Driver gets away with murder

Peter Signorini said:

Because he's a lawyer (= scum) and knows a few mates
http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,12872261%5E2682,00.html

Not happy, Gladys, not happy at all!

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Cheers
Peter

Sadly proving yet again, that some members of the legal fraternity are lower than shark [censored]. 😠

Now remember kids, if you have to murder someone, use the state-sanctioned weapon - a car!

till

Peter Signorini said:

Because he's a lawyer (= scum) and knows a few mates
http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,12872261%5E2682,00.html

Not happy, Gladys, not happy at all!

Un-Bu-[censored]-leivable! 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠

in '90 my best mate and i were run over by a drunk driver who the cops dragged out of bed 5 hours later, still over the limit and with his car already being fixed in a mate's panelbeaters. 2 knee reco's later, 6 months of not being able to walk on bitumen without being reduced to a dribbling mess, i faced this parasite in court.
he told lovely stories about playing his guitar in the ol' folks home and being a 'good citizen'.

He got a 12 month sentence. suspended. didnt even lose his licence cos they breathalysed him after he had finished driving his weapon.
and the final straw was i found out he lived 2 blocks away from me.
How he survived my urges, i cant explain
seeing red... cant type anymore 😠 😠 😠

"Peter Signorini" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Because he's a lawyer (= scum) and knows a few mates

http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,12872261%5E2682,00.html

Quoted message said:

Not happy, Gladys, not happy at all!

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Cheers
Peter

Sadly, I feel we have a law system which is geared up to protect the
offender, from the perpetration of the crime right up to trial, and even in
prison if he does go there for short time. Let's face it - a criminal can
afford an expensive lawyer (it does help if he's a lawyer himself), whereas
the victim generally cannot, especially if he's dead. Perhaps the legal
system could be streamlined so that all the judge takes into account is the
fees of the resepctive lawyers representing the defendant and the victim,
then makes a decision accordingly. Would save a lot of money in court costs,
wouldn't it?

(Cynical) Henry.

HUMBUG said:

Well _I've_ had a pretty good day in that a "better" class of idiot
tried to kill me. Apparently it was for my own good. Go figure. The
important discovery, for me anyway, was that Ferrari paint doesn't
stand up to cleats any better than BMW X5 paint and Ferrari doors ding
_/REALLY/_ easily. Much easier than BMW X5 doors...:-)

Ooh.. Ferrari.. how nice.. do tell.. 🙂

hippy

hippy said:

HUMBUG said:

Well I've had a pretty good day in that a "better" class of idiot
tried to kill me. Apparently it was for my own good. Go figure. The
important discovery, for me anyway, was that Ferrari paint doesn't
stand up to cleats any better than BMW X5 paint and Ferrari doors
ding REALLY easily. Much easier than BMW X5 doors...:-)

Ooh.. Ferrari.. how nice.. do tell.. 🙂

I can almost hear ess93 saying "oooohh which one..."...:-)

Out this way - Essendon - we have three of the things getting around. A
blue one, a red one and a yellow one. The yellow one got dinged...

Coming down Keilor Rd. from Niddrie, with far too much shopping stacked
in the trailer, the [censored] was giving me a completely hard time.
Pulling in front and jumping on the brakes, driving _very slowly_ along
the bike lane until I passed and then roaring past with bugger all room
and then doing it all again etc. until we got to the ped. crossing red
light at the primary school where he gave me a spray about getting off
the road or getting hit, etc. It was then that he told me that he was
trying to scare me off the road _FOR MY OWN GOOD_......

The lights turned green and he shot through and I turned right at
maccas thinking I'd seen the last of him. I had, until the roundabout
at Mt Alexander Rd. and Leake St. where I was intending to go straight
ahead into Glass St. AND in the middle of the correct lane when the
yellow f-thing came up beside me and pulled a left turn across my bows.
A _very_ satisfying swift kick to the door followed by a /HURRIED/
detour down Winifred St. into the park. Made me feel MUCH better...:-)

Quoted message said:

hippy

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Humbug

On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 at 10:56 GMT, HUMBUG (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Quoted message said:

The lights turned green and he shot through and I turned right at
maccas thinking I'd seen the last of him. I had, until the roundabout
at Mt Alexander Rd. and Leake St. where I was intending to go straight
ahead into Glass St. AND in the middle of the correct lane when the
yellow f-thing came up beside me and pulled a left turn across my bows.
A _very_ satisfying swift kick to the door followed by a /HURRIED/
detour down Winifred St. into the park. Made me feel MUCH better...:-)

Well done sir, well done 🙂

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TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/
Just because they are called 'forbidden' transitions does not mean
that they are forbidden. They are less allowed than allowed
transitions, if you see what I mean. --unknown

flyingdutch said:

Un-Bu-[censored]-leivable! 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠

in '90 my best mate and i were run over by a drunk driver who the cops dragged out of bed 5 hours later, still over the limit and with his car already being fixed in a mate's panelbeaters. 2 knee reco's later, 6 months of not being able to walk on bitumen without being reduced to a dribbling mess, i faced this parasite in court.
he told lovely stories about playing his guitar in the ol' folks home and being a 'good citizen'.

He got a 12 month sentence. suspended. didnt even lose his licence cos they breathalysed him after he had finished driving his weapon.
and the final straw was i found out he lived 2 blocks away from me.
How he survived my urges, i cant explain
seeing red... cant type anymore 😠 😠 😠

Hell, amongst lots of agony that must have caused a lot of anguish. Very hard not to do the bad karma thing and wish bad things on him. 🙁

Regarding the topic I suggest that we, the people on this forum, get prepared to bombard the media with our individual views on the matter, assuming that what is to come on 28th is as limp as what we have seen.

Adelaide Advertiser Letters to the Editor.

ABC Radio Adelaide Guest book down right side

More suggestions.

Just make sure that everyone knows this persons name and what he has done. I dont think that will affect his career.

Cheers
Hugh

On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 at 12:59 GMT, HughMann (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Quoted message said:

Regarding the topic I suggest that we, the people on this forum, get
prepared to bombard the media with our individual views on the matter,
assuming that what is to come on 28th is as limp as what we have seen.

'Adelaide Advertiser ' (http://http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au/)
Letters to the Editor.

Done:

This week, it seems SA criminal lawyer Eugene McGee was found not
guilty of committing a nasty crime himself. Despite admitting to
police that he had previously drank a bottle of wine. Despite
overtaking a vehicle without checking to see whether it was indeed
safe to overtake. Despite driving from the scene of the crime and
only admitting to the police many hours later, via his own lawyer,
that he was at fault, and he had killed someone. How could he? He
didn't know he had killed someone, because he didn't even bother to
stop to see whether he had even killed the cyclist, or whether he
could help. The only remorse he showed was that it may affect his job
if he were found out.

One of the witnesses claimed that the cyclist he hit had been riding
quite some distance from the side of the road. Perhaps that same
witness knows that bikes are given a lane to themselves, for a reason,
and just like cars, it is illegal and stupid to overtake into the path
of a bike. Cyclists don't stand a chance when encountering 2 tonnes
of 4WD being controlled by a drunk lawyer.

His lawyers comments that "What you have in terms of his driving,
objectively assessed, is a wholly unremarkable, totally lawful act of
driving a vehicle along a highway. That tragic and terrible accident
could and probably would have happened no matter who was driving,
including . . . if any of us were driving." demonstrate that neither
lawyer knows nor cares that it is illegal to drink then drive, and it
is illegal to not stop and render assistance in the event of an
accident. Frankly, that they think that any motorist is capable of
such incompetency behind the wheel is insulting to all road users.

I just hope that people needing help from a criminal lawyer in future
remember the name Eugene McGee, and think about whether they want to
be associated with a murderer with absolutely no ethics whatsoever.

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TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/
My other car is a cdr

Peter Signorini said:

Because he's a lawyer (= scum) and knows a few mates
http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,12872261%5E2682,00.html

Not happy, Gladys, not happy at all!

Greetings,
I saw this one in the `Tiser when I was in Adelaide recently.
Moral appears to be, if you're going to kill someone with intent,
do it in a car, you get away with it more cheaply. Helps if you're
a lawyer as well. And look how they pulled up a convenient witness
saying he was `riding erratically'a metre from the kerb, as if he
was somehow responsible for his own murder. Always blame the
victim, rapists have got away with this for years, `She was asking
for it'. Riding erratically was probably dodgy the glass, potholes
and other [censored] as usual. Well and truly pisses me off.
Regards,
Ray.

HughMann said:

Hell, amongst lots of agony that must have caused a lot of anguish. Very hard not to do the bad karma thing and wish bad things on him. 🙁

Regarding the topic I suggest that we, the people on this forum, get prepared to bombard the media with our individual views on the matter, assuming that what is to come on 28th is as limp as what we have seen.

Adelaide Advertiser Letters to the Editor.

ABC Radio Adelaide Guest book down right side

More suggestions.

Just make sure that everyone knows this persons name and what he has done. I dont think that will affect his career.

Cheers
Hugh

Many thanks for the links, currently following up.

hippy said:

HUMBUG said:

Well _I've_ had a pretty good day in that a "better" class of idiot
tried to kill me. Apparently it was for my own good. Go figure. The
important discovery, for me anyway, was that Ferrari paint doesn't
stand up to cleats any better than BMW X5 paint and Ferrari doors ding
_/REALLY/_ easily. Much easier than BMW X5 doors...:-)

Ooh.. Ferrari.. how nice.. do tell.. 🙂

hippy

Do

Ray Peace said:

And look how they pulled up a convenient witness saying he was
`riding erratically'a metre from the kerb, as if he was somehow
responsible for his own murder. Always blame the victim, rapists have
got away with this for years, `She was asking for it'. Riding
erratically was probably dodgy the glass, potholes and other [censored] as
usual. Well and truly pisses me off.

Who was "The other witness".
Do the other witnesses place that witness at the scene?

<snip all>

sorry for not having time to read all posts, apologies if you've seen
this one already:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200504/s1346778.htm

Foley denies police under-resourced

South Australia's Police Minister says he is confident that police are
well-resourced despite evidence in the Eugene McGee trial that the
department was too short of staff to blood-test him.

McGee, a police prosecutor, has been found not guilty of death by
dangerous driving over the death of cyclist Ian Humphrey.

He has been found guilty of a lesser charge of driving without due
care.

The lawyer reported to police six-and-a-half hours after the accident
and was not required to submit to a blood test for alcohol.

Police told the court they were understaffed on the night, despite the
investigation being into a road death.

Minister Kevin Foley says he will ask for more information.

"I don't know the specifics and that's an officer giving evidence to
the court," he said.

"That's his assessment of the night but I have full confidence in the
way our police conduct these measures.

"The police force is very well-resourced and that'll be a matter for
discussion at a later date."

The Police Department is looking into staffing levels as part of an
investigation into the death of Mr Humphrey.

However, a staff member for the department could not say whether the
case has been referred to its internal investigation branch or which
police officer will be investigating.

McGee will be sentenced in the District Court at the end of the month.

"HUMBUG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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hippy wrote:

The lights turned green and he shot through and I turned right at
maccas thinking I'd seen the last of him. I had, until the roundabout
at Mt Alexander Rd. and Leake St. where I was intending to go straight
ahead into Glass St. AND in the middle of the correct lane when the
yellow f-thing came up beside me and pulled a left turn across my bows.
A _very_ satisfying swift kick to the door followed by a /HURRIED/
detour down Winifred St. into the park. Made me feel MUCH better...:-)

Humbug

Lovely. All I got was a shiny red 4WD (prossibly a Pajero... they all look
the same to me). A Ferrari ups the stakes 🙂

Me

Peter Signorini said:

Because he's a lawyer (= scum) and knows a few mates

http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,12872261%5E2682,00.html

Quoted message said:

Not happy, Gladys, not happy at all!

Bejesus that's depressing.

TimC wrote:

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followed by a HURRIED detour down Winifred St. into the park. Made
me feel MUCH better...:-)

Well done sir, well done 🙂

Perhaps. But with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight it was NOT very smart
was it ?? What other cars does he own that he can use to give ANY
cyclist a hard time with? Will he recognise me again or just assume
that ALL cyclists are violent towards cars? By kicking it I've
probably shat well and truly in a few cyclists nests around here...:-(

I would've done MUCH better to get a few names of witnesses and gone to
the police - it was after all deliberate and it's a BUSY corner and I
was SHOUTING at him so I had a fair bit of attention...:-)

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Humbug

On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:49:46 +1000, "HUMBUG" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

TimC wrote:

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

followed by a HURRIED detour down Winifred St. into the park. Made
me feel MUCH better...:-)

Well done sir, well done 🙂

Perhaps. But with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight it was NOT very smart
was it ?? What other cars does he own that he can use to give ANY
cyclist a hard time with? Will he recognise me again or just assume
that ALL cyclists are violent towards cars? By kicking it I've
probably shat well and truly in a few cyclists nests around here...:-(

I would've done MUCH better to get a few names of witnesses and gone to
the police - it was after all deliberate and it's a BUSY corner and I
was SHOUTING at him so I had a fair bit of attention...:-)

I was witness once to a particularly nasty bit of driving aimed at a
cyclist riding down Camberwell Rd (I think, it may have been
middleborough) and the cyclist in question got my name & address,
a few weeks later the local plod called me and asked me to go and
give them a statement on what I saw.

I don't know what happened in the end (I was never called to
be a witness at a court case etc) but the plod told me that
the most likely thing was that the offender - an idiot in a
blue falcadore who swerved very close to a bloke and then
slammed on his brakes in front of him - would get an offence notice
and probably plead guilty and get some fine or loss of licence for
dangerous driving.

So, it is worth getting witnesses and taking these [censored] to court.

Carl Brewer said:

On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:49:46 +1000, "HUMBUG" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I was witness once to a particularly nasty bit of driving aimed at a
cyclist riding down Camberwell Rd (I think, it may have been
middleborough) and the cyclist in question got my name & address, a
few weeks later the local plod called me and asked me to go and give
them a statement on what I saw.
I don't know what happened in the end (I was never called to be a
witness at a court case etc) but the plod told me that the most
likely thing was that the offender - an idiot in a blue falcadore
who swerved very close to a bloke and then slammed on his brakes in
front of him - would get an offence notice and probably plead guilty
and get some fine or loss of licence for dangerous driving.

Quoted message said:

So, it is worth getting witnesses and taking these [censored] to
court.

Problem is getting people who are prepared to go to court. My one experience of being a witness to a traffic incident was not overly pleasant. It took up a good chunk of time, I was accused by the defense council of being a liar and the end result was less than satisfactory.

Would I do it again? In a heart beat. I know my father-in-law wouldn't though.
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Cheers
Euan