Dr. Chung FAQ, Issue 3.75

A. B. Chung FAQ <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

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| The Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD FAQ |
| Version 3.75, April, 2004 |
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Introduction
------------
New people arriving in sci.med.cardiology (s.m.c.) are
often puzzled and troubled by the vitriol directed at Dr.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
(Dr. Chung) and want to better understand the reasons for
the hatred that some folks have for him. This FAQ
(Frequently Asked Questions) does provide some
truthful answers (there are versions of this FAQ put
out by detractors that are useful only for comparison
purposes). All answers given herein can be
independently verified either via Google or by using
the third-party resources at
heartmdphd.comprofile.aspOpen ↗. This FAQ has
been posted in the past in a manner that permits
authentication. The veracity of both the posting
email address and domain name can be independently
confirmed via Google
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗).

The FAQ is arranged in typical FAQ form, i.e. a series of
questions followed by simple truthful answers. For those
who don't wish to read the whole FAQ, the following
summary is provided.

Summary
-------
Dr. Chung is a well-respected licensed cardiologist, who
is board-certified in internal medicine and cardiology
(cardiovascular medicine). In this capacity, he
responds truthfully to medical questions on
s.m.c.(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗) He does
this out of sincere altruism when he has spare time
outside his private cardiology practice, where he sees
patients as a cardiologist. If that was all he were,
there would probably be no controversy.

The controversy arises from Dr. Chung being Christian, in
particular:

o He continues to publicly profess that Christ is his Lord
and Savior.

o He freely helps people to lose weight in an altruistic
Christian fashion (heartmdphd.comwtloss.aspOpen ↗).

o When attacked on the above issues, he turns the other
cheek in a Christian manner.

o When challenged about his faith in Christ, he witnesses
steadfastly without hatred
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗).

o When insulted for his faith in Christ, he openly calls
it a blessing.

o He remains truthful, as a servant of Christ, despite
being libeled and defamed
(heartmdphd.comlibel.aspOpen ↗).

o Other Christians have affirmed Dr. Chung's strong faith
in Christ.

The above lists only the highlights of Dr. Chung's
Christian behavior on s.m.c. If anything, it understates
it. Everything can be verified in the Google archives. He
witnesses to all at heartmdphd.comhealer.aspOpen ↗.

People arrive in this group looking for help. Dr. Chung
has graciously provided this over several years
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗). Dr. Chung
consistently demonstrates the breadth of his knowledge and
experience. This is archived many times over in Google.

List of Questions Answered
--------------------------
1. Who is Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD?
2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the Charter?
4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with
that?
5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature.
6. But I'm a Christian Too!
7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free
medical information out of the goodness of his heart?
9. How does a cardiologist have so much time to spend on
Usenet?
10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those
who challenge Dr. Chung?
12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks?
13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
14. What is the Two Pound Diet?
15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"?
16. Who is Mu?
17. What is Mu's role?
18. Who is Steve?
19. What is Steve's role?
20. Who is Bob?
21. What is Bob's role?
22. Who is Stephen?
23. What is Stephen's role?
24. Is this spam?
25. Who is the author of this FAQ?
26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as
some allege?
27. Are Mu, John, CarolT, and Dr. Chung the same person as
some allege?

1. Who is Dr. Andrew B Chung, MD/PhD?
-------------------------------------
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD is a licensed doubly board-
certified cardiologist practicing cardiovascular
medicine in Atlanta, Georgia, USA. His signature
contains a link to heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.comOpen ↗, which is
consistent with his posts and qualifications.

2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
---------------------------------
The purpose of this newsgroup is to establish electronic
media for communication between health care providers,
scientists and other individuals with interest in the
cardiovascular field. Such communications will provide
quick and efficacious means to exchange information and
knowledge, and offer problems to solutions.

The sci.med.cardiology newsgroup will welcome participants
who are health care providers, trainees, researchers,
students or recipients with interest in the field of
cardiovascular problems."

(ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/sci/sci.-
med.cardiology)

3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the charter?
-------------------------------------------------------
They are if these discussions represent "communication
between health care providers, scientists and other
individuals with interest in the cardiovascular field." It
should be noted that Christ remains a healthcare provider
(heartmdphd.comhealer.aspOpen ↗), who has
demonstrated an interest in the cardiovascular field when
He "resuscitated" Lazarus.

4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with
that?
-----------------------------------------------------
--------
Some people are fiercely anti-christian.

5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature,
isn't it?
--------------------------------------------------------
--------
Yes it is. But it offends those who are anti-christian.

6. But I'm a Christian too! Should I worry?
-------------------------------------------
No. You have Christ's promise of eternal life and the
unimaginable riches of God's kingdom.

7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
--------------------------------------------------
Anti-christians are unable to do that.

8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free
medical information out of the goodness of his heart?
----------------------------------------------------------
God is wonderful.

9. How does a cardiologist have so much time to spend on
Usenet?
--------------------------------------------------------
--------
God makes time for those whom He blesses.

10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
--------------------------------------------------
Do not concern yourself with the free will of others.

11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those
who challenge Dr. Chung?
------------------------------------------------------
--------
God uses anti-christians for His purposes. These posts are
according to His will.

12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks?
----------------------------------------------
This is how anti-christian folks are identified so they
can be culled from His flock.

13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
-------------------------------
Not really a question unless you ask yourself "why?"

14. What is the Two Pound Diet (TPD) approach?
----------------------------------------------
See: heartmdphd.comwtloss.aspOpen ↗

15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"?
---------------------------------------------------
Yes. It cures Metabolic Syndrome (MetS) which is a
condition that leads to higher rates of heart attacks and
strokes.

16. Who is Mu?
--------------
A Christian (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗).

17. What is Mu's role?
----------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.

18. Who is Steve?
-----------------
An anti-christian
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗). He authors the
untrue versions of this FAQ
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗).

19. What is Steve's role?
-------------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.

20. Who is Bob?
---------------
A food worshipper
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗). He is
obsessively drawn to the 2PD approach
(heartmdphd.comlibel.aspOpen ↗). He is also obsessed
with this FAQ (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗) and
can be seen writing to himself about it.

21. What is Bob's role?
-----------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.

22. Who is Stephen?
-------------------
An anti-christian Jew who believes that "Jesus is no more
the Messiah than Elvis Presley"
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗). He is so taken
with Dr. Chung's Christian beliefs that he is now a
cyberstalker (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗) by
his own admitted actions. In his continued cyberstalking
of Dr. Chung, he has learned that Dr. Chung has a long
history of reporting those who would willfully trespass
against others (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗). A
few words to the wise can be found at
heartmdphd.comstalking.aspOpen ↗ in this regard.

23. What is Stephen's role?
---------------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.

24. Is this spam?
-----------------
No, this is a FAQ.

25. Who is the author of this FAQ?
----------------------------------
There are multiple contributors and they choose to remain
anonymous although they respect Dr. Chung's choice not to
be anonymous.

26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as
some allege?
----------------------------------------------------------
-----------
No. Spam on Usenet are stand-alone advertisements and not
unique responses to the posts of others.

27. Are Mu, John, CarolT, and Dr. Chung the same person as
some allege?
----------------------------------------------------------
-------------
No. Mu, John, CarolT, and Andrew are 4 distinctly
different Christian individuals.

Comments and/or corrections to this FAQ will be taken
under advisement via [email hidden].

All praise belong to my Lord and Savior :-)

Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.comOpen ↗

**
Who is the humblest person in the universe?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗

What is all this about?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗

Is this spam?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗

28. At Dr. Chung's website
heartmdphd.comoffice.aspOpen ↗ he lists his
"Office Number" as 404-699-2780. To what street address
does that "office number" correspond?
-------------------------------------
According to "411" information, that number corresponds
to a *residence* at 6041 Colt Ridge Trail, SE in
Mableton, Georgia.

29. Why is Dr. Chung - supposedly a practicing
cardiologist - so incredibly secretive about the real
address of his office?
-------------------------------------
No idea; he may have much to hide! But if you call "411" and
ask for his office phone number, you get 770-739-7500. That
phone number corresponds to 5701 Mableton Parkway.

30. Why did Dr. Chung leave Ocala, Florida?
-------------------------------------
Dr. Chung's contract at a respected cardiology center there
was terminated *for cause* after less than four months
of employment.

31. What does "for cause" mean?
-------------------------------------
When a physician is hired to work as an employee for another
physician, a group of physicians, a clinic, or another
corporate entity, that contract may be terminated by the
employer at any time either "for cause" or "not for cause."
Under a typical contract, the employer may terminate the
employment "for cause" only if the physician has been found
guilty of a felony, if the physician has been grossly
negligent, if the physician has repeatedly used poor medical
judgement thereby endangering patients and has been
unwilling to accept constructive criticism in this regard,
or if the physician has been unethical in his dealings with
patients, colleagues, or other employees.

32. If a physician's contract is terminated "for cause,"
does the physician have any recourse?
-------------------------------------
The physician can submit his or her case for
arbitration or trial.

33.. What did Dr. Chung do when his contract was terminated
for cause?
-------------------------------------
He submitted his case for arbitration.

34. What was the result of the arbitration?
-------------------------------------
After carefully assessing both sides of the story, the
arbitrator found that the termination for cause was
justified.

35. What was the specific offense that led to Dr. Chung's
contract being terminated for cause?
-------------------------------------
That is up to Dr. Chung to disclose or not disclose as he
may desire.

36. Why did Dr. Chung report Stephen to the police for
stalking and harassment?
..................................... Stephen had the
unmitigated gall to post the trurth on this newsgroup
- that Dr. Chung lied to the AMA in stating that he had
staff privileges at three Atlanta-area hospitals when such
was not the case.

37. What did the police think about Dr. Chung's
accusations regarding Stephen?
..................................... The police
found Dr. Chung to have no credibility whatsoever and
closed the case.

38. Dr. Chung has referred to Stephen as "anti-Christian."
Is this an accurate characterization?
.................................... Stephen is anti-
hypocrisy, not anti-Christian. And in that sense
Stephen is very much anti-Chung.

39. What does any of this have to do with the
sci.med.cardiology newsgroup?
-------------------------------------
Ds. Chung addresses numerous issues - medical and non-
medical - on the sci.med.cardiology newsgroup. The
information outlined in this "addendum" to Dr. Chung's
FAQ is written for the purpose of lending some balance
and additional perspective. Each reader must make his or
her own decision with respect to the quality and
reliability of the information Dr. Chung provides on
this newsgroup, via e-mail, via the web, via telephone,
or in person. In my opinion nobody should ever take
medical information provided on Internet sites at face
value. All such information should be thoroughly
discussed with each respective reader's own physician.

Stephen M. Nagler, M.D.

X-No-archive: yes

"Stephen Nagler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

28. At Dr. Chung's website
heartmdphd.comoffice.aspOpen ↗ he lists his
"Office Number" as 404-699-2780. To what street
address does that "office number" correspond?
-------------------------------------
According to "411" information, that number corresponds to
a *residence* at 6041 Colt Ridge Trail, SE in Mableton,
Georgia.

29. Why is Dr. Chung - supposedly a practicing
cardiologist - so incredibly secretive about the real
address of his office?
-------------------------------------
No idea; he may have much to hide! But if you call "411"
and ask for his office phone number, you get 770-739-7500.
That phone number corresponds to 5701 Mableton Parkway.

30. Why did Dr. Chung leave Ocala, Florida?
-------------------------------------
Dr. Chung's contract at a respected cardiology center
there was terminated *for cause* after less than four
months of employment.

31. What does "for cause" mean?
-------------------------------------
When a physician is hired to work as an employee for
another physician, a group of physicians, a clinic, or
another corporate entity, that contract may be terminated
by the employer at any time either "for cause" or "not for
cause." Under a typical contract, the employer may
terminate the employment "for cause" only if the physician
has been found guilty of a felony, if the physician has
been grossly negligent, if the physician has repeatedly
used poor medical judgement thereby endangering patients
and has been unwilling to accept constructive criticism in
this regard, or if the physician has been unethical in his
dealings with patients, colleagues, or other employees.

32. If a physician's contract is terminated "for cause,"
does the physician have any recourse?
-------------------------------------
The physician can submit his or her case for arbitration
or trial.

33.. What did Dr. Chung do when his contract was
terminated for cause?
-------------------------------------
He submitted his case for arbitration.

34. What was the result of the arbitration?
-------------------------------------
After carefully assessing both sides of the story, the
arbitrator found that the termination for cause was
justified.

35. What was the specific offense that led to Dr. Chung's
contract being terminated for cause?
-------------------------------------
That is up to Dr. Chung to disclose or not disclose as he
may desire.

36. Why did Dr. Chung report Stephen to the police for
stalking and harassment?
..................................... Stephen had the
unmitigated gall to post the trurth on this newsgroup
- that Dr. Chung lied to the AMA in stating that he had
staff privileges at three Atlanta-area hospitals when
such was not the case.

37. What did the police think about Dr. Chung's
accusations regarding Stephen?
..................................... The police
found Dr. Chung to have no credibility whatsoever and
closed the case.

38. Dr. Chung has referred to Stephen as "anti-
Christian." Is this an accurate characterization?
.................................... Stephen is anti-
hypocrisy, not anti-Christian. And in that sense
Stephen is very much anti-Chung.

39. What does any of this have to do with the
sci.med.cardiology newsgroup?
-------------------------------------
Dr. Chung addresses numerous issues - medical and non-
medical - on the sci.med.cardiology newsgroup. The
information outlined in this "addendum" to Dr. Chung's
FAQ is written for the purpose of lending some balance
and additional perspective. Each reader must make his
or her own decision with respect to the quality and
reliability of the information Dr. Chung provides on
this newsgroup, via e-mail, via the web, via
telephone, or in person. In my opinion nobody should
ever take medical information provided on Internet
sites at face value. All such information should be
thoroughly discussed with each respective reader's own
physician.

40. Is Stephen obsessed with Dr. Chung ? :-)

A: ?????? ;-)

Fox said:

X-No-archive: yes

"Stephen Nagler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

28. At Dr. Chung's website
heartmdphd.comoffice.aspOpen ↗ he lists his
"Office Number" as 404-699-2780. To what street
address does that "office number" correspond?
-------------------------------------
According to "411" information, that number corresponds
to a *residence* at 6041 Colt Ridge Trail, SE in
Mableton, Georgia.

29. Why is Dr. Chung - supposedly a practicing
cardiologist - so incredibly secretive about the
real address of his office?
-------------------------------------
No idea; he may have much to hide! But if you call "411"
and ask for his office phone number, you get 770-739-
7500. That phone number corresponds to 5701 Mableton
Parkway.

30. Why did Dr. Chung leave Ocala, Florida?
-------------------------------------
Dr. Chung's contract at a respected cardiology center
there was terminated *for cause* after less than
four months of employment.

31. What does "for cause" mean?
-------------------------------------
When a physician is hired to work as an employee for
another physician, a group of physicians, a clinic, or
another corporate entity, that contract may be
terminated by the employer at any time either "for
cause" or "not for cause." Under a typical contract, the
employer may terminate the employment "for cause" only
if the physician has been found guilty of a felony, if
the physician has been grossly negligent, if the
physician has repeatedly used poor medical judgement
thereby endangering patients and has been unwilling to
accept constructive criticism in this regard, or if the
physician has been unethical in his dealings with
patients, colleagues, or other employees.

32. If a physician's contract is terminated "for
cause," does the physician have any recourse?
-------------------------------------
The physician can submit his or her case for arbitration
or trial.

33.. What did Dr. Chung do when his contract was
terminated for cause?
-------------------------------------
He submitted his case for arbitration.

34. What was the result of the arbitration?
-------------------------------------
After carefully assessing both sides of the story, the
arbitrator found that the termination for cause was
justified.

35. What was the specific offense that led to Dr.
Chung's contract being terminated for cause?
-------------------------------------
That is up to Dr. Chung to disclose or not disclose as
he may desire.

36. Why did Dr. Chung report Stephen to the police for
stalking and harassment?
..................................... Stephen had
the unmitigated gall to post the trurth on this
newsgroup
- that Dr. Chung lied to the AMA in stating that he had
staff privileges at three Atlanta-area hospitals when
such was not the case.

37. What did the police think about Dr. Chung's
accusations regarding Stephen?
..................................... The police
found Dr. Chung to have no credibility whatsoever
and closed the case.

38. Dr. Chung has referred to Stephen as "anti-
Christian." Is this an accurate characterization?
.................................... Stephen is anti-
hypocrisy, not anti-Christian. And in that sense
Stephen is very much anti-Chung.

39. What does any of this have to do with the
sci.med.cardiology newsgroup?
-------------------------------------
Dr. Chung addresses numerous issues - medical and non-
medical - on the sci.med.cardiology newsgroup. The
information outlined in this "addendum" to Dr.
Chung's FAQ is written for the purpose of lending
some balance and additional perspective. Each reader
must make his or her own decision with respect to
the quality and reliability of the information Dr.
Chung provides on this newsgroup, via e-mail, via
the web, via telephone, or in person. In my opinion
nobody should ever take medical information provided
on Internet sites at face value. All such
information should be thoroughly discussed with each
respective reader's own physician.

40. Is Stephen obsessed with Dr. Chung ? :-)

A: ?????? ;-)

Yes.

He remains in my prayers to God, in Christ's name.

May he accept Christ as his personal Lord and Savior,
someday, so that his obsessions might be cured.

Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.comOpen ↗

**
Who is the humblest person in the universe?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗

What is all this about?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗

Is this spam?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗

A complaint should be lodged with Nadler's service provider
for revealing details realting to the private life of an
individual on a newsgroup.

Rules are made for good causes. In this case, who is to say
if the details revealed might not be used by a sick or
criminal individual to do physical harm to DR. Chung.

jp

On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 21:21:30 +0530, "Fox" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

40. Is Stephen obsessed with Dr. Chung ? :-)

................

Furious, disgusted, and repulsed? Yes.

Obsessed? No

smn

jpuget said:

A complaint should be lodged with Nadler's service
provider for revealing details realting to the private
life of an individual on a newsgroup.

Rules are made for good causes. In this case, who is to
say if the details revealed might not be used by a sick or
criminal individual to do physical harm to DR. Chung.

jp

Appreciate the concern.

It is unlikely that reporting Stephen to his ISP will do
anything more than fan the flames of his obsessions. Truly,
my wish would be that he receive medical care. This may only
happen after he is arrested.

As for my being stalked, the authorities have been notified
and they are aware of the problem. It is their job to
intervene as this situation further destabilizes.

Meanwhile, Stephen remains in my prayers to God, in
Christ's name.

Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.comOpen ↗

**
Who is the humblest person in the universe?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗

What is all this about?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗

Is this spam?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗

X-No-archive: yes

"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote
in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

jpuget said:

A complaint should be lodged with Nadler's service
provider for revealing details realting to the private
life of an individual on a newsgroup.

Rules are made for good causes. In this case, who is to
say if the details revealed might not be used by a sick
or criminal individual to do physical harm to DR. Chung.

jp

Appreciate the concern.

It is unlikely that reporting Stephen to his ISP will do
anything more than fan the flames of his obsessions.
Truly, my wish would be that he receive medical care. This
may only happen after he is arrested.

Oh My ! " Stephen Nagler arrested and medicated for
cyberstalking" LOL

Quoted message said:

As for my being stalked, the authorities have been
notified and they are aware of the problem. It is their
job to intervene as this situation further destabilizes.

I didn't see the point in Nagler posting your address on the
NG though !

Quoted message said:

Meanwhile, Stephen remains in my prayers to God, in
Christ's name.

Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.comOpen ↗

** Who is the humblest person in the universe?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗

What is all this about?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗

Is this spam? makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗

On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 20:12:51 GMT, Stephen Nagler <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Fox said:

40. Is Stephen obsessed with Dr. Chung ? :-)

................

Furious, disgusted, and repulsed? Yes.

Obsessed? No

smn

Why don't you just killfile him as you suggest others do?

Terri

pub219.ezboard.combtinnitusactivismandsupportOpen ↗

Fox said:

X-No-archive: yes

"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]>
wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

jpuget said:

A complaint should be lodged with Nadler's service
provider for revealing details realting to the private
life of an individual on a newsgroup.

Rules are made for good causes. In this case, who is
to say if the details revealed might not be used by a
sick or criminal individual to do physical harm to DR.
Chung.

jp

Appreciate the concern.

It is unlikely that reporting Stephen to his ISP will do
anything more than fan the flames of his obsessions.
Truly, my wish would be that he receive medical care.
This may only happen after he is arrested.

Oh My ! " Stephen Nagler arrested and medicated for
cyberstalking" LOL

Yes, arrested for stalking.

Then, perhaps a wise judge might order the medical care.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

As for my being stalked, the authorities have been
notified and they are aware of the problem. It is their
job to intervene as this situation further destabilizes.

I didn't see the point in Nagler posting your address on
the NG though !

It betrays his claims that he is not obsessed.

Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.comOpen ↗

**
Who is the humblest person in the universe?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗

What is all this about?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗

Is this spam?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗

Quoted message said:

Stephen Nagler said:

Fox said:

40. Is Stephen obsessed with Dr. Chung ? :-)

................

Furious, disgusted, and repulsed? Yes.

Obsessed? No

smn

Why don't you just killfile him as you suggest others do?

Terri

It seems you also have the gift of truth discernment :-)

Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.comOpen ↗

**
Who is the humblest person in the universe?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗

What is all this about?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗

Is this spam?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗

Quoted message said:

Yes, arrested for stalking.

Then, perhaps a wise judge might order the medical care.

Quoted message said:

Since he (Dr. Nagler) will/should be arrested for stalking
then [put committed to court enforced medical care, what did
he do? You have aroused my curiosity. Must have done more
than argue with you here in the NG or mention 2
neighborhoods whose addresses (he didn't post I don't think)
are in the phone book.

Must be pretty bad, would very much like to know so that I
can decide whether or not his postings have value.

George said:

so that I can decide whether or not his postings
have value.

😉

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Quoted message said:

Why don't you just killfile him as you suggest others
do?<<<<<<<<<

Some people just love to argue, it's part of their makeup it
doesn't make them bad people. I think that there are a few
here like that, they actually care for one another and in
reality and their continued discourse, despite all things,
is a testament to their caring for each other.

Disputes and a degree of deviance in behaviour is what makes
the human race 'human' and loving those with the most
extreme deviance of behaviours, compared to our own
behaviour and nature, is a test of us.

People don't 'killfile' others (even when they claim to)
because human diversity enriches our lives, including that
which we think we don't like.

And we do like to have our lives enriched :o)

Carol T JJJJJJJJJJJJJJesusisthebestHehelpsusthroughanyargue-
mentanddisputeeeeeeeeeeeee

Carol T said:

[email hidden] wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Why don't you just killfile him as you suggest others
do?<<<<<<<<<

Some people just love to argue, it's part of their makeup
it doesn't make them bad people. I think that there are a
few here like that, they actually care for one another and
in reality and their continued discourse, despite all
things, is a testament to their caring for each other.

Disputes and a degree of deviance in behaviour is what
makes the human race 'human' and loving those with the
most extreme deviance of behaviours, compared to our own
behaviour and nature, is a test of us.

People don't 'killfile' others (even when they claim to)
because human diversity enriches our lives, including that
which we think we don't like.

And we do like to have our lives enriched :o)

Carol T JJJJJJJJJJJJJJesusisthebestHehelpsusthroughanyarg-
uementanddisputeeeeeeeeeeeee

That He is and does :-)

Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

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jpuget said:

A complaint should be lodged with Nadler's service
provider for revealing details realting to the private
life of an individual on a newsgroup.

Perhaps you should read the group for a while so you can
realt [sic] to the participants.

Quoted message said:

Rules are made for good causes.

What "rule" is it that you say is being violated?

Quoted message said:

In this case, who is to say if the details revealed might
not be used by a sick or criminal individual to do
physical harm to DR. Chung.

Chung and his friend Mu have tried on several occasions to
reach out into real life to cause harm. Talk to them first.

I love your fake address. What color are your socks...?

Bob

Dr. Andrew B. Chung said:

It is unlikely that reporting Stephen to his ISP will do
anything more than fan the flames of his obsessions.
Truly, my wish would be that he receive medical care. This
may only happen after he is arrested.

He'll only be arrested if Chung gets the sort of insane
fundamentalist government in Georgia that Al-Qaida and the
Taliban think is good.

People have to do illegal things before they're arrested.
The police in Atlanta got an annoyed laugh from Chung's
complaint. Not nice to file frivolous, unfounded complaints
with civil authorities. They don't forget being toyed with.
They don't forget malicious complaints.

Quoted message said:

As for my being stalked, the authorities have been
notified and they are aware of the problem.

The "authorities" have closed the "case" that Chung tried to
create. Dismissed out of hand; no further action planned.

Quoted message said:

It is their job to intervene as this situation further
destabilizes.

What's unstable in the situation is Chung's mental
condition. The police deal with his sort every day. That's
why they didn't even bother to look into it very far. Just
another nutcase complaining to try to hurt someone.

Bob

On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 20:12:51 GMT, Stephen Nagler <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

40. Is Stephen obsessed with Dr. Chung ? :-)

................

Furious, disgusted, and repulsed? Yes.

Obsessed? No

You obsession with denying your obsessions is infuriating,
disgusting and repulsive.

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Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

Home said:

Stephen Nagler said:

Quoted message said:

40. Is Stephen obsessed with Dr. Chung ? :-)

................

Furious, disgusted, and repulsed? Yes.

Obsessed? No

You obsession with denying your obsessions is infuriating,
disgusting and repulsive.

<LOL> Nobody else is halfwit enough to write something as
patently absurd as that. Congratulations on establishing a
new low in measurable IQ. <LOL>

Too funny. Chung and Mu repeatedly and repeatedly accuse and
when Stephen asserts otherwise, he's the obsessive one.
Looks to me like the one who initiates it is the obsessive
one. Or, in this case, ones.

Mirror, mirror on the wall who's most obsessive of them
all? Hard to choose 'tween Chung and Mu. I'll leave
deciding up to you...

No incorrect answer to this little quiz...

<LOL>

What a pair...

Bob