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A . B . Chung F · 2004-05-04T07:28:48+00:00

--------------------------------- | The Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD FAQ | | Version 3.77, May, 2004 | --------------------------------- Introduction ------------ New people arriving in sci.med.cardiology (s.m.c.) are often puzzled and troubled by the vitriol directed at Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD (Dr. Chung) and want to better understand the reasons for the hatred that some folks have for him. This FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) does provide some truthful answers (there are versions of this FAQ put out by detractors that are useful only for comparison purposes). All answers given herein can be independently verified either via Google or by using the third-party resources at http://www.heartmdphd.com/profile.asp. This FAQ has been posted in the past in a manner that permits authentication. The veracity of both the posting email address and domain name can be independently confirmed via Google (http://makeashorterlink.com/?G5EF42A77). The FAQ is arranged in typical FAQ form, i.e. a series of questions followed by simple truthful answers. For those who don't wish to read the whole FAQ, the following summary is provided. Summary ------- Ds. Chung is a well-respected licensed cardiologist, who is board-certified in internal medicine and cardiology (cardiovascular medicine). In this capacity, he responds truthfully to medical questions on s.m.c.(http://makeashorterlink.com/?Y20826ED7) He does this out of sincere altruism when he has spare time outside his private cardiology practice, where he sees patients as a cardiologist. If that was all he were, there would probably be no controversy. The controversy arises from Dr. Chung being Christian, in particular: o He continues to publicly profess that Christ is his Lord and Savior. o He freely helps people to lose weight in an altruistic Christian fashion (http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp). o When attacked on the above issues, he turns the other cheek in a Christian manner. o When challenged about his faith in Christ, he witnesses steadfastly without hatred (http://makeashorterlink.com/?A5B9214A7). o When insulted for his faith in Christ, he openly calls it a blessing. o He remains truthful, as a servant of Christ, despite being libeled and defamed (http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp). o Other Christians have affirmed Dr. Chung's strong faith in Christ. The above lists only the highlights of Dr. Chung's Christian behavior on s.m.c. If anything, it understates it. Everything can be verified in the Google archives. He witnesses to all at http://www.heartmdphd.com/healer.asp. People arrive in this group looking for help. Dr. Chung has graciously provided this over several years (http://makeashorterlink.com/?H10A13167). Dr. Chung consistently demonstrates the breadth of his knowledge and experience. This is archived many times over in Google. List of Questions Answered -------------------------- 1. Who is Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD? 2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.? 3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the Charter? 4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with that? 5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature. 6. But I'm a Christian Too! 7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature? 8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free medical information out of the goodness of his heart? 9. How does a cardiologist have so much time to spend on Usenet? 10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away? 11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those who challenge Dr. Chung? 12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks? 13. I'm sick of seeing all this! 14. What is the Two Pound Diet? 15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"? 16. Who is Mu? 17. What is Mu's role? 18. Who is Steve? 19. What is Steve's role? 20. Who is Bob? 21. What is Bob's role? 22. Who is Stephen? 23. What is Stephen's role? 24. Is this spam? 25. Who is the author of this FAQ? 26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as some allege? 27. Are Mu, John, CarolT, and Dr. Chung the same person as some allege? 28. Who is Dr. Andrew B Chung, MD/PhD? ------------------------------------- Dt. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD is a licensed doubly board- certified cardiologist practicing cardiovascular medicine in Atlanta, Georgia, USA. His signature contains a link to http://www.heartmdphd.com, which is consistent with his posts and qualifications. 2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.? --------------------------------- The purpose of this newsgroup is to establish electronic media for communication between health care providers, scientists and other individuals with interest in the cardiovascular field. Such communications will provide quick and efficacious means to exchange information and knowledge, and offer problems to solutions. The sci.med.cardiology newsgroup will welcome participants who are health care providers, trainees, researchers, students or recipients with interest in the field of cardiovascular problems." (ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/sci/sci.me- d.cardiology) 3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the charter? ------------------------------------------------------- They are if these discussions represent "communication between health care providers, scientists and other individuals with interest in the cardiovascular field." It should be noted that Christ remains a healthcare provider (http://www.heartmdphd.com/healer.asp), who has demonstrated an interest in the cardiovascular field when He "resuscitated" Lazarus. 4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with that? ------------------------------------------------------------ - Some people are fiercely anti-christian. 5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature, isn't it? ------------------------------------------------------ ---------- Yes it is. But it offends those who are anti-christian. 6. But I'm a Christian too! Should I worry? ------------------------------------------- No. You have Christ's promise of eternal life and the unimaginable riches of God's kingdom. 7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature? -------------------------------------------------- Anti-christians are unable to do that. 8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free medical information out of the goodness of his heart? ---------------------------------------------------------- God is wonderful. 9. How does a cardiologist have so much time to spend on Usenet? ------------------------------------------------------ ---------- God makes time for those whom He blesses. 10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away? -------------------------------------------------- Do not concern yourself with the free will of others. 11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those who challenge Dr. Chung? ------------------------------------------------------------ -- God uses anti-christians for His purposes. These posts are according to His will. 12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks? ---------------------------------------------- This is how anti-christian folks are identified so they can be culled from His flock. 13. I'm sick of seeing all this! ------------------------------- Not really a question unless you ask yourself "why?" 14. What is the Two Pound Diet (TPD) approach? ---------------------------------------------- See: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp 15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"? --------------------------------------------------- Yes. It cures Metabolic Syndrome (MetS) which is a condition that leads to higher rates of heart attacks and strokes. 16. Who is Mu? -------------- A Christian (http://makeashorterlink.com/?S5A631E57). 17. What is Mu's role? ---------------------- To serve God's will and purpose. 18. Who is Steve? ----------------- An anti-christian (http://makeashorterlink.com/?A20055A37). He authors the untrue versions of this FAQ (http://makeashorterlink.com/?S10252097). 19. What is Steve's role? ------------------------- To serve God's will and purpose. 20. Who is Bob? --------------- A food worshipper (http://makeashorterlink.com/?T48662E57). He is obsessively drawn to the 2PD approach (http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp). He is also obsessed with this FAQ (http://makeashorterlink.com/?R2C134097) and can be seen writing to himself about it. 21. What is Bob's role? ----------------------- To serve God's will and purpose. 22. Who is Stephen? ------------------- A *retired* doctor (http://makeashorterlink.com/?M15151A28) who believes that "Jesus is no more the Messiah than Elvis Presley" (http://makeashorterlink.com/?J1B623B67). He is so taken with Dr. Chung's Christian beliefs that he is now a cyberstalker (http://makeashorterlink.com/?Y25611B67) by his own admitted actions. In his continued cyberstalking of Dr. Chung, he has learned that Dr. Chung has a long history of reporting those who would willfully trespass against others (http://makeashorterlink.com/?V28141097). A few words to the wise can be found at http://www.heartmdphd.com/stalking.asp in this regard. 23. What is Stephen's role? --------------------------- To serve God's will and purpose. 24. Is this spam? ----------------- No, this is a FAQ. 25. Who is the author of this FAQ? ---------------------------------- There are multiple contributors and they choose to remain anonymous although they respect Dr. Chung's choice not to be anonymous. 26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as some allege? ----------------------------------------------------------- ---------- No. Spam on Usenet are stand-alone advertisements and not unique responses to the posts of others. 27. Are Mu, John, CarolT, and Dr. Chung the same person as some allege? ------------------------------------------------------------ ----------- No. Mu, John, CarolT, and Andrew are 4 distinctly different Christian individuals. Comments and/or corrections to this FAQ will be taken under advisement via [email hidden].

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A . B . Chung F
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4 May 2004, 07:28 UTC #1

---------------------------------
| The Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD FAQ |
| Version 3.77, May, 2004 |
---------------------------------
Introduction
------------
New people arriving in sci.med.cardiology (s.m.c.) are often
puzzled and troubled by the vitriol directed at Dr. Andrew
B. Chung, MD/PhD
(Dr. Chung) and want to better understand the reasons for
the hatred that some folks have for him. This FAQ
(Frequently Asked Questions) does provide some truthful
answers (there are versions of this FAQ put out by
detractors that are useful only for comparison
purposes). All answers given herein can be
independently verified either via Google or by using
the third-party resources at
heartmdphd.comprofile.asp. This FAQ has
been posted in the past in a manner that permits
authentication. The veracity of both the posting email
address and domain name can be independently confirmed
via Google (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
The FAQ is arranged in typical FAQ form, i.e. a series of
questions followed by simple truthful answers. For those
who don't wish to read the whole FAQ, the following summary
is provided.
Summary
-------
Ds. Chung is a well-respected licensed cardiologist, who is
board-certified in internal medicine and cardiology
(cardiovascular medicine). In this capacity, he responds
truthfully to medical questions on
s.m.c.(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) He does
this out of sincere altruism when he has spare time
outside his private cardiology practice, where he sees
patients as a cardiologist. If that was all he were,
there would probably be no controversy.
The controversy arises from Dr. Chung being Christian, in
particular:
o He continues to publicly profess that Christ is his Lord
and Savior.
o He freely helps people to lose weight in an altruistic
Christian fashion (heartmdphd.comwtloss.asp).
o When attacked on the above issues, he turns the other
cheek in a Christian manner.
o When challenged about his faith in Christ, he witnesses
steadfastly without hatred
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
o When insulted for his faith in Christ, he openly calls it
a blessing.
o He remains truthful, as a servant of Christ, despite being
libeled and defamed (heartmdphd.comlibel.asp).
o Other Christians have affirmed Dr. Chung's strong faith
in Christ.
The above lists only the highlights of Dr. Chung's Christian
behavior on s.m.c. If anything, it understates it.
Everything can be verified in the Google archives. He
witnesses to all at heartmdphd.comhealer.asp.
People arrive in this group looking for help. Dr. Chung has
graciously provided this over several years
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). Dr. Chung
consistently demonstrates the breadth of his knowledge and
experience. This is archived many times over in Google.
List of Questions Answered
--------------------------
1. Who is Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD?
2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the Charter?
4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem
with that?
5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature.
6. But I'm a Christian Too!
7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free
medical information out of the goodness of his heart?
9. How does a cardiologist have so much time to spend
on Usenet?
10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those
who challenge Dr. Chung?
12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks?
13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
14. What is the Two Pound Diet?
15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"?
16. Who is Mu?
17. What is Mu's role?
18. Who is Steve?
19. What is Steve's role?
20. Who is Bob?
21. What is Bob's role?
22. Who is Stephen?
23. What is Stephen's role?
24. Is this spam?
25. Who is the author of this FAQ?
26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as
some allege?
27. Are Mu, John, CarolT, and Dr. Chung the same person as
some allege?
28. Who is Dr. Andrew B Chung, MD/PhD?
-------------------------------------
Dt. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD is a licensed doubly board-
certified cardiologist practicing cardiovascular
medicine in Atlanta, Georgia, USA. His signature
contains a link to heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com, which is
consistent with his posts and qualifications.
2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
---------------------------------
The purpose of this newsgroup is to establish electronic
media for communication between health care providers,
scientists and other individuals with interest in the
cardiovascular field. Such communications will provide quick
and efficacious means to exchange information and knowledge,
and offer problems to solutions.
The sci.med.cardiology newsgroup will welcome participants
who are health care providers, trainees, researchers,
students or recipients with interest in the field of
cardiovascular problems."
(ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/sci/sci.me-
d.cardiology)
3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the charter?
-------------------------------------------------------
They are if these discussions represent "communication
between health care providers, scientists and other
individuals with interest in the cardiovascular field." It
should be noted that Christ remains a healthcare provider
(heartmdphd.comhealer.asp), who has demonstrated
an interest in the cardiovascular field when He
"resuscitated" Lazarus.
4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem
with that?
------------------------------------------------------------
-
Some people are fiercely anti-christian.
5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his
signature, isn't it?
------------------------------------------------------
----------
Yes it is. But it offends those who are anti-christian.
6. But I'm a Christian too! Should I worry?
-------------------------------------------
No. You have Christ's promise of eternal life and the
unimaginable riches of God's kingdom.
7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
--------------------------------------------------
Anti-christians are unable to do that.
8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free
medical information out of the goodness of his heart?
----------------------------------------------------------
God is wonderful.
9. How does a cardiologist have so much time to spend
on Usenet?
------------------------------------------------------
----------
God makes time for those whom He blesses.
10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
--------------------------------------------------
Do not concern yourself with the free will of others.
11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those
who challenge Dr. Chung?
------------------------------------------------------------
--
God uses anti-christians for His purposes. These posts are
according to His will.
12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks?
----------------------------------------------
This is how anti-christian folks are identified so they can
be culled from His flock.
13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
-------------------------------
Not really a question unless you ask yourself "why?"
14. What is the Two Pound Diet (TPD) approach?
----------------------------------------------
See: heartmdphd.comwtloss.asp
15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"?
---------------------------------------------------
Yes. It cures Metabolic Syndrome (MetS) which is a condition
that leads to higher rates of heart attacks and strokes.
16. Who is Mu?
--------------
A Christian (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
17. What is Mu's role?
----------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
18. Who is Steve?
-----------------
An anti-christian (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
He authors the untrue versions of this FAQ
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
19. What is Steve's role?
-------------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
20. Who is Bob?
---------------
A food worshipper (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
He is obsessively drawn to the 2PD approach
(heartmdphd.comlibel.asp). He is also obsessed
with this FAQ (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) and
can be seen writing to himself about it.
21. What is Bob's role?
-----------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
22. Who is Stephen?
-------------------
A *retired* doctor (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com)
who believes that "Jesus is no more the Messiah than Elvis
Presley" (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He is so
taken with Dr. Chung's Christian beliefs that he is now a
cyberstalker (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) by his
own admitted actions. In his continued cyberstalking of Dr.
Chung, he has learned that Dr. Chung has a long history of
reporting those who would willfully trespass against others
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). A few words to the
wise can be found at heartmdphd.comstalking.asp
in this regard.
23. What is Stephen's role?
---------------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
24. Is this spam?
-----------------
No, this is a FAQ.
25. Who is the author of this FAQ?
----------------------------------
There are multiple contributors and they choose to remain
anonymous although they respect Dr. Chung's choice not to be
anonymous.
26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as
some allege?
-----------------------------------------------------------
----------
No. Spam on Usenet are stand-alone advertisements and not
unique responses to the posts of others.
27. Are Mu, John, CarolT, and Dr. Chung the same person as
some allege?
------------------------------------------------------------
-----------
No. Mu, John, CarolT, and Andrew are 4 distinctly different
Christian individuals.
Comments and/or corrections to this FAQ will be taken under
advisement via [email hidden].

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Stephen Nagler
Archived post

4 May 2004, 07:29 UTC #2

A. B. Chung FAQ said:
22. Who is Stephen?
-------------------
A *retired* doctor (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com)
who believes that "Jesus is no more the Messiah than Elvis
Presley" (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He is so
taken with Dr. Chung's Christian beliefs that he is now a
cyberstalker (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) by
his own admitted actions. In his continued cyberstalking of
Dr. Chung, he has learned that Dr. Chung has a long history
of reporting those who would willfully trespass against
others (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). A few
words to the wise can be found at
heartmdphd.comstalking.asp in this regard.
23. What is Stephen's role?
---------------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
..........................
Dr. Chung:
Once again.
Regarding matters of medicine and religion, last week I
agreed not to address you and not to refer to you on this
newsgroup.
I will expect you to show me the same courtesy.
stephen nagler

Report
terri231
Archived post

4 May 2004, 07:29 UTC #3

On Sun, 02 May 2004 18:47:55 GMT, Stephen Nagler <[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:
A. B. Chung FAQ said:
22. Who is Stephen?
-------------------
A *retired* doctor
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) who believes that
"Jesus is no more the Messiah than Elvis Presley"
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He is so taken
with Dr. Chung's Christian beliefs that he is now a
cyberstalker (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) by
his own admitted actions. In his continued cyberstalking
of Dr. Chung, he has learned that Dr. Chung has a long
history of reporting those who would willfully trespass
against others (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). A
few words to the wise can be found at
heartmdphd.comstalking.asp in this regard.
23. What is Stephen's role?
---------------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
..........................
Dr. Chung:
Once again.
Regarding matters of medicine and religion, last week I
agreed not to address you and not to refer to you on this
newsgroup.
I will expect you to show me the same courtesy.
stephen nagler
Then why are you addressing him?
Terri

Report
Dr. Andrew B. C
Archived post

4 May 2004, 07:29 UTC #4

Quoted message said:
Stephen Nagler said:
A. B. Chung FAQ said:
22. Who is Stephen?
-------------------
A *retired* doctor
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) who believes
that "Jesus is no more the Messiah than Elvis Presley"
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He is so taken
with Dr. Chung's Christian beliefs that he is now a
cyberstalker (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) by
his own admitted actions. In his continued cyberstalking
of Dr. Chung, he has learned that Dr. Chung has a long
history of reporting those who would willfully trespass
against others (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
A few words to the wise can be found at
heartmdphd.comstalking.asp in this regard.
23. What is Stephen's role?
---------------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
..........................
Dr. Chung:
Once again.
Regarding matters of medicine and religion, last week I
agreed not to address you and not to refer to you on this
newsgroup.
I will expect you to show me the same courtesy.
stephen nagler
Then why are you addressing him?
Terri
In two words:
Religious Obsession.
Stephen remains in my prayers to God, in Christ's name.
Servant to the humblest person in the universe,
Andrew
--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com
**
Who is the humblest person in the universe?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com
What is all this about?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com
Is this spam?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

Report
Fox
Archived post

4 May 2004, 07:30 UTC #5

x-no-archive: yes "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<[email hidden]> wrote in message
<snip>
Quoted message said:
Stephen remains in my prayers to God, in Christ's name.
I think what Stephen means here is that he doesn't
like/appreciate you praying for him. But you choose to still
pray for him. I think Stephen might get infuriated now.

Report
Dr. Andrew B. C
Archived post

8 May 2004, 04:03 UTC #6

A. B. Chung FAQ <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
---------------------------------
| The Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD FAQ |
| Version 3.77, May, 2004 |
---------------------------------
Introduction
------------
New people arriving in sci.med.cardiology (s.m.c.) are
often puzzled and troubled by the vitriol directed at Dr.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
(Dr. Chung) and want to better understand the reasons for
the hatred that some folks have for him. This FAQ
(Frequently Asked Questions) does provide some
truthful answers (there are versions of this FAQ put
out by detractors that are useful only for comparison
purposes). All answers given herein can be
independently verified either via Google or by using
the third-party resources at
heartmdphd.comprofile.asp. This FAQ has
been posted in the past in a manner that permits
authentication. The veracity of both the posting
email address and domain name can be independently
confirmed via Google
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
The FAQ is arranged in typical FAQ form, i.e. a series of
questions followed by simple truthful answers. For those
who don't wish to read the whole FAQ, the following
summary is provided.
Summary
-------
Dr. Chung is a well-respected licensed cardiologist, who
is board-certified in internal medicine and cardiology
(cardiovascular medicine). In this capacity, he
responds truthfully to medical questions on
s.m.c.(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) He does
this out of sincere altruism when he has spare time
outside his private cardiology practice, where he sees
patients as a cardiologist. If that was all he were,
there would probably be no controversy.
The controversy arises from Dr. Chung being Christian, in
particular:
o He continues to publicly profess that Christ is his Lord
and Savior.
o He freely helps people to lose weight in an altruistic
Christian fashion (heartmdphd.comwtloss.asp).
o When attacked on the above issues, he turns the other
cheek in a Christian manner.
o When challenged about his faith in Christ, he witnesses
steadfastly without hatred
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
o When insulted for his faith in Christ, he openly calls
it a blessing.
o He remains truthful, as a servant of Christ, despite
being libeled and defamed
(heartmdphd.comlibel.asp).
o Other Christians have affirmed Dr. Chung's strong faith
in Christ.
The above lists only the highlights of Dr. Chung's
Christian behavior on s.m.c. If anything, it understates
it. Everything can be verified in the Google archives. He
witnesses to all at heartmdphd.comhealer.asp.
People arrive in this group looking for help. Dr. Chung
has graciously provided this over several years
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). Dr. Chung
consistently demonstrates the breadth of his knowledge and
experience. This is archived many times over in Google.
List of Questions Answered
--------------------------
1. Who is Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD?
2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the Charter?
4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with
that?
5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature.
6. But I'm a Christian Too!
7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free
medical information out of the goodness of his heart?
9. How does a cardiologist have so much time to spend on
Usenet?
10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those
who challenge Dr. Chung?
12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks?
13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
14. What is the Two Pound Diet?
15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"?
16. Who is Mu?
17. What is Mu's role?
18. Who is Steve?
19. What is Steve's role?
20. Who is Bob?
21. What is Bob's role?
22. Who is Stephen?
23. What is Stephen's role?
24. Is this spam?
25. Who is the author of this FAQ?
26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as
some allege?
27. Are Mu, John, CarolT, and Dr. Chung the same person as
some allege?
1. Who is Dr. Andrew B Chung, MD/PhD?
-------------------------------------
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD is a licensed doubly board-
certified cardiologist practicing cardiovascular
medicine in Atlanta, Georgia, USA. His signature
contains a link to heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com, which is
consistent with his posts and qualifications.
2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
---------------------------------
The purpose of this newsgroup is to establish electronic
media for communication between health care providers,
scientists and other individuals with interest in the
cardiovascular field. Such communications will provide
quick and efficacious means to exchange information and
knowledge, and offer problems to solutions.
The sci.med.cardiology newsgroup will welcome participants
who are health care providers, trainees, researchers,
students or recipients with interest in the field of
cardiovascular problems."
(ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/sci/sci.-
med.cardiology)
3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the charter?
-------------------------------------------------------
They are if these discussions represent "communication
between health care providers, scientists and other
individuals with interest in the cardiovascular field." It
should be noted that Christ remains a healthcare provider
(heartmdphd.comhealer.asp), who has
demonstrated an interest in the cardiovascular field when
He "resuscitated" Lazarus.
4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with
that?
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Some people are fiercely anti-christian.
5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature,
isn't it?
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Yes it is. But it offends those who are anti-christian.
6. But I'm a Christian too! Should I worry?
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No. You have Christ's promise of eternal life and the
unimaginable riches of God's kingdom.
7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
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Anti-christians are unable to do that.
8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free
medical information out of the goodness of his heart?
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God is wonderful.
9. How does a cardiologist have so much time to spend on
Usenet?
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God makes time for those whom He blesses.
10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
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Do not concern yourself with the free will of others.
11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those
who challenge Dr. Chung?
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God uses anti-christians for His purposes. These posts are
according to His will.
12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks?
----------------------------------------------
This is how anti-christian folks are identified so they
can be culled from His flock.
13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
-------------------------------
Not really a question unless you ask yourself "why?"
14. What is the Two Pound Diet (TPD) approach?
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See: heartmdphd.comwtloss.asp
15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"?
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Yes. It cures Metabolic Syndrome (MetS) which is a
condition that leads to higher rates of heart attacks and
strokes.
16. Who is Mu?
--------------
A Christian (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
17. What is Mu's role?
----------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
18. Who is Steve?
-----------------
An anti-christian
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He authors the
untrue versions of this FAQ
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
19. What is Steve's role?
-------------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
20. Who is Bob?
---------------
A food worshipper
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He is
obsessively drawn to the 2PD approach
(heartmdphd.comlibel.asp). He is also obsessed
with this FAQ (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) and
can be seen writing to himself about it.
21. What is Bob's role?
-----------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
22. Who is Stephen?
-------------------
A *retired* doctor
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) who believes that
"Jesus is no more the Messiah than Elvis Presley"
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He is so taken
with Dr. Chung's Christian beliefs that he is now a
cyberstalker (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) by
his own admitted actions. In his continued cyberstalking
of Dr. Chung, he has learned that Dr. Chung has a long
history of reporting those who would willfully trespass
against others (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). A
few words to the wise can be found at
heartmdphd.comstalking.asp in this regard.
23. What is Stephen's role?
---------------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
24. Is this spam?
-----------------
No, this is a FAQ.
25. Who is the author of this FAQ?
----------------------------------
There are multiple contributors and they choose to remain
anonymous although they respect Dr. Chung's choice not to
be anonymous.
26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as
some allege?
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No. Spam on Usenet are stand-alone advertisements and not
unique responses to the posts of others.
27. Are Mu, John, CarolT, and Dr. Chung the same person as
some allege?
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No. Mu, John, CarolT, and Andrew are 4 distinctly
different Christian individuals.
Comments and/or corrections to this FAQ will be taken
under advisement via [email hidden].
All praises belong to my Lord and Savior :-)
Eventually *all* knees will bend and *all* heads will bow
before Him.
Servant to the humblest person in the universe,
Andrew
--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com
**
Who is the humblest person in the universe?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com
What is all this about?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com
Is this spam?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

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Stephen Nagler
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8 May 2004, 04:03 UTC #7

On 4 May 2004 06:02:25 -0700, [email hidden] (Dr. Andrew B.
Chung said:
Quoted message said:
22. Who is Stephen?
-------------------
A *retired* doctor
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) who believes
that "Jesus is no more the Messiah than Elvis Presley"
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He is so taken
with Dr. Chung's Christian beliefs that he is now a
cyberstalker (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) by
his own admitted actions. In his continued cyberstalking
of Dr. Chung, he has learned that Dr. Chung has a long
history of reporting those who would willfully trespass
against others (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
A few words to the wise can be found at
heartmdphd.comstalking.asp in this regard.
23. What is Stephen's role?
---------------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
................
Dr. Chung -
I have asked you on several occasions not to make reference
to my religious beliefs.
I have agreed upon request of a mutually interested third
party, a party that *YOU* called in to this matter, not to
post in response to you regarding religious or medical
issues or even post with reference to you on religious or
medical issues.
You made the same agreement with that mutually interested
third party.
I have upheld my part of the agreement. You have not.
In intend to continue to uphold my part of the agreement.
Whatever you do from here on out is (as it always has been)
- as you say - a matter of free will.
Take care of yourself, Andrew.
Regretfully,
stephen nagler

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terri231
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8 May 2004, 04:03 UTC #8

On Tue, 04 May 2004 13:30:26 GMT, Stephen Nagler <[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:
On 4 May 2004 06:02:25 -0700, [email hidden] (Dr.
Andrew B. Chung said:
Quoted message said:
22. Who is Stephen?
-------------------
A *retired* doctor
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) who believes
that "Jesus is no more the Messiah than Elvis Presley"
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He is so taken
with Dr. Chung's Christian beliefs that he is now a
cyberstalker (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) by
his own admitted actions. In his continued cyberstalking
of Dr. Chung, he has learned that Dr. Chung has a long
history of reporting those who would willfully trespass
against others (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
A few words to the wise can be found at
heartmdphd.comstalking.asp in this regard.
23. What is Stephen's role?
---------------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
................
Dr. Chung -
I have asked you on several occasions not to make reference
to my religious beliefs.
I have agreed upon request of a mutually interested third
party, a party that *YOU* called in to this matter, not to
post in response to you regarding religious or medical
issues or even post with reference to you on religious or
medical issues.
You made the same agreement with that mutually interested
third party.
I have upheld my part of the agreement. You have not.
In intend to continue to uphold my part of the agreement.
Whatever you do from here on out is (as it always has been)
- as you say - a matter of free will.
Take care of yourself, Andrew.
Regretfully,
stephen nagler
The quotes in this FAQ are your own comments. Are you saying
you don't want to be reminded about the remarks you have
made about religion, you didn't mean them, or are you hoping
everyone will just forget about the things you said?
Terri

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Rolando
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8 May 2004, 04:04 UTC #9

[email hidden] wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
Stephen Nagler said:
A. B. Chung FAQ said:
22. Who is Stephen?
-------------------
(see above)
23. What is Stephen's role?
---------------------------
(see above)
..........................
Dr. Chung:
Once again.
Regarding matters of medicine and religion, last week I
agreed not to address you and not to refer to you on this
newsgroup.
I will expect you to show me the same courtesy.
stephen nagler
Very polite response. So far a one-sided detente?
Quoted message said:

Then why are you addressing him?
Terri

Oh, Terri, look again. N said that he would not address C
on "matters of medicine and religion." He also said that
he would not refer to him. Here he was addressing
addressing him. And since he was addressing him, he was
not referring to him.
Rolando

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Dr. Andrew B. C
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8 May 2004, 04:04 UTC #10

Quoted message said:

Stephen Nagler said:
On 4 May 2004 06:02:25 -0700, [email hidden] (Dr.
Andrew B. Chung said:
> 22. Who is Stephen?
> -------------------
> A *retired* doctor
> (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) who believes
> that "Jesus is no more the Messiah than Elvis Presley"
> (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He is so
> taken with Dr. Chung's Christian beliefs that he is
> now a cyberstalker
> (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) by his own
> admitted actions. In his continued cyberstalking of
> Dr. Chung, he has learned that Dr. Chung has a long
> history of reporting those who would willfully
> trespass against others
> (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). A few words
> to the wise can be found at
> heartmdphd.comstalking.asp in this regard.
>
> 23. What is Stephen's role?
> ---------------------------
> To serve God's will and purpose.
................
Dr. Chung -
I have asked you on several occasions not to make
reference to my religious beliefs.
I have agreed upon request of a mutually interested third
party, a party that *YOU* called in to this matter, not
to post in response to you regarding religious or medical
issues or even post with reference to you on religious or
medical issues.
You made the same agreement with that mutually interested
third party.
I have upheld my part of the agreement. You have not.
In intend to continue to uphold my part of the agreement.
Whatever you do from here on out is (as it always has
been) - as you say - a matter of free will.
Take care of yourself, Andrew.
Regretfully,
stephen nagler
The quotes in this FAQ are your own comments. Are you
saying you don't want to be reminded about the remarks
you have made about religion, you didn't mean them, or
are you hoping everyone will just forget about the things
you said?
Terri
It would seem that you are still using the gift of truth
discernment that God has given you :-)
Servant to the humblest person in the universe,
Andrew
--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com
**
Who is the humblest person in the universe?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com
What is all this about?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com
Is this spam?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

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Rolando
Archived post

8 May 2004, 04:04 UTC #11

[email hidden] wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
Stephen Nagler said:
On 4 May 2004 06:02:25 -0700, [email hidden] (Dr.
Andrew B. Chung said:
> 22. Who is Stephen? (see above)
>
> 23. What is Stephen's role?
> ---------------------------
> (see above)
................
Dr. Chung -
I have asked you on several occasions not to make
reference to my religious beliefs.
I have agreed upon request of a mutually interested third
party, a party that *YOU* called in to this matter, not
to post in response to you regarding religious or medical
issues or even post with reference to you on religious or
medical issues.
You made the same agreement with that mutually interested
third party.
I have upheld my part of the agreement. You have not.
In intend to continue to uphold my part of the agreement.
Whatever you do from here on out is (as it always has
been) - as you say - a matter of free will.
Take care of yourself, Andrew.
Regretfully,
stephen nagler
The quotes in this FAQ are your own comments. Are you
saying you don't want to be reminded about the remarks
you have made about religion, you didn't mean them, or
are you hoping everyone will just forget about the things
you said?
Terri
Only my opinion, but it's kind of sleazy to keep slinging
around N's opinions, which he had agreed not to discuss
anymore ( I think that's what he's agreed to). Since he
isn't going to discuss them anymore he may feel that he
can't comment on the context within which they appear.
Then again, he may at some point feel very comfortable
discussing context.

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terri231
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8 May 2004, 04:04 UTC #12

(Rolando) said:
[email hidden] wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
Stephen Nagler said:
On Sun, 02 May 2004 13:52:08 -0400, A. B. Chung FAQ
<[email hidden]> wrote:
>22. Who is Stephen?
>-------------------
>(see above)
>
>23. What is Stephen's role?
>---------------------------
>(see above)
>
..........................
Dr. Chung:
Once again.
Regarding matters of medicine and religion, last week I
agreed not to address you and not to refer to you on
this newsgroup.
I will expect you to show me the same courtesy.
stephen nagler
Very polite response. So far a one-sided detente?
Quoted message said:

Then why are you addressing him?
Terri

Oh, Terri, look again. N said that he would not address C
on "matters of medicine and religion." He also said that
he would not refer to him. Here he was addressing
addressing him. And since he was addressing him, he was
not referring to him.
Rolando
Thanks Rolando...that clears things up nicely ;-)
Terri

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Mosaic M_uns
Archived post

17 May 2004, 10:05 UTC #13

On Tue, 04 May 2004 13:30:26 GMT, Stephen Nagler <[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:
I have asked you on several occasions not to make reference
to my religious beliefs.
Grow up.
Quoted message said:
Whatever you do from here on out is (as it always has been)
- as you say - a matter of free will.
So much for your attempts to control Usenet.
antwrp.gsfc.nasa.govap960222.html Lift well,
Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

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