Drop down bar ends

Big Lou from Brooklyn said:

Does anyone know of a manufacturer that creates bar ends
for mountain bikes that are like the drop down bars of a
road bike? I once saw them in a bike mag a looong time
ago, but the mag is long gone.

Maybe I'm missing something, but can't you just install 'em
pointing down?

Bill "brilliant new invention: inverted bar ends" S.

Big Lou from Brooklyn said:

Does anyone know of a manufacturer that creates bar ends
for mountain bikes that are like the drop down bars of a
road bike? I once saw them in a bike mag a looong time
ago, but the mag is long gone.

Thanks in advance

Man, I remember those. It's been years since I've seen a
pair. I've been haunting ebay looking for bars and barends
the past couple of weeks, and I haven't seen a pair of those
there. Yet. That's probably the only place you'd ever find a
set of those.

Why don't you just put a regular set of drop bars on? IIRC,
didn't Johnny
T. win the world championship with drop bars long ago?

Regards,
U.

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Big Lou from Brooklyn said:

Does anyone know of a manufacturer that creates bar
ends for

mountain

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bikes that are like the drop down bars of a road bike? I
once saw them in a bike mag a looong time ago, but the
mag is long gone.

Maybe I'm missing something, but can't you just install
'em pointing down?

Bill "brilliant new invention: inverted bar ends" S.

Hi Bill,

The thing about them was that they were fully curved, so
that when you installed them on the ends of a mountain bike
handle bar, it made the straight MTB handlebarrs, look /
work like road bars.

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HardwareLust said:

Big Lou from Brooklyn said:

Does anyone know of a manufacturer that creates bar ends
for mountain bikes that are like the drop down bars of a
road bike? I once saw them in a bike mag a looong time
ago, but the mag is long gone.

Thanks in advance

Man, I remember those. It's been years since I've seen a
pair. I've been haunting ebay looking for bars and barends
the past couple of weeks, and I haven't seen a pair of
those there. Yet. That's probably the only place you'd
ever find a set of those.

Why don't you just put a regular set of drop bars on?
IIRC, didn't Johnny
T. win the world championship with drop bars long ago?

I think so; I have certainly seen the pictures of him doing
a mountain bike race on an MTB with a set of drop bars. In
the picture I saw, he was on a steep descent, in mid-air (in
that era, jumps were a perfectly reasonable obstacle on an
XC course), with drop bars.

I believe the explanation is that at the time, he was
crossing over to road racing, and tried to keep his position
on both bikes as similar as possible. In retrospect, he
wasn't all that thrilled with the experiment, according to
the story I read.

-RjC.

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Big Lou from Brooklyn said:

Does anyone know of a manufacturer that creates bar
ends for

mountain

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bikes that are like the drop down bars of a road bike? I
once saw them in a bike mag a looong time ago, but the
mag is long gone.

Thanks in advance

Man, I remember those. It's been years since I've
seen a pair.

I've

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been haunting ebay looking for bars and barends the past
couple of weeks, and I haven't seen a pair of those there.
Yet. That's

probably

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the only place you'd ever find a set of those.

Why don't you just put a regular set of drop bars on?
IIRC, didn't Johnny T. win the world championship with
drop bars long ago?

Regards,
H.

The reason I'm looking for them is that I want to quickly
'convert' a mountain bike I have into a cyclo-cross bike
without having to do much work. Swap the wide rims for thin,
add the drop down bar ends, and voila.

:: Sigh :: Gotta keep looking on the Bay ...

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Does anyone know of a manufacturer that creates bar ends
for mountain bikes that are like the drop down bars of a
road bike? I once saw them in a bike mag a looong time
ago, but the mag is long gone.

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Does anyone know of a manufacturer that creates bar
ends for

mountain

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bikes that are like the drop down bars of a road bike? I
once saw

them

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in a bike mag a looong time ago, but the mag is
long gone.

"Newk" bar ends

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Peter, you are a god. Thanks!! Those are the puppies I was
looking for.

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Does anyone know of a manufacturer that creates bar ends
for mountain bikes that are like the drop down bars of a
road bike? I once saw them in a bike mag a looong time
ago, but the mag is long gone.

Thanks in advance

If you want to, you can put a drop down road bar on the mtb.
No reason not to do it. No bar gives you as many possible
hand positions to choose from as a road bar.

Bert L.

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Does anyone know of a manufacturer that creates bar
ends for

mountain

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bikes that are like the drop down bars of a road bike? I
once saw them in a bike mag a looong time ago, but the
mag is long gone.

Thanks in advance

If you want to, you can put a drop down road bar on
the mtb. No

reason

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not to do it. No bar gives you as many possible hand
positions to choose from as a road bar.

Bert L.

Hi Bert,

The Problem doing that has always been trying to get the MTB
shifters and brake levers to fit / mount on the road bar.

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Does anyone know of a manufacturer that creates bar ends
for mountain bikes that are like the drop down bars of a
road bike? I once saw them in a bike mag a looong time
ago, but the mag is long gone.

"Newk" bar ends

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That's fantastic. Thanks for the link. I'm surprised anyone
still makes those.

Did you take a look at the bikes on that website? They got
some interesting looking 'bents (81 speeds!), and their
folding bikes look pretty cool, too. (Sorry, for some
unexplainable reason I'm a folding-bike geek.)

Regards,
H.

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Does anyone know of a manufacturer that creates bar ends
for mountain bikes that are like the drop down bars of a
road bike? I once saw them in a bike mag a looong time
ago, but the mag is long gone.

Thanks in advance

This is exactly what you are looking for:

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Andrew Webster

Now, the question is, how would road bike brake levers work on those? Would you still be able to ride on top of the hoods? It seems to me that the standard bard ends would get in the way.

I've been exploring ways to do a similar thing- improve the off-road handling of my touring/'cross bike while preserving its road feel.

Nitto Dirt Drop bars- basically uber-wide drop bars with flared drops- might do the trick as well.

-Jeremy

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Does anyone know of a manufacturer that creates bar
ends for

mountain

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bikes that are like the drop down bars of a road bike? I
once saw

them

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in a bike mag a looong time ago, but the mag is
long gone.

"Newk" bar ends

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Peter, you are a god. Thanks!! Those are the puppies I was
looking for.

jtill said:

Now, the question is, how would road bike brake levers
work on those? Would you still be able to ride on top of
the hoods? It seems to me that the standard bard ends
would get in the way.

They're not intended to be used with road bike levers. The
idea is that you keep all the flat bar controls, and the
Newk bar ends just give you a couple of extra hand
positions. Newk also used to make simple hooks without the
upper extension. It might be possible to fit road levers to
those, but I suspect the tubing used is of smaller diameter
than typical road bars.

James Thomson

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"Newk" bar ends
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Wow! I was just considering this idea for my folding bike.
Thanks Peter, thanks Andrew for the Newk lead, which I had
not found.

In my estimation, one problem with bar ends for the "drop"
hand position is that my conventional bars are a bit wider
than my roadbike bars. Reaching for a lower hand position
with bar ends would put my hands significantly wider than
that of my road bike position.

As an alternative, here is what I've been thinking:
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The Cane Creek Speed Bars have the advantage of an open
clamp. As long as I leave space between the stem and each
brake lever, I can quickly fasten these, and have a more
aero drop hand position. The closed clamp of the Newk
product would require the grips and levers to be removed and
remounted to accomplish this.

At that, the Cane Creek Speed Bars are angled _away_ from
one another, so the drop hand position would not be quite as
narrow as the clamp position on the bars.

One problem is that they are designed for road bars. Would a
"beer-can shim" safely make up the difference in clamp
diameter for flat bars?

I've not tried this yet- I haven't even seen the Speed
Bars in person, but I was thinking of ordering them from
the LBS this week. Anybody with the Cane Creeks want to
comment on them?

Thanks, Nicholas Grieco

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and Andrew Webster ([email hidden]) agreed:

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Wow! I was just considering this idea for my folding bike.
Thanks Peter, thanks Andrew for the Newk lead, which I had
not found.

In my estimation, one problem with bar ends for the
"drop" hand position is that my conventional bars are a
bit wider than my

roadbike

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bars. Reaching for a lower hand position with bar ends
would put my hands significantly wider than that of my
road bike position.

As an alternative, here is what I've been thinking: http:-
//www.canecreek.com/site/product/contact/01_speed.html

The Cane Creek Speed Bars have the advantage of an open
clamp. As long as I leave space between the stem and each
brake lever, I can quickly fasten these, and have a more
aero drop hand position. The closed clamp of the Newk
product would require the grips and levers

to

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be removed and remounted to accomplish this.

At that, the Cane Creek Speed Bars are angled _away_
from one

another,

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so the drop hand position would not be quite as narrow as
the clamp position on the bars.

One problem is that they are designed for road bars. Would
a "beer-can shim" safely make up the difference in clamp
diameter for flat bars?

I've not tried this yet- I haven't even seen the
Speed Bars in

person,

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but I was thinking of ordering them from the LBS
this week. Anybody with the Cane Creeks want to
comment on them?

Thanks, Nicholas Grieco

Nicholas, unfortunately it looks like Newk has gone out of
business so finding their drop down bar ends still in stock
may be a problem. I called the PWB bike store and they are
out of stock (they havent updates the site yet).

The Cane Creek bar ends may be all there is ....