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  1. No the subject line is not a pun on middle age.

    I'm curious as to whether anyone has ever dry aged their own beef. I live in
    an urban apartment and I love my occasional rib eye.

    cheers

  2. rmg said:

    No the subject line is not a pun on middle age.

    I'm curious as to whether anyone has ever dry aged their own beef. I live in
    an urban apartment and I love my occasional rib eye.

    Funny you should ask. Wednesday's radio program was all about this. I
    mentioned it and we got lots of phone calls about the whole subject.

    Freshly killed beef doesn't taste very good and is on the tough side.
    Aging permits the enzymes naturally present in the meat to "digest" it a
    bit to make it more tender and improve the flavor. That applies to
    either wet or dry aging. Dry aging confers an additional benefit. It
    lets some of the moisture dry out of the meat and, so, concentrates the
    flavor while permitting the enzymes to continue tenderizing.

    The meat I last used was a cryopack rib section (the whole 11 to 14
    pound piece still in its wholesale packaging) from Costco that I store
    in my fridge for a couple weeks just as I buy it. I usually cut anywhere
    from 21 to 28 steaks from each piece, so you have to like beef a lot or
    have a big party planned.

    What this *is not* is the packages in the meat counter of most
    supermarkets where they've cut larger pieces into small steaks or roasts
    and they're sitting on plastic trays with one of those absorptive
    "diapers" to soak up the blood. You can't wet age them. The meat will
    simply spoil. You can dry-age them briefly - two or three days - but
    that's all.

    Cryopacked meats have a shelf life (refrigerated) of something over a
    month from pack date, on up to about 45 days. I store them unopened in
    my fridge for two weeks.

    Then I take them out of the packaging, rinse them off and dry with paper
    towels. I put the whole piece of meat on a rack like people use for
    cooling cakes and put that on a baking sheet (restaurant half sheet pan)
    with sides. I loosely drape a clean paper towel over the meat and put it
    in the fridge for another week or so. No seasoning, no marinades. No
    messing with it. Plain meat. As long as it's up off the pan so air can
    get all around it, it won't spoil any time soon. The last one I did went
    almost 20 days dry aging before we ate the last of it and it still
    smelled like good, clean meat. Some of the surface will dry and get a
    bit hard. The usual thing is to cut that off, but I don't bother. I've
    never been bothered by the dried part after cooking.

    I cut steaks as needed from the big piece and put it right back in the
    fridge. It can *never* be put into a sealed container for more than a
    couple days before you'll smell spoilage proceeding.

    Here are the cautions:
    1) if the meat is sitting on a solid surface rather than a rack, it will
    spoil in a few days.
    2) the meat must be kept cold all through the aging process.
    3) make sure the meat isn't sitting under anything that will drip on it.
    4) dry-aged meats don't render much juice, but make sure any tiny bit of
    juice can't drip on any other food.

    Dry-aged meats are commercially available, but they're very pricey. I
    paid $15 a pound for rib eye steaks recently to do a comparison. Mine in
    the last batch were every bit as good, maybe better.

    I have a new one wet-aging even as we speak.

    Pastorio

  3. Wow, this is a GREAT response! I pay almost 15 a pound for a rib eye in San
    Francisco and it's not even dry aged :-(
    What about a one-person situation? Can I vac-pac a rib eye with similar
    results?

    "Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    rmg said:

    No the subject line is not a pun on middle age.

    I'm curious as to whether anyone has ever dry aged their own beef. I


    live in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    an urban apartment and I love my occasional rib eye.

    Funny you should ask. Wednesday's radio program was all about this. I
    mentioned it and we got lots of phone calls about the whole subject.

    Freshly killed beef doesn't taste very good and is on the tough side.
    Aging permits the enzymes naturally present in the meat to "digest" it a
    bit to make it more tender and improve the flavor. That applies to
    either wet or dry aging. Dry aging confers an additional benefit. It
    lets some of the moisture dry out of the meat and, so, concentrates the
    flavor while permitting the enzymes to continue tenderizing.

    The meat I last used was a cryopack rib section (the whole 11 to 14
    pound piece still in its wholesale packaging) from Costco that I store
    in my fridge for a couple weeks just as I buy it. I usually cut anywhere
    from 21 to 28 steaks from each piece, so you have to like beef a lot or
    have a big party planned.

    What this *is not* is the packages in the meat counter of most
    supermarkets where they've cut larger pieces into small steaks or roasts
    and they're sitting on plastic trays with one of those absorptive
    "diapers" to soak up the blood. You can't wet age them. The meat will
    simply spoil. You can dry-age them briefly - two or three days - but
    that's all.

    Cryopacked meats have a shelf life (refrigerated) of something over a
    month from pack date, on up to about 45 days. I store them unopened in
    my fridge for two weeks.

    Then I take them out of the packaging, rinse them off and dry with paper
    towels. I put the whole piece of meat on a rack like people use for
    cooling cakes and put that on a baking sheet (restaurant half sheet pan)
    with sides. I loosely drape a clean paper towel over the meat and put it
    in the fridge for another week or so. No seasoning, no marinades. No
    messing with it. Plain meat. As long as it's up off the pan so air can
    get all around it, it won't spoil any time soon. The last one I did went
    almost 20 days dry aging before we ate the last of it and it still
    smelled like good, clean meat. Some of the surface will dry and get a
    bit hard. The usual thing is to cut that off, but I don't bother. I've
    never been bothered by the dried part after cooking.

    I cut steaks as needed from the big piece and put it right back in the
    fridge. It can *never* be put into a sealed container for more than a
    couple days before you'll smell spoilage proceeding.

    Here are the cautions:
    1) if the meat is sitting on a solid surface rather than a rack, it will
    spoil in a few days.
    2) the meat must be kept cold all through the aging process.
    3) make sure the meat isn't sitting under anything that will drip on it.
    4) dry-aged meats don't render much juice, but make sure any tiny bit of
    juice can't drip on any other food.

    Dry-aged meats are commercially available, but they're very pricey. I
    paid $15 a pound for rib eye steaks recently to do a comparison. Mine in
    the last batch were every bit as good, maybe better.

    I have a new one wet-aging even as we speak.

    Pastorio

  4. rmg said:

    Wow, this is a GREAT response! I pay almost 15 a pound for a rib eye
    in San Francisco and it's not even dry aged :-( What about a
    one-person situation? Can I vac-pac a rib eye with similar results?

    You *can't* vacuum package a steak at home to wet-age it. Beyond that, I
    said below:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    What this *is not* is the packages in the meat counter of most
    supermarkets where they've cut larger pieces into small steaks or
    roasts and they're sitting on plastic trays with one of those
    absorptive "diapers" to soak up the blood. You can't wet age them.
    The meat will simply spoil. You can dry-age them briefly - two or
    three days - but that's all.

    Put the steak on a rack to get it up off the surface and drape a paper
    towel over it. Two or three days is about it. It'll get a little better
    than you bought, but it'll also be a bit smaller from evaporation of juices.

    Pastorio

    Quoted message said:


    "Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    rmg said:

    No the subject line is not a pun on middle age.

    I'm curious as to whether anyone has ever dry aged their own
    beef. I

    live in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    an urban apartment and I love my occasional rib eye.

    Funny you should ask. Wednesday's radio program was all about this.
    I mentioned it and we got lots of phone calls about the whole
    subject.

    Freshly killed beef doesn't taste very good and is on the tough
    side. Aging permits the enzymes naturally present in the meat to
    "digest" it a bit to make it more tender and improve the flavor.
    That applies to either wet or dry aging. Dry aging confers an
    additional benefit. It lets some of the moisture dry out of the
    meat and, so, concentrates the flavor while permitting the enzymes
    to continue tenderizing.

    The meat I last used was a cryopack rib section (the whole 11 to 14
    pound piece still in its wholesale packaging) from Costco that I
    store in my fridge for a couple weeks just as I buy it. I usually
    cut anywhere from 21 to 28 steaks from each piece, so you have to
    like beef a lot or have a big party planned.

    What this *is not* is the packages in the meat counter of most
    supermarkets where they've cut larger pieces into small steaks or
    roasts and they're sitting on plastic trays with one of those
    absorptive "diapers" to soak up the blood. You can't wet age them.
    The meat will simply spoil. You can dry-age them briefly - two or
    three days - but that's all.

    Cryopacked meats have a shelf life (refrigerated) of something over
    a month from pack date, on up to about 45 days. I store them
    unopened in my fridge for two weeks.

    Then I take them out of the packaging, rinse them off and dry with
    paper towels. I put the whole piece of meat on a rack like people
    use for cooling cakes and put that on a baking sheet (restaurant
    half sheet pan) with sides. I loosely drape a clean paper towel
    over the meat and put it in the fridge for another week or so. No
    seasoning, no marinades. No messing with it. Plain meat. As long as
    it's up off the pan so air can get all around it, it won't spoil
    any time soon. The last one I did went almost 20 days dry aging
    before we ate the last of it and it still smelled like good, clean
    meat. Some of the surface will dry and get a bit hard. The usual
    thing is to cut that off, but I don't bother. I've never been
    bothered by the dried part after cooking.

    I cut steaks as needed from the big piece and put it right back in
    the fridge. It can *never* be put into a sealed container for more
    than a couple days before you'll smell spoilage proceeding.

    Here are the cautions: 1) if the meat is sitting on a solid surface
    rather than a rack, it will spoil in a few days. 2) the meat must
    be kept cold all through the aging process. 3) make sure the meat
    isn't sitting under anything that will drip on it. 4) dry-aged
    meats don't render much juice, but make sure any tiny bit of juice
    can't drip on any other food.

    Dry-aged meats are commercially available, but they're very pricey.
    I paid $15 a pound for rib eye steaks recently to do a comparison.
    Mine in the last batch were every bit as good, maybe better.

    I have a new one wet-aging even as we speak.

    Pastorio

  5. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    The meat I last used was a cryopack rib section (the whole 11 to 14
    pound piece still in its wholesale packaging) from Costco that I
    store in my fridge for a couple weeks just as I buy it. I usually
    cut anywhere from 21 to 28 steaks from each piece, so you have to
    like beef a lot or have a big party planned.

    How much is something like this priced?

    What does dry aging do for the meat? Does it actually taste better than
    the rib eye or new york strips I can buy at the market?

  6. "Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    rmg said:

    Wow, this is a GREAT response! I pay almost 15 a pound for a rib eye
    in San Francisco and it's not even dry aged :-( What about a
    one-person situation? Can I vac-pac a rib eye with similar results?

    You *can't* vacuum package a steak at home to wet-age it. Beyond that, I
    said below:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    What this *is not* is the packages in the meat counter of most
    supermarkets where they've cut larger pieces into small steaks or
    roasts and they're sitting on plastic trays with one of those
    absorptive "diapers" to soak up the blood. You can't wet age them.
    The meat will simply spoil. You can dry-age them briefly - two or
    three days - but that's all.

    That makes sense. I don't buy steaks on diapers - I usually get them
    individually from heaps of meat at Whole Paycheck (Foods). I will try your
    method the next time I have a rib eye. It sounds like it could be great.
    Thanks for taking the time to explain it twice!

    rox

  7. Bill said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >The meat I last used was a cryopack rib section (the whole 11 to 14
    > pound piece still in its wholesale packaging) from Costco that I
    >store in my fridge for a couple weeks just as I buy it. I usually
    >cut anywhere from 21 to 28 steaks from each piece, so you have to
    >like beef a lot or have a big party planned.

    How much is something like this priced?

    It will vary depending on where you buy it. The last one I bought cost
    $6.29 a pound. Steaks cut from these sections were selling for $7.95 in
    their meat case.

    Quoted message said:

    What does dry aging do for the meat? Does it actually taste better than
    the rib eye or new york strips I can buy at the market?

    I've already written this twice. Go back upthread and read it.

    Pastorio

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