can't
imagine a scenario where that would make sense.

Uhm... it is 1/3 slower. 20/30 =2/3, so, the difference is 1/3. Im guessing
your math is not as good as your swimming.

No, 30 - 20 is 10. 10/20 is 50% slower. 30 minutes is 3/2 of 20 minutes.
You have to actually do math as a diver. Your life depends on it.

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> Yes, but it says nothing about swimming fitness. These tests don't
> measure swimming speed and endurance.
My point exactly. It is not required for a navy diver.

Well, I guess Canada has never been known for its navy.

There are certain things that are the best in the world. I dont know if one
is the divers.

Where are you from anyway? are they the best on the ocean?

I'm from Tacoma, Washington. We are good at building bridges. We didn't
used to be, but we learned from our mistakes, and we created the science
of wind tunnel testing.

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Micheal Artindale wrote:

> Maybe for you. For me, I am able to go further, longer, faster. Takes
> me about 20 mins for 1km open water, in a pool, its almost 30mins.
Your claim is that your speed decreases by 50% when you move from open
water into the pool. And it's not decreasing from fast to not so fast.
It's decreasing from slow to agonizingly slow. 3 minutes per 100m. I
can't imagine a scenario where that would make sense.

Uhm... it is 1/3 slower. 20/30 =2/3, so, the difference is 1/3. Im
guessing your math is not as good as your swimming.

No, 30 - 20 is 10. 10/20 is 50% slower. 30 minutes is 3/2 of 20 minutes.
You have to actually do math as a diver. Your life depends on it.

I know you are wrong here, however, it is pointless for me to figure out how
to argue it.

If you have a whole applepie, and you slice it into 30 even slices. if 20 of
your friends each eat 1 slice, how much pie do you have?

It is not 1/2.

If it is, I am glad I would never dive with you. I would end up dead

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>> Yes, but it says nothing about swimming fitness. These tests don't
>> measure swimming speed and endurance.
> My point exactly. It is not required for a navy diver.
Well, I guess Canada has never been known for its navy.

There are certain things that are the best in the world. I dont know if
one is the divers.

Where are you from anyway? are they the best on the ocean?

I'm from Tacoma, Washington. We are good at building bridges. We didn't
used to be, but we learned from our mistakes, and we created the science
of wind tunnel testing.

OK, uhm. Bridges are not supposed to whip in the wind.

The only thing about the American navy better than Canada is: Sheer Volume.
We can pick up their subs miles away. We have Beer on ship(american ships
are dry) Their Friggits are smaller. Their large ships ar banned from
certain places in this world due to the nuclear pwoer plants ...

I could go on and on and on, but I wont.

The americans purchase equipment from us canadians. The CADPAT design that
the americans use, was originally canadian. the americans just changed the
shades. The LAVs are built in canada.

If I were on an american ship, my job would be so specific. I am a Marine
engineering mechanic. On our ships, I deal with anything that is machinery,
but is not weapons or black water/. If I were on an american ship, I would
be incharge of one piece of machnery, an not have a clue about anything
else.

I like my trade. I love my country.

Micheal

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> Micheal Artindale wrote:
>
>> Maybe for you. For me, I am able to go further, longer, faster. Takes
>> me about 20 mins for 1km open water, in a pool, its almost 30mins.
> Your claim is that your speed decreases by 50% when you move from open
> water into the pool. And it's not decreasing from fast to not so fast.
> It's decreasing from slow to agonizingly slow. 3 minutes per 100m. I
> can't imagine a scenario where that would make sense.
Uhm... it is 1/3 slower. 20/30 =2/3, so, the difference is 1/3. Im
guessing your math is not as good as your swimming.

No, 30 - 20 is 10. 10/20 is 50% slower. 30 minutes is 3/2 of 20 minutes.
You have to actually do math as a diver. Your life depends on it.

I know you are wrong here, however, it is pointless for me to figure out how
to argue it.

If you have a whole applepie, and you slice it into 30 even slices. if 20 of
your friends each eat 1 slice, how much pie do you have?

It is not 1/2.

If it is, I am glad I would never dive with you. I would end up dead

Your apple pie begins with 20 slices, because you are able to swim 1k in
20 minutes in open water. When you swim 1k in the pool, you have to add
10 slices.

Your time is 2 minutes per 100m in open water. It reduces to 3 minutes
per 100m in the pool. That's a reduction in speed of 1 minute per 100m.
1 minute is 50% of 2 minutes.

I hope you get the benz and not the bends.

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>>> Yes, but it says nothing about swimming fitness. These tests don't
>>> measure swimming speed and endurance.
>> My point exactly. It is not required for a navy diver.
> Well, I guess Canada has never been known for its navy.
There are certain things that are the best in the world. I dont know if
one is the divers.

Where are you from anyway? are they the best on the ocean?

I'm from Tacoma, Washington. We are good at building bridges. We didn't
used to be, but we learned from our mistakes, and we created the science
of wind tunnel testing.

OK, uhm. Bridges are not supposed to whip in the wind.

....and we know that thanks to Tacoma.

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The only thing about the American navy better than Canada is: Sheer Volume.
We can pick up their subs miles away. We have Beer on ship(american ships
are dry) Their Friggits are smaller. Their large ships ar banned from
certain places in this world due to the nuclear pwoer plants ...

But our divers can swim fast and even do arithmetic.

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I could go on and on and on, but I wont.

The americans purchase equipment from us canadians. The CADPAT design that
the americans use, was originally canadian. the americans just changed the
shades. The LAVs are built in canada.

If I were on an american ship, my job would be so specific. I am a Marine
engineering mechanic. On our ships, I deal with anything that is machinery,
but is not weapons or black water/. If I were on an american ship, I would
be incharge of one piece of machnery, an not have a clue about anything
else.

I like my trade. I love my country.

You are the only person in the world who swims a lot slower in the pool
than he does in open water.

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Micheal Artindale wrote:
> "mwsmith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>> Micheal Artindale wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe for you. For me, I am able to go further, longer, faster. Takes
>>> me about 20 mins for 1km open water, in a pool, its almost 30mins.
>> Your claim is that your speed decreases by 50% when you move from open
>> water into the pool. And it's not decreasing from fast to not so fast.
>> It's decreasing from slow to agonizingly slow. 3 minutes per 100m. I
>> can't imagine a scenario where that would make sense.
> Uhm... it is 1/3 slower. 20/30 =2/3, so, the difference is 1/3. Im
> guessing your math is not as good as your swimming.
No, 30 - 20 is 10. 10/20 is 50% slower. 30 minutes is 3/2 of 20 minutes.
You have to actually do math as a diver. Your life depends on it.

I know you are wrong here, however, it is pointless for me to figure out
how to argue it.

If you have a whole applepie, and you slice it into 30 even slices. if 20
of your friends each eat 1 slice, how much pie do you have?

It is not 1/2.

If it is, I am glad I would never dive with you. I would end up dead

Your apple pie begins with 20 slices, because you are able to swim 1k in
20 minutes in open water. When you swim 1k in the pool, you have to add 10
slices.

Your time is 2 minutes per 100m in open water. It reduces to 3 minutes per
100m in the pool. That's a reduction in speed of 1 minute per 100m. 1
minute is 50% of 2 minutes.

I hope you get the benz and not the bends.

Why would I want a German car?

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>>>> Yes, but it says nothing about swimming fitness. These tests don't
>>>> measure swimming speed and endurance.
>>> My point exactly. It is not required for a navy diver.
>> Well, I guess Canada has never been known for its navy.
> There are certain things that are the best in the world. I dont know if
> one is the divers.
>
> Where are you from anyway? are they the best on the ocean?
I'm from Tacoma, Washington. We are good at building bridges. We didn't
used to be, but we learned from our mistakes, and we created the science
of wind tunnel testing.

OK, uhm. Bridges are not supposed to whip in the wind.

...and we know that thanks to Tacoma.

I dont believe Canada has made such destructive blunders.

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The only thing about the American navy better than Canada is: Sheer
Volume. We can pick up their subs miles away. We have Beer on
ship(american ships are dry) Their Friggits are smaller. Their large
ships ar banned from certain places in this world due to the nuclear
pwoer plants ...

But our divers can swim fast and even do arithmetic.

Wave that flag higher.

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I could go on and on and on, but I wont.

The americans purchase equipment from us canadians. The CADPAT design
that the americans use, was originally canadian. the americans just
changed the shades. The LAVs are built in canada.

If I were on an american ship, my job would be so specific. I am a Marine
engineering mechanic. On our ships, I deal with anything that is
machinery, but is not weapons or black water/. If I were on an american
ship, I would be incharge of one piece of machnery, an not have a clue
about anything else.

I like my trade. I love my country.

You are the only person in the world who swims a lot slower in the pool
than he does in open water.

Yes, I am unique.

Micheal

Micheal Artindale said:

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If it is, I am glad I would never dive with you. I would end up dead

Your apple pie begins with 20 slices, because you are able to swim 1k in
20 minutes in open water. When you swim 1k in the pool, you have to add 10
slices.

Your time is 2 minutes per 100m in open water. It reduces to 3 minutes per
100m in the pool. That's a reduction in speed of 1 minute per 100m. 1
minute is 50% of 2 minutes.

I hope you get the benz and not the bends.

Why would I want a German car?

Germans can do arithmetic. But look at it this way. When you move from
the pool to open water, your speed increases by 1/3. That's the opposite
effect of the rest of the human race, but like you said, you are odd.

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>>>>> Yes, but it says nothing about swimming fitness. These tests don't
>>>>> measure swimming speed and endurance.
>>>> My point exactly. It is not required for a navy diver.
>>> Well, I guess Canada has never been known for its navy.
>> There are certain things that are the best in the world. I dont know if
>> one is the divers.
>>
>> Where are you from anyway? are they the best on the ocean?
> I'm from Tacoma, Washington. We are good at building bridges. We didn't
> used to be, but we learned from our mistakes, and we created the science
> of wind tunnel testing.
OK, uhm. Bridges are not supposed to whip in the wind.

...and we know that thanks to Tacoma.

I dont believe Canada has made such destructive blunders.

Well, it stole Canada from the indians and recently gave quite a lot of
it back. And during the vietnam war it profiteered quite a lot in
selling arms.

But you're right, Canada hasn't made nearly as many destructive blunders
as the US. It hasn't made nearly as many advances either.

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The only thing about the American navy better than Canada is: Sheer
Volume. We can pick up their subs miles away. We have Beer on
ship(american ships are dry) Their Friggits are smaller. Their large
ships ar banned from certain places in this world due to the nuclear
pwoer plants ...

But our divers can swim fast and even do arithmetic.

Wave that flag higher.

Look all those wonderous things you wrote about the Canadian navy. Then
compare it to the one, short sentence I wrote about the US navy.

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I could go on and on and on, but I wont.

The americans purchase equipment from us canadians. The CADPAT design
that the americans use, was originally canadian. the americans just
changed the shades. The LAVs are built in canada.

If I were on an american ship, my job would be so specific. I am a Marine
engineering mechanic. On our ships, I deal with anything that is
machinery, but is not weapons or black water/. If I were on an american
ship, I would be incharge of one piece of machnery, an not have a clue
about anything else.

I like my trade. I love my country.

You are the only person in the world who swims a lot slower in the pool
than he does in open water.

Yes, I am unique.

You are a fool.

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Micheal Artindale said:

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> If it is, I am glad I would never dive with you. I would end up dead
Your apple pie begins with 20 slices, because you are able to swim 1k in
20 minutes in open water. When you swim 1k in the pool, you have to add
10 slices.

Your time is 2 minutes per 100m in open water. It reduces to 3 minutes
per 100m in the pool. That's a reduction in speed of 1 minute per 100m.
1 minute is 50% of 2 minutes.

I hope you get the benz and not the bends.

Why would I want a German car?

Germans can do arithmetic. But look at it this way. When you move from the
pool to open water, your speed increases by 1/3. That's the opposite
effect of the rest of the human race, but like you said, you are odd.

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>>>>>> Yes, but it says nothing about swimming fitness. These tests don't
>>>>>> measure swimming speed and endurance.
>>>>> My point exactly. It is not required for a navy diver.
>>>> Well, I guess Canada has never been known for its navy.
>>> There are certain things that are the best in the world. I dont know
>>> if one is the divers.
>>>
>>> Where are you from anyway? are they the best on the ocean?
>> I'm from Tacoma, Washington. We are good at building bridges. We
>> didn't used to be, but we learned from our mistakes, and we created
>> the science of wind tunnel testing.
> OK, uhm. Bridges are not supposed to whip in the wind.
...and we know that thanks to Tacoma.

I dont believe Canada has made such destructive blunders.

Well, it stole Canada from the indians and recently gave quite a lot of it
back. And during the vietnam war it profiteered quite a lot in selling
arms.

But you're right, Canada hasn't made nearly as many destructive blunders
as the US. It hasn't made nearly as many advances either.

I guess you do not like zippers? The telephone? And then there was something
called the Avro Arrow.

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> The only thing about the American navy better than Canada is: Sheer
> Volume. We can pick up their subs miles away. We have Beer on
> ship(american ships are dry) Their Friggits are smaller. Their large
> ships ar banned from certain places in this world due to the nuclear
> pwoer plants ...
But our divers can swim fast and even do arithmetic.

Wave that flag higher.

Look all those wonderous things you wrote about the Canadian navy. Then
compare it to the one, short sentence I wrote about the US navy.

If you talked good things about where you work, and I tried to shoot it
down, what would you think?

I talk good about where I work. I am proud to be part of the Canadian Navy

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> I could go on and on and on, but I wont.
>
> The americans purchase equipment from us canadians. The CADPAT design
> that the americans use, was originally canadian. the americans just
> changed the shades. The LAVs are built in canada.
>
> If I were on an american ship, my job would be so specific. I am a
> Marine engineering mechanic. On our ships, I deal with anything that is
> machinery, but is not weapons or black water/. If I were on an american
> ship, I would be incharge of one piece of machnery, an not have a clue
> about anything else.
>
> I like my trade. I love my country.
You are the only person in the world who swims a lot slower in the pool
than he does in open water.

Yes, I am unique.

You are a fool.

Don't look in the mirror, you might just see something you do not want to
see.

Micheal

Micheal Artindale said:

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But you're right, Canada hasn't made nearly as many destructive blunders
as the US. It hasn't made nearly as many advances either.

I guess you do not like zippers? The telephone? And then there was something
called the Avro Arrow.

The telephone? I could have sworn.

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>> The only thing about the American navy better than Canada is: Sheer
>> Volume. We can pick up their subs miles away. We have Beer on
>> ship(american ships are dry) Their Friggits are smaller. Their large
>> ships ar banned from certain places in this world due to the nuclear
>> pwoer plants ...
> But our divers can swim fast and even do arithmetic.
Wave that flag higher.

Look all those wonderous things you wrote about the Canadian navy. Then
compare it to the one, short sentence I wrote about the US navy.

If you talked good things about where you work, and I tried to shoot it
down, what would you think?

You were the one who said "Wave the flag higher." You also claim that
Canadian Navy divers don't have to be good swimmers. You said there is
no swimming requirement to be a diver in the Canadian Navy.

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I talk good about where I work. I am proud to be part of the Canadian Navy

But is the Canadian Navy proud of you?

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>> I could go on and on and on, but I wont.
>>
>> The americans purchase equipment from us canadians. The CADPAT design
>> that the americans use, was originally canadian. the americans just
>> changed the shades. The LAVs are built in canada.
>>
>> If I were on an american ship, my job would be so specific. I am a
>> Marine engineering mechanic. On our ships, I deal with anything that is
>> machinery, but is not weapons or black water/. If I were on an american
>> ship, I would be incharge of one piece of machnery, an not have a clue
>> about anything else.
>>
>> I like my trade. I love my country.
> You are the only person in the world who swims a lot slower in the pool
> than he does in open water.
Yes, I am unique.

You are a fool.

Don't look in the mirror, you might just see something you do not want to
see.

You mean because "Objects in mirror or closer than they appear."

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But you're right, Canada hasn't made nearly as many destructive blunders
as the US. It hasn't made nearly as many advances either.

I guess you do not like zippers? The telephone? And then there was
something called the Avro Arrow.

The telephone? I could have sworn.

Alexander Graham Bell invented it in Canada. I think he was British though.

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>>> The only thing about the American navy better than Canada is: Sheer
>>> Volume. We can pick up their subs miles away. We have Beer on
>>> ship(american ships are dry) Their Friggits are smaller. Their large
>>> ships ar banned from certain places in this world due to the nuclear
>>> pwoer plants ...
>> But our divers can swim fast and even do arithmetic.
> Wave that flag higher.
Look all those wonderous things you wrote about the Canadian navy. Then
compare it to the one, short sentence I wrote about the US navy.

If you talked good things about where you work, and I tried to shoot it
down, what would you think?

You were the one who said "Wave the flag higher." You also claim that
Canadian Navy divers don't have to be good swimmers. You said there is no
swimming requirement to be a diver in the Canadian Navy.

There is no swimming requirement for a Navy Diver in Canada.

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I talk good about where I work. I am proud to be part of the Canadian
Navy

But is the Canadian Navy proud of you?

Yes, very much so.

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>>> I could go on and on and on, but I wont.
>>>
>>> The americans purchase equipment from us canadians. The CADPAT design
>>> that the americans use, was originally canadian. the americans just
>>> changed the shades. The LAVs are built in canada.
>>>
>>> If I were on an american ship, my job would be so specific. I am a
>>> Marine engineering mechanic. On our ships, I deal with anything that
>>> is machinery, but is not weapons or black water/. If I were on an
>>> american ship, I would be incharge of one piece of machnery, an not
>>> have a clue about anything else.
>>>
>>> I like my trade. I love my country.
>> You are the only person in the world who swims a lot slower in the
>> pool than he does in open water.
> Yes, I am unique.
You are a fool.

Don't look in the mirror, you might just see something you do not want
to see.

You mean because "Objects in mirror or closer than they appear."

Micheal

Micheal Artindale said:

There is no swimming requirement for a Navy Diver in Canada.

I'll bet that if a person who can't swim applied to be a diver in the
Canadian Navy, the Canadian Navy would reject his application. That
would mean there is a swimming requirement. But, you know best.

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> Micheal Artindale wrote:
>
>> Maybe for you. For me, I am able to go further, longer, faster. Takes
>> me about 20 mins for 1km open water, in a pool, its almost 30mins.

This is obviously not true. Why bother to argue?

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Micheal Artindale said:

There is no swimming requirement for a Navy Diver in Canada.

I'll bet that if a person who can't swim applied to be a diver in the
Canadian Navy, the Canadian Navy would reject his application. That
would mean there is a swimming requirement. But, you know best.

Time for you two to get a room.

-S-