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  1. I keep noticing (and in my naivete I continue to be
    astonished every time) by people here talking about going
    for a cycle, stopping at a pub, having a glass or two of
    beer and then carrying on cycling. I just could not do that.
    I will not cycle or drive for about eight hours after I've
    had any alcohol - the thought worries me silly. And yet,
    clearly, other people do it all the time...

    Do you feel it's responsible? Do you feel it's safe?

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke)
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  2. Simon Brooke said:

    I keep noticing (and in my naivete I continue to be
    astonished every time) by people here talking about going
    for a cycle, stopping at a pub, having a glass or two of
    beer and then carrying on cycling. I just could not do
    that. I will not cycle or drive for about eight hours
    after I've had any alcohol - the thought worries me silly.
    And yet, clearly, other people do it all the time...

    Do you feel it's responsible? Do you feel it's safe?

    I've never tried it. I think it would probably make me feel
    quite nauseous. Why break your rhythm just to sit in some
    dingy pub and down pints while breathing in other people's
    smoke, etc?

  3. Simon Brooke said:

    I keep noticing (and in my naivete I continue to be
    astonished every time) by people here talking about going
    for a cycle, stopping at a pub, having a glass or two of
    beer and then carrying on cycling. I just could not do
    that. I will not cycle or drive for about eight hours
    after I've had any alcohol - the thought worries me silly.
    And yet, clearly, other people do it all the time...

    Do you feel it's responsible? Do you feel it's safe?

    Nope, and nope. Alcohol dehydrates me, I have enough trouble
    staying hydrated on a ride as it is, and I avoid anything
    that does that *and* leads to pressing urges to dive into
    hedgerows full of prickly stinging plants.

    Not only that, but I need my skills as sharp as they can
    be on a bike at this stage of things - blunting them
    with alcohol's only going to end painfully in tears at
    some point :-)

    Personally, I can count on the fingers of one hand the
    number of times I've drunk *anything* and then driven, let
    alone as much as a pint or two, so there's no chance of me
    doing that then getting on a bike.

    Personally I'd like to see a complete bar on
    drinking/driving/cycling/operating machinery, but there's
    too many that would protest at that still. I just feel that
    if it impairs your judgement then it's a bit daft to then do
    something that puts both yourself and others at risk.

    --

    Velvet

  4. Quoted message said:

    I will not cycle or drive for about eight hours after I've
    had any alcohol - the thought worries me silly.

    You aren't the only one. I will not drink alcohol & drive
    and I won't drink alcohol & cycle. For both driving &
    cycling you need your wits about you.

    In the car I simply do not want to be responsible for
    injuring an innocent third party due to me being drunk and I
    simply do not want an innocent third party behind the
    steering wheel of a car to injure *me* if I am drunk and
    ride my bike into them. Nor do I want to drive or cycle into
    a ditch...

    Cheers, helen s

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  5. Simon Brooke said:

    I will not cycle or drive for about eight hours after I've
    had any alcohol

    <deliberate misunderstanding> I wouldn't go an an eight hour
    ride after alcohol, it just wouldn't work. </deliberate
    misunderstanding>

    I wouldn't drink more than a pint and drive (the driving
    would typically be several hours later anyway, and the
    drinking would always be with food). But I have no qualms
    about cycling after a couple of pints, or unicycling after a
    bit more than that. While obviously my judgment will be
    impaired by a couple of pints, I don't for a moment believe
    that it is sufficiently impaired to make me a hazard to
    myself or others.

    Your alcohol tolerance may vary. Mine certainly has. When I
    was a student I used to drink 5 pints before I started to
    feel anything, and most nights I drank a fair bit more than
    that. Nowadays 4 pints is about my limit (I'm no longer
    interested in getting ratarsed, just in enjoying a decent
    pint of beer).

    --
    Danny Colyer (the UK company has been laughed out of my
    reply address)
    <URL:http://www.speedy5.freeserve.co.uk/danny/> "He who
    dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine

  6. Simon Brooke said:

    I keep noticing (and in my naivete I continue to be
    astonished every time) by people here talking about going
    for a cycle, stopping at a pub, having a glass or two of
    beer and then carrying on cycling. I just could not do
    that. I will not cycle or drive for about eight hours
    after I've had any alcohol - the thought worries me silly.
    And yet, clearly, other people do it all the time...

    Do you feel it's responsible? Do you feel it's safe?

    Safe enough. Probably safer than many alternative methods of
    travel after drinking. A very large proportion of RTA-
    injured pedestrians have been drinking prior to the event.

    Why are you particularly worried about cycling while drunk?
    It's not like driving a car where there is (a) a
    significantly elevated risk to others and (b) a risk to your
    license (which in practice I'm sure is why most people don't
    drink and drive). I don't see how it is worse than walking.

    James
    --
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    toes of giants. ne.jphome

  7. "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I keep noticing (and in my naivete I continue to be
    astonished every time) by people here talking about going
    for a cycle, stopping at a pub, having a glass or two of
    beer and then carrying on cycling. I just could not do
    that. I will not cycle or drive for about eight hours
    after I've had any alcohol - the thought worries me silly.
    And yet, clearly, other people do it all the time...

    Do you feel it's responsible? Do you feel it's safe?

    I usually have a couple of bottles of bud with my lunch and
    then cycle the 3 miles back to work each day. This
    admittedly is only just over a pint, but I'm not sure I'd
    want to go with 3 buds!

  8. On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:35:03 GMT, Simon Brooke <[email hidden]>
    wrote (more or less):

    Quoted message said:

    I keep noticing (and in my naivete I continue to be
    astonished every time) by people here talking about going
    for a cycle, stopping at a pub, having a glass or two of
    beer and then carrying on cycling. I just could not do
    that. I will not cycle or drive for about eight hours after
    I've had any alcohol - the thought worries me silly. And
    yet, clearly, other people do it all the time...

    Do you feel it's responsible? Do you feel it's safe?

    Well, the effect of driving-legal quantities of alcohol
    on driving is similiar to the effect of having a cold/flu
    on driving.

    Do you ever cycle with the sniffles? Do you feel it's
    responsible? Do you feel it's safe?

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  9. "Adrian Boliston" wrote

    Quoted message said:

    I usually have a couple of bottles of bud with my lunch
    and then cycle the


    3

    Quoted message said:

    miles back to work each day. This admittedly is only just
    over a pint,


    but

    Quoted message said:

    I'm not sure I'd want to go with 3 buds!


    1. 2 bottles of Budweiser = 24 fluid ounce = 1 1/2 pints.
    Not exactly just over a pint, IMHO.

    2. I've noticed a definite impairment of my peripheral
    vision after one can of beer, not sure if I like the idea
    of cycling in traffic after two cans (or is your route
    traffic free?).

    3. I had to smile when I saw Budweiser being sold at premium
    prices in the UK.
    --
    mark

  10. On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:35:03 GMT, Simon Brooke <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    I keep noticing (and in my naivete I continue to be
    astonished every time) by people here talking about going
    for a cycle, stopping at a pub, having a glass or two of
    beer and then carrying on cycling. I just could not do
    that. I will not cycle or drive for about eight hours after
    I've had any alcohol - the thought worries me silly. And
    yet, clearly, other people do it all the time...

    Do you feel it's responsible? Do you feel it's safe?

    Drinking and cycling is not something I do often but up to
    about 3 pints (for me) seems to be OK. More than that and
    it's time for a taxi. I agree with Danny that walking is
    likely to be as hazardous as cycling after a real skinful.

    --
    Dave...

    Get a bicycle. You will not regret it. If you live. -
    Mark Twain

  11. "Adrian Boliston" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:l239r1-
    [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I keep noticing (and in my naivete I continue to be
    astonished every time) by people here talking about
    going for a cycle, stopping at a pub, having a glass or
    two of beer and then carrying on cycling. I just could
    not do that. I will not cycle or drive for about eight
    hours after I've had any alcohol - the thought worries
    me silly. And yet, clearly, other people do it all the
    time...

    Do you feel it's responsible? Do you feel it's safe?

    I usually have a couple of bottles of bud with my lunch
    and then cycle the


    3

    Quoted message said:

    miles back to work each day. This admittedly is only just
    over a pint,


    but

    Quoted message said:

    I'm not sure I'd want to go with 3 buds!

    I thought we were talking about beer?

    cheers, clive

  12. "mark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    3. I had to smile when I saw Budweiser being sold at
    premium prices in the UK.

    It's only 65p per 330ml bottle at sainsbury's.

  13. On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 22:57:40 +0100,

    Danny Colyer said:


    Your alcohol tolerance may vary. Mine certainly has. When
    I was a student I used to drink 5 pints before I started
    to feel anything, and most nights I drank a fair bit more
    than that. Nowadays 4 pints is about my limit (I'm no
    longer interested in getting ratarsed, just in enjoying a
    decent pint of beer).


    Alcohol tolerance is a strange thing. While not being a
    heavy drinker I will have one or two glasses of wine with my
    evening meal and not notice - except today I was practicing
    one of the Chopin Op.10 Etudes after tea and also trying to
    sightread some wierd pre-baroque stuff for my partner to
    sing. I could tell I had been drinking.

    So I'm not so sure it doesn't affect you, just that you
    don't (usually) notice the effects.

    Tim.

    --
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    = J + @D/@t," and there was light.

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  14. In "]news:[email hidden],
    mark <[email hidden]> typed:

    Quoted message said:

    "Adrian Boliston" wrote

    Quoted message said:

    I usually have a couple of bottles of bud with my lunch
    and then cycle the 3 miles back to work each day. This
    admittedly is only just over a pint, but I'm not sure I'd
    want to go with 3 buds!


    1. 2 bottles of Budweiser = 24 fluid ounce = 1 1/2 pints.
    Not exactly just over a pint, IMHO.

    For some values of pint.

    660ml = Just less than 1.2 pints.

    Quoted message said:

    3. I had to smile when I saw Budweiser being sold at
    premium prices in the UK.

    It's just a brand. Nobody thinks its special just because
    it's American.

    A

  15. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by Ambrose Nankive
    In "]news:[email hidden],
    mark <[email hidden]> typed:

    Quoted message said:

    "Adrian Boliston" wrote

    Quoted message said:

    I usually have a couple of bottles of bud with my lunch
    and then cycle the 3 miles back to work each day. This
    admittedly is only just over a pint, but I'm not sure I'd
    want to go with 3 buds!


    1. 2 bottles of Budweiser = 24 fluid ounce = 1 1/2 pints.
    Not exactly just over a pint, IMHO.



    For some values of pint.

    660ml = Just less than 1.2 pints.

    Quoted message said:

    3. I had to smile when I saw Budweiser being sold at
    premium prices in the UK.



    It's just a brand. Nobody thinks its special just because
    it's American.

    A

    Bud is [censored] anyway,nothing beats a guiness!

  16. Upon the miasma of midnight, a darkling spirit identified as Simon
    Brooke <[email hidden]> gently breathed:

    Quoted message said:

    I keep noticing (and in my naivete I continue to be
    astonished every time) by people here talking about going
    for a cycle, stopping at a pub, having a glass or two of
    beer and then carrying on cycling. I just could not do
    that. I will not cycle or drive for about eight hours after
    I've had any alcohol - the thought worries me silly. And
    yet, clearly, other people do it all the time...

    Do you feel it's responsible? Do you feel it's safe?

    Depends on the individual, and their alcohol tolerance.
    Cycling while drunk isn't as dangerous to others as driving
    in the same state, and having just a pint or two isn't going
    to make most people drunk anyway.

    Plus it's quite possible to go to a pub for the social
    interaction without drinking anything alcoholic, fruit juice
    tends to be no more expensive than beer unless you're
    unlucky enough to find a place that still sells it in those
    daft little mixer bottles. Most places I go to serve
    supermarket carton pure juice into pint glasses, and while
    they may be making 100% mark-up on it I'm happy to pay 1.50
    to 2quid a pint for it, same as beer plus healthy.

    NP: Bruce Dickenson - Tears Of The Dragon.
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  17. "mark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Adrian Boliston" wrote

    Quoted message said:

    I usually have a couple of bottles of bud with my lunch
    and then cycle


    the

    Quoted message said:

    3

    Quoted message said:

    miles back to work each day. This admittedly is only
    just over a pint,


    but

    Quoted message said:

    I'm not sure I'd want to go with 3 buds!


    1. 2 bottles of Budweiser = 24 fluid ounce = 1 1/2 pints.
    Not exactly just over a pint, IMHO.

    Nah, it's 1 1/5 pints - 20floz to the pint over here...

    cheers, clive

  18. Simon Brooke said:

    I keep noticing (and in my naivete I continue to be
    astonished every time) by people here talking about going
    for a cycle, stopping at a pub, having a glass or two of
    beer and then carrying on cycling. I just could not do
    that. I will not cycle or drive for about eight hours
    after I've had any alcohol - the thought worries me silly.
    And yet, clearly, other people do it all the time...

    Do you feel it's responsible? Do you feel it's safe?

    I've never cycled after drinking enough to be over the limit
    if driving a car. But the 2 occasions when I have had a pint
    before cycling, I've forgotten to turn my rear light on
    despite feeling completely unimpaired.

    I don't drink & cycle any more.

    AC

  19. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Simon Brooke said:

    Do you feel it's responsible? Do you feel it's safe?

    I have no problem with it.

    It is different to driving: the exercise/circulation helps
    keep a clear head, and - even more to the point - being out
    in the open air rather than isolated from it helps with
    awareness of what's going on and alertness to anything
    unusual happening - and hence to hazards. I should say I'm
    as safe cycling on three pints (which I very rarely drink)
    as driving on one pint (which I commonly drink).

    Once in my life I've cycled while so sozzled as to have
    seriously reduced control - as I found out when I was unable
    to turn right without getting off! But that being at about
    3a.m. there was so little traffic I was able to get off and
    stand still whenever a potential hazard (car) approached. As
    for driving, that one pint (of something below-average
    strength) is my strict limit.

    --
    Nick Kew

  20. "mark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    1. 2 bottles of Budweiser = 24 fluid ounce = 1 1/2 pints.

    Not in uk.rec.cycling it isn't.

    Quoted message said:

    2. I've noticed a definite impairment of my peripheral
    vision after one can of beer, not sure if I like the
    idea of cycling in traffic after two cans (or is your
    route traffic free?).

    But would you rather walk to the bus stop, or stand at the
    edge of a train platform, including the late-night risk of
    assault etc?

    James

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