Drugs confession

Simon said:

Sad, just sad.

Is it just me, or when he says 'bigger names', is it
pointed?

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Cycling is well and truly tarnished and this kind of stuff
just makes it worse. I question Gaumont's motives. Is he
just another [censored] Voet - caught and now wants to make the
most of his new found status? When will the T-shirt and film
be released? I suspect that the 'bigger names' remark may
even have been deliberately planted by Gaumont or his
publicity agent to keep the story in the headlines. He
admits to lying and cheating through his career, so why
should now be any different?

This is putting me off watching professional racing as we
now have no idea who is clean or not. This is having a
devastating on what was once a tremendous sport, as I know
of youngsters who are now being pulled out of the
competitive side because of the links to drugs and the
perceptions around cycle racing.

Until a 'positive' means a life ban then the problem will
not disappear.

John B

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Cycling is well and truly tarnished and this kind of stuff
just makes it

worse.

Quoted message said:

I question Gaumont's motives. Is he just another [censored] Voet
- caught and now wants to make the most of his new found
status? When will the T-shirt and film be released? I
suspect that the 'bigger names' remark may even have been
deliberately planted by Gaumont or his publicity agent to
keep the story in the headlines. He admits to lying and
cheating through his career, so why should now be any
different?

This is putting me off watching professional racing as we
now have no idea who is clean or not. This is having a
devastating on what was once a tremendous sport, as I know
of youngsters who are now being pulled out of the
competitive side because of the links to drugs and the
perceptions around cycle racing.

Until a 'positive' means a life ban then the problem will
not disappear.

How can we tell that all that he describes applies only to
the wanna be top riders who have to resort to cheating to
hang with the ones who don't have to cheat? Or does this
really mean that all of them are cheating?
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Alex

JohnB wrote: t, as I know of youngsters who are now
being pulled

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out of the competitive side because of the links to drugs
and the perceptions around cycle racing.

similar but different, an athletics coach i know suggested
my daughter could be a seriously fast sprinter if trained
properly. We decided not to go down that route but to
encourage school based sport because of the pressure on
athletes to take drugs.

pk

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Sad, just sad.

Is it just me, or when he says 'bigger names', is it
pointed?

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It's apity that The BBC cannot even show a picture of
Gaumont. Instead a picture of Cedric Vasseur is shown.
Guit by association ? Or maybe don't let the facts get in
the way of a good story.

Graham

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Simon said:

Sad, just sad.

Is it just me, or when he says 'bigger names', is it
pointed?

If you read the article very carefully, you will note that
it actually excludes certain riders. The last paragraph of
the BBC translation has the scoop. <news.bbc.co.uksOpen ↗
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you that keep thinking there are clean riders even after
these reports year after year are sadly mistaken. just watch
the ones that get busted. then come back. they go from top
20 to top 200. some even kill themselves...

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Excellent insight!!! I had to read it a couple of times to
get the full impact.

Stewart Fleming said:

Simon said:

Sad, just sad.

Is it just me, or when he says 'bigger names', is it
pointed?

If you read the article very carefully, you will note that
it actually excludes certain riders. The last paragraph of
the BBC translation has the scoop. <news.bbc.co.uk-news.bbc.co.uk-Open ↗
/sport1/hi/other_sports/cycling/3516584.stm

On 03/16/2004 12:36 PM, in article [email hidden],

Simon said:

Sad, just sad.

Is it just me, or when he says 'bigger names', is it
pointed?

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Must be pointed, because while the caption says "Gaumont"
the picture is Vasseur.

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Quoted message said:

Simon said:

Sad, just sad.

Is it just me, or when he says 'bigger names', is it
pointed?

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Cycling is well and truly tarnished and this kind of stuff
just makes it

worse.

Quoted message said:

I question Gaumont's motives. Is he just another [censored]
Voet - caught and now wants to make the most of his new
found status? When will the T-shirt and film be released?
I suspect that the 'bigger names' remark may even have
been deliberately planted by Gaumont or his publicity
agent to keep the story in the

headlines.

Quoted message said:

He admits to lying and cheating through his career, so why
should now be any different?

This is putting me off watching professional racing as we
now have no idea who is clean or not. This is having a
devastating on what was once a tremendous sport, as I know
of youngsters who are now being pulled out of the
competitive side because of the links to drugs and the
perceptions around cycle racing.

Until a 'positive' means a life ban then the problem will
not disappear.

Gaumont is seriously trying to make amends in my opinion.
But so what? Some of the stuff he says is pure unadulaterate
myth. You can easily tell the difference between a rub-on
cream and an injection because the quantities in the blood
are hugely different.

Blood packing may not be detectable but I covered that
earlier. Just because your hematocrit is high doesn't mean
you're getting a performance boost.

DAMN!!!!!!

My secret is out! He told everyone about the itchy balls
method!! :-(

On 3/16/04 11:36 AM, in article
[email hidden], "Simon"

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Sad, just sad.

Is it just me, or when he says 'bigger names', is it
pointed?

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The Irish in Kerry were way before their time.

A curse on someone in Kerry Irish is

Go raibh tochas síoraí ar do mhagarla

= may you have an everlasting itch on your scrotum...

they also have things like..

Go raibh tochas ar do thóin agus easpa iongna

may you have an itchy bottom and no fingernails..

The cyclist haven't got to the latter yet...

watch the fingernails.

Steven L. Sheffield said:

On 03/16/2004 12:36 PM, in article
[email hidden], "Simon"

Quoted message said:

Sad, just sad.

Is it just me, or when he says 'bigger names', is it
pointed?

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Must be pointed, because while the caption says "Gaumont"
the picture is Vasseur.

Just shows what changes to the body drugs can cause ;-)

John B

Stewart Fleming said:

If you read the article very carefully, you will note that
it actually excludes certain riders. The last paragraph of
the BBC translation has the scoop. <news.bbc.co.uk-news.bbc.co.uk-Open ↗
/sport1/hi/other_sports/cycling/3516584.stm>

I must not be reading the article carefully enough. Can you
point out the paragraph?

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Robert Chung schreef:

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I must not be reading the article carefully enough. Can
you point out the paragraph?

t*st*cles

I think this word, especially in plural, is the key.

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Quoted message said:

The Irish in Kerry were way before their time.

A curse on someone in Kerry Irish is

Go raibh tochas síoraí ar do mhagarla

= may you have an everlasting itch on your scrotum...

they also have things like..

Go raibh tochas ar do thóin agus easpa iongna

may you have an itchy bottom and no fingernails..

The cyclist haven't got to the latter yet...

watch the fingernails.

A bit like:

May your ass be itcy and your ams too short

HB

On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 09:17:37 +0100, "Robert Chung" <[email hidden]>

() said:

Stewart Fleming said:

If you read the article very carefully, you will note
that it actually excludes certain riders. The last
paragraph of the BBC translation has the scoop. <http-
://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/cycling/3516-
584.stm>

I must not be reading the article carefully enough. Can you
point out the paragraph?

Well, in order to scratch your balls with salt, they
actually need to be there. A certain big-name cyclist is
lacking at least physically in that department. Mentally, he
must have knackers the size of basketballs, but that Texans
happy-sack is as empty as a recumbent-owners wallet the day
after the "Buy 2, get one free" sale at I.C.E. :-)

HTH.
--
Matt K Dunedin, NZ

"Van Hoorebeeck Bart"
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Robert Chung schreef:

Quoted message said:

I must not be reading the article carefully enough. Can
you point out

the

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paragraph?

t*st*cles I think this word, especially in plural, is
the key.

Ah, thanks. BTW, I rather like this helpful little tip that
didn't seem to make it into the BBC article:

"Et pour le taux de cortisone, par exemple, s'il est
effondré - ce qui dénote la prise de cortisone -, il suffit
de prendre un cachet d'hydrocortisone avant le contrôle et
de boire trois litres d'eau, et l'affaire est réglée."