Dropping into a vert-ramp

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critter said:

*I hope to one day see uni-vert riding.
It's got to be done with gliding. yeah foot gliding ..or
how 'bout just a wheel with pegs?
Anybody gettin' close? *

Like a B.C. wheel?

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Vert BC? it might just be me but that is a calling card for some broken
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Yeah, Thats exactly what iv been wanting to do, My stkae part has some
4' verts, and am working on my plate stalls/taps so when i go to the
park i can try the ramp, i want to try something bigger, like 6ft, but
it has to be a quarter pipe because you need ALOT of run up.

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the problem with bigger and bigger verts is that means there higher
which means there is more actuall vert which means it gets harder and
harder. Believe me I have tried

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You could so BC vert, you'd just need to suck in your stomach and lean
down into it, i'd also be nice if you hooked a frame and seat up to your
bc wheel which would really help side to side balance, also a hand brake
would be nice, for mounting and preparing to jump in, I think I could do
it with a little practice.

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Granted, I´ve only seriously tried vert uniing once, on a 24 Muni at a
new skatepark by my house, so I´m talking prematurely. But from what I
experienced, the main problem is speed, or the lack of it. You just
can´t get enough velocity to generate that centrifical force to keep you
pasted up on those walls. You can dink around, going up a vert ramp a
few feet and turning around--like that show on the video, but that's not
really getting it in my book.

A Coker might help, or better yet a geared 29 because it´s more nimble,
but perhaps the best rig is a BC wheel, but man, that's gonna be
hairy.

Time will tell. That new skate park is only a few blocks from my pad so
I'm gonna keep going there till I figure something out.

JL

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I think if someone had a mini-halfpipe, say 3' or so, you could easily
do some sick BC/uni tricks on it. I'm actually gettinginto BC wheeling,
just for that purpose. We have a skatepark here with a "snake-run" which
would be perfect for riding a BC in. Also, you could learn to bend down
and stand up and be able to carve a pool or a bowl like a skateboarder
would.

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I have ridden along the side of a curved quarter pipe on a bc (so has
evan he went with me) and I went up another quarter pipe and i tried to
turn around and come back but it didnt go well.

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vivalargo said:

*Granted, I´ve only seriously tried vert uniing once, on a 24 Muni at
a new skatepark by my house, so I´m talking prematurely.JL *

When you did vert uni was it an actual vert ramp or a mini ramp?

The difference between a vert ramp and a mini ramp is that the mini ramp
has nothing vertical on it. The top part of a vert ramp is straight up.
Mini ramps are usually 6ft and under and vert ramps usually are 8-14 ft.

On your avator it says santa barba unicycle club. When you said
skatepark earlier are you talking about that concrete park near the
beach in santa babara?

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skate4flip said:

*When you did vert uni was it an actual vert ramp or a mini ramp?

Neither--it was here:

http://www.socalskateparks.com/park/SantaMonica

I posted something about it last week and since then I've got abouty
50 PMs about wanting to hook up and check the place out because they
allow unis on the 3-a-week bikes-only sessions. Just now I'm in
Venezuela but am getting back to LA on Wed. the 20th and am good to
go. Next session--Thursday night, 6-8 pm.

QUOTE: The difference between a vert ramp and a mini ramp is that the
mini ramp has nothing vertical on it. The top part of a vert ramp is
straight up. Mini ramps are usually 6ft and under and vert ramps
usually are 8-14 ft.

The biggest pool at this skatepark is about 15 feet deep though other
park pools have sections that are like mini vert ramps in size and
dimensions.

On your avator it says santa barba unicycle club. When you said
skatepark earlier are you talking about that concrete park near the
beach in santa babara? *

My avator refers to the guys and the club I Muni with on weekends. The
SB skatepark does not allow Munis. We´ve tried many times to get
permission.

JL

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vivalargo said:

*My avator refers to the guys and the club I Muni with on weekends.
The SB skatepark does not allow Munis. We´ve tried many times to get
permission. JL *

Ya in concrete skateparks there are alot of ramps that have weird
tranisitions (like you said about some ramps being like mini vert
ramps). Thats too bad that you cant ride in the santa barbara skatepark.
I was skateboarding there last summer and it was alot of fun. San diego
has a very nice skatepark which has a combination of wood and concrete.
Here are some pictures.

http://www.socalskateparks.com/park/clairemont/

In the 4th picture down you can see the vert ramp in the background, i
think it is around 13 feet tall or so.

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i say use a 26 inch wheel uni or bigger, so you don't have to pedal like
CRAZY like in that video. Sun makes them still i think(just got one on
ebay😄 ).

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skate4flip said:

*San diego has a very nice skatepark which has a combination of wood
and concrete. Here are some pictures.

http://www.socalskateparks.com/park/clairemont/

In the 4th picture down you can see the vert ramp in the background, i
think it is around 13 feet tall or so. *

Ive stood beside that halfpipe on more than one occasion and thought
"ok, todays the day im gonna go for it, wait no no no". ahaha

I watched Bucky Lasek ripping it up there. I heard he can even uni. He
was looking a little pissy so i didnt want to bug him though.

That is indeed a very nice park, but also VERY expensive. I hate paying
for skate parks.

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Catboy said:

*I think if someone had a mini-halfpipe, say 3' or so, you could
easily do some sick BC/uni tricks on it.*

Something that small has to be a quarterpipe, or else the transition
would be unrollable. Just do a scale drawing of your mini-pipe and a
scale drawing of your uni and you'll see the tire would slam into the
coping instead of rolling up nicely.

I'd be happy being able to rock the quarterpipe... with spins, shifties,
180s and 360s, footplants and whatnot there's plenty of rockin' to be
done without doing skater-style grinds and whatnot.

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maestro8 said:

*Something that small has to be a quarterpipe, or else the transition
would be unrollable. Just do a scale drawing of your mini-pipe and a
scale drawing of your uni and you'll see the tire would slam into the
coping instead of rolling up nicely.

I'd be happy being able to rock the quarterpipe... with spins,
shifties, 180s and 360s, footplants and whatnot there's plenty of
rockin' to be done without doing skater-style grinds and whatnot. *

Clearly, no one has figured out what's possible in either half pipes or
pools. I think a couple guys have made some good initial progress, as
show by that recent Euro video and the older one by Hardcorecoker guy,
but there's a lot more to do than just rocking the half pipe and pulling
180s at the apex. I also think it's the bikes, not the skaters, who set
the example for unis. The grinds and general fiddling around is, IMO,
the lighweight stuff compared to how the bikes swoop around the walls of
those pools. I really think that's possible on either a geared up 29 or
possibly a Coker. I also think, but certainly don´t know, that a BC
wheel could possibly be ridden somewhat like a skateboard inside those
pools, especially if you had a really small wheel, but somebody's gonna
take a lot of knocks working this one out.

I think the biggest hurdle is not learning the technique, but as Mango
pointed out, dealing with the terror of dropping in on those big pools
and half pipes. A bigger wheel means you don't have to spin so damned
fast, but it also puts you up higher for the certain falls you'll take
getting the process wired.

This is going to be an adventure . . .

JL

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it's not vert, but i've seen dan heaton ride up, and air above a five
foot quarter pipe on a 20.

cyberpunk said:

*You could so BC vert, you'd just need to suck in your stomach and
lean down into it, i'd also be nice if you hooked a frame and seat up
to your bc wheel which would really help side to side balance, also a
hand brake would be nice, for mounting and preparing to jump in, I
think I could do it with a little practice. *

I made a bc wheel like that but with a handle instead of a seat. I was
hoping that I'd be able to ride ramps with it, but don't have good
enough balance with it yet. also, it is really hard to get used to
breaking with it, because you have to adjust your lean against the
pressure of the break which is pretty inconsistant.

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A big wheel isn't really the problem I don't think, the reason somebody
can drop in on a skateboard is because they're going up with the same
momentum from going down, so you could glide in on a uni

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You could so BC vert, you'd just need to suck in your stomach and lean
down into it

and you'd have to be a masochist.

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