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* --------------------------------- | The Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD FAQ | | Version 3.40, February, 2004 | --------------------------------- Introduction ------------ New people arriving in sci.med.cardiology (s.m.c.) are often puzzled and troubled by the vitriol directed at Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD (Dr. Chung) and want to better understand the reasons for the hatred that some folks have for him. This FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) does provide some truthful answers (there are versions of this FAQ put out by detractors that are useful only for comparison purposes). All answers given herein can be independently verified either via Google or by using the third-party resources at http://www.heartmdphd.com/profile.asp. This FAQ has been posted in a manner that permits authentication. The veracity of both the posting email address and domain name can be independently confirmed via Google. The FAQ is arranged in typical FAQ form, i.e. a series of questions followed by simple answers. For those who don't wish to read the whole FAQ, the following summary is provided. Summary ------- Ds. Chung is a well-respected licensed cardiologist, who is board-certified in internal medicine and cardiology (cardiovascular medicine). In this capacity, he responds truthfully to medical questions on s.m.c. He does this out of sincere altruism when he has spare time outside his private cardiology practice, where he sees patients as a cardiologist. If that was all he were, there would probably be no controversy. The controversy arises from Dr. Chung being Christian, in particular: o He continues to publicly profess that Christ is his Lord and Savior. o He freely helps people to lose weight in an altruistic Christian fashion (http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp). o When attacked on the above issues, he turns the other cheek in a Christian manner. o When challenged about his faith in Christ, he witnesses steadfastly without hatred. o When insulted for his faith in Christ, he openly calls it a blessing. o He remains truthful, as a servant of Christ, despite being libeled and defamed (http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp). o Other Christians have affirmed Dr. Chung's strong faith in Christ. The above lists only the highlights of Dr. Chung's Christian behavior on s.m.c. If anything, it understates it. Everything can be verified in the Google archives. He witnesses to all at http://www.heartmdphd.com/healer.asp. People arrive in this group looking for help. Dr. Chung has graciously provided this over several years (http://makeashorterlink.com/?H10A13167). Dr. Chung consistently demonstrates the breadth of his knowledge and experience. This is archived many times over in Google. List of Questions Answered -------------------------- 1. Who is Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD? 2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.? 3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the Charter? 4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with that? 5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature. 6. But I'm a Christian Too! 7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature? 8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free medical information out of the goodness of his heart? 9. How does a practicing physician have so much time to spend on Usenet? 10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away? 11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those who challenge Dr. Chung? 12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks? 13. I'm sick of seeing all this! 14. What is the Two Pound Diet? 15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"? 16. Who is Mu? 17. What is Mu's role? 18. Who is Steve? 19. What is Steve's role? 20. Who is Bob? 21. What is Bob's role? 22. Who is Stephen? 23. What is Stephen's role? 24. Is this spam? 25. Who is the author of this FAQ? 26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as some allege? 27. Are Mu and Dr. Chung the same person as some allege? 28. Who is Dr. Andrew B Chung, MD/PhD? ------------------------------------- Dt. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD is a licensed doubly board-certified cardiologist practicing cardiovascular medicine in Atlanta, Georgia, USA. His signature contains a link to http://www.heartmdphd.com, which is consistent with his posts and qualifications. 2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.? --------------------------------- The purpose of this newsgroup is to establish electronic media for communication between health care providers, scientists and other individuals with interest in the cardiovascular field. Such communications will provide quick and efficacious means to exchange information and knowledge, and offer problems to solutions. The sci.med.cardiology newsgroup will welcome participants who are health care providers, trainees, researchers, students or recipients with interest in the field of cardiovascular problems." (ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/sci/sci.med.cardiology) 3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the charter? ------------------------------------------------------- Possibly (http://www.heartmdphd.com/healer.asp). 4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with that? ------------------------------------------------------------- Some people are fiercely anti-christian. 5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature, isn't it? ---------------------------------------------------------------- Yes it is. But it offends those who are anti-christian. 6. But I'm a Christian too! Should I worry? ------------------------------------------- No. You have Christ's promise of eternal life and the unimaginable riches of God's kingdom. 7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature? -------------------------------------------------- Anti-christians are unable to do that. 8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free medical information out of the goodness of his heart? ---------------------------------------------------------- God is wonderful. 9. How does a practicing physician have so much time to spend on Usenet? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ God makes time for those whom He blesses. 10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away? -------------------------------------------------- Do not concern yourself with the free will of others. 11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those who challenge Dr. Chung? -------------------------------------------------------------- God uses anti-christians for His purposes. These posts are according to His will. 12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks? ---------------------------------------------- This is how anti-christian folks are identified so they can be culled from His flock. 13. I'm sick of seeing all this! ------------------------------- Not really a question unless you ask yourself "why?" 14. What is the Two Pound Diet (TPD) approach? ---------------------------------------------- See: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp 15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"? --------------------------------------------------- Yes. It cures metabolic syndrome (MetS) which is a condition that leads to higher rates of cardiovascular morbidity and mortality. 16. Who is Mu? -------------- A Christian (http://makeashorterlink.com/?S5A631E57). 17. What is Mu's role? ---------------------- To serve God's will and purpose. 18. Who is Steve? ----------------- An anti-christian (http://makeashorterlink.com/?A20055A37). He authors the untrue version of this FAQ. 19. What is Steve's role? ------------------------- To serve God's will and purpose. 20. Who is Bob? --------------- A food worshipper (http://makeashorterlink.com/?T48662E57). He is obsessively drawn to the 2PD approach (http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp) 21. What is Bob's role? ----------------------- To serve God's will and purpose. 22. Who is Stephen? ------------------- An anti-christian Jew who believes that "Jesus is no more the Messiah than Elvis Presley" (http://makeashorterlink.com/?J1B623B67). He is so obsessively drawn to Dr. Chung's Christian beliefs that he is now a cyberstalker (http://makeashorterlink.com/?Y25611B67) by his own admission. 23. What is Stephen's role? --------------------------- To serve God's will and purpose. 24. Is this spam? ----------------- No, this is a FAQ. 25. Who is the author of this FAQ? ---------------------------------- There are multiple contributors and they choose to remain anonymous although they respect Dr. Chung's choice not to be anonymous. 26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as many allege? --------------------------------------------------------------------- No. Spam on Usenet are stand-alone advertisements and not unique responses to the posts of others. 27. Are Mu and Dr. Chung the same person as some allege? -------------------------------------------------------- No. Mu, John, CarolT, and Andrew are 4 distinct Christian individuals. Comments and/or corrections to this FAQ will be taken under advisement via [email hidden].

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21 February 2004, 05:20 UTC #1

*
---------------------------------
| The Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD FAQ |
| Version 3.40, February, 2004 |
---------------------------------
Introduction
------------
New people arriving in sci.med.cardiology (s.m.c.) are often puzzled and troubled by the vitriol
directed at Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
(Dr. Chung) and want to better understand the reasons for the hatred that some folks have for him.
This FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) does provide some truthful answers (there are versions of
this FAQ put out by detractors that are useful only for comparison purposes). All answers given
herein can be independently verified either via Google or by using the third-party resources at
heartmdphd.comprofile.asp. This FAQ has been posted in a manner that permits
authentication. The veracity of both the posting email address and domain name can be
independently confirmed via Google.
The FAQ is arranged in typical FAQ form, i.e. a series of questions followed by simple answers. For
those who don't wish to read the whole FAQ, the following summary is provided.
Summary
-------
Ds. Chung is a well-respected licensed cardiologist, who is board-certified in internal medicine and
cardiology (cardiovascular medicine). In this capacity, he responds truthfully to medical
questions on s.m.c. He does this out of sincere altruism when he has spare time outside his
private cardiology practice, where he sees patients as a cardiologist. If that was all he were,
there would probably be no controversy.
The controversy arises from Dr. Chung being Christian, in particular:
o He continues to publicly profess that Christ is his Lord and Savior.
o He freely helps people to lose weight in an altruistic Christian fashion
(heartmdphd.comwtloss.asp).
o When attacked on the above issues, he turns the other cheek in a Christian manner.
o When challenged about his faith in Christ, he witnesses steadfastly without hatred.
o When insulted for his faith in Christ, he openly calls it a blessing.
o He remains truthful, as a servant of Christ, despite being libeled and defamed
(heartmdphd.comlibel.asp).
o Other Christians have affirmed Dr. Chung's strong faith in Christ.
The above lists only the highlights of Dr. Chung's Christian behavior on s.m.c. If anything, it
understates it. Everything can be verified in the Google archives. He witnesses to all at
heartmdphd.comhealer.asp.
People arrive in this group looking for help. Dr. Chung has graciously provided this over several
years (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). Dr. Chung consistently demonstrates the breadth of
his knowledge and experience. This is archived many times over in Google.
List of Questions Answered
--------------------------
1. Who is Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD?
2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the Charter?
4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with that?
5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature.
6. But I'm a Christian Too!
7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free medical information out of the goodness
of his heart?
9. How does a practicing physician have so much time to spend on Usenet?
10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those who challenge Dr. Chung?
12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks?
13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
14. What is the Two Pound Diet?
15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"?
16. Who is Mu?
17. What is Mu's role?
18. Who is Steve?
19. What is Steve's role?
20. Who is Bob?
21. What is Bob's role?
22. Who is Stephen?
23. What is Stephen's role?
24. Is this spam?
25. Who is the author of this FAQ?
26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as some allege?
27. Are Mu and Dr. Chung the same person as some allege?
28. Who is Dr. Andrew B Chung, MD/PhD?
-------------------------------------
Dt. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD is a licensed doubly board-certified cardiologist practicing
cardiovascular medicine in Atlanta, Georgia, USA. His signature contains a link to
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com, which is consistent with his posts and qualifications.
2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
---------------------------------
The purpose of this newsgroup is to establish electronic media for communication between health care
providers, scientists and other individuals with interest in the cardiovascular field. Such
communications will provide quick and efficacious means to exchange information and knowledge, and
offer problems to solutions.
The sci.med.cardiology newsgroup will welcome participants who are health care providers, trainees,
researchers, students or recipients with interest in the field of cardiovascular problems."
(ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/sci/sci.med.cardiology)
3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the charter?
-------------------------------------------------------
Possibly (heartmdphd.comhealer.asp).
4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with that?
-------------------------------------------------------------
Some people are fiercely anti-christian.
5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature, isn't it?
----------------------------------------------------------------
Yes it is. But it offends those who are anti-christian.
6. But I'm a Christian too! Should I worry?
-------------------------------------------
No. You have Christ's promise of eternal life and the unimaginable riches of God's kingdom.
7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
--------------------------------------------------
Anti-christians are unable to do that.
8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free medical information out of the goodness
of his heart?
----------------------------------------------------------
God is wonderful.
9. How does a practicing physician have so much time to spend on Usenet?
------------------------------------------------------------------------
God makes time for those whom He blesses.
10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
--------------------------------------------------
Do not concern yourself with the free will of others.
11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those who challenge Dr. Chung?
--------------------------------------------------------------
God uses anti-christians for His purposes. These posts are according to His will.
12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks?
----------------------------------------------
This is how anti-christian folks are identified so they can be culled from His flock.
13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
-------------------------------
Not really a question unless you ask yourself "why?"
14. What is the Two Pound Diet (TPD) approach?
----------------------------------------------
See: heartmdphd.comwtloss.asp
15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"?
---------------------------------------------------
Yes. It cures metabolic syndrome (MetS) which is a condition that leads to higher rates of
cardiovascular morbidity and mortality.
16. Who is Mu?
--------------
A Christian (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
17. What is Mu's role?
----------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
18. Who is Steve?
-----------------
An anti-christian (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He authors the untrue version
of this FAQ.
19. What is Steve's role?
-------------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
20. Who is Bob?
---------------
A food worshipper (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He is obsessively drawn to the 2PD
approach (heartmdphd.comlibel.asp)
21. What is Bob's role?
-----------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
22. Who is Stephen?
-------------------
An anti-christian Jew who believes that "Jesus is no more the Messiah than Elvis Presley"
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He is so obsessively drawn to Dr. Chung's Christian
beliefs that he is now a cyberstalker (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) by his own admission.
23. What is Stephen's role?
---------------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
24. Is this spam?
-----------------
No, this is a FAQ.
25. Who is the author of this FAQ?
----------------------------------
There are multiple contributors and they choose to remain anonymous although they respect Dr.
Chung's choice not to be anonymous.
26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as many allege?
---------------------------------------------------------------------
No. Spam on Usenet are stand-alone advertisements and not unique responses to the posts of others.
27. Are Mu and Dr. Chung the same person as some allege?
--------------------------------------------------------
No. Mu, John, CarolT, and Andrew are 4 distinct Christian individuals.
Comments and/or corrections to this FAQ will be taken under advisement via [email hidden].

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Dr. Andrew B. C
Archived post

21 February 2004, 05:20 UTC #2

A. B. Chung FAQ said:
*
---------------------------------
| The Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD FAQ |
| Version 3.40, February, 2004 |
---------------------------------
Introduction
------------
New people arriving in sci.med.cardiology (s.m.c.) are often puzzled and troubled by the vitriol
directed at Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
(Dr. Chung) and want to better understand the reasons for the hatred that some folks have for him.
This FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) does provide some truthful answers (there are versions
of this FAQ put out by detractors that are useful only for comparison purposes). All answers
given herein can be independently verified either via Google or by using the third-party
resources at heartmdphd.comprofile.asp. This FAQ has been posted in a manner that
permits authentication. The veracity of both the posting email address and domain name can be
independently confirmed via Google.
The FAQ is arranged in typical FAQ form, i.e. a series of questions followed by simple answers.
For those who don't wish to read the whole FAQ, the following summary is provided.
Summary
-------
Dr. Chung is a well-respected licensed cardiologist, who is board-certified in internal medicine
and cardiology (cardiovascular medicine). In this capacity, he responds truthfully to medical
questions on s.m.c. He does this out of sincere altruism when he has spare time outside his
private cardiology practice, where he sees patients as a cardiologist. If that was all he
were, there would probably be no controversy.
The controversy arises from Dr. Chung being Christian, in particular:
o He continues to publicly profess that Christ is his Lord and Savior.
o He freely helps people to lose weight in an altruistic Christian fashion
(heartmdphd.comwtloss.asp).
o When attacked on the above issues, he turns the other cheek in a Christian manner.
o When challenged about his faith in Christ, he witnesses steadfastly without hatred.
o When insulted for his faith in Christ, he openly calls it a blessing.
o He remains truthful, as a servant of Christ, despite being libeled and defamed
(heartmdphd.comlibel.asp).
o Other Christians have affirmed Dr. Chung's strong faith in Christ.
The above lists only the highlights of Dr. Chung's Christian behavior on s.m.c. If anything, it
understates it. Everything can be verified in the Google archives. He witnesses to all at
heartmdphd.comhealer.asp.
People arrive in this group looking for help. Dr. Chung has graciously provided this over several
years (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). Dr. Chung consistently demonstrates the breadth of
his knowledge and experience. This is archived many times over in Google.
List of Questions Answered
--------------------------
1. Who is Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD?
2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the Charter?
4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with that?
5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature.
6. But I'm a Christian Too!
7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free medical information out of the goodness
of his heart?
9. How does a practicing physician have so much time to spend on Usenet?
10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those who challenge Dr. Chung?
12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks?
13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
14. What is the Two Pound Diet?
15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"?
16. Who is Mu?
17. What is Mu's role?
18. Who is Steve?
19. What is Steve's role?
20. Who is Bob?
21. What is Bob's role?
22. Who is Stephen?
23. What is Stephen's role?
24. Is this spam?
25. Who is the author of this FAQ?
26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as some allege?
27. Are Mu and Dr. Chung the same person as some allege?
1. Who is Dr. Andrew B Chung, MD/PhD?
-------------------------------------
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD is a licensed doubly board-certified cardiologist practicing
cardiovascular medicine in Atlanta, Georgia, USA. His signature contains a link to
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com, which is consistent with his posts and qualifications.
2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
---------------------------------
The purpose of this newsgroup is to establish electronic media for communication between health
care providers, scientists and other individuals with interest in the cardiovascular field. Such
communications will provide quick and efficacious means to exchange information and knowledge, and
offer problems to solutions.
The sci.med.cardiology newsgroup will welcome participants who are health care providers,
trainees, researchers, students or recipients with interest in the field of cardiovascular
problems."
(ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/sci/sci.med.cardiology)
3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the charter?
-------------------------------------------------------
Possibly (heartmdphd.comhealer.asp).
4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with that?
-------------------------------------------------------------
Some people are fiercely anti-christian.
5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature, isn't it?
----------------------------------------------------------------
Yes it is. But it offends those who are anti-christian.
6. But I'm a Christian too! Should I worry?
-------------------------------------------
No. You have Christ's promise of eternal life and the unimaginable riches of God's kingdom.
7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
--------------------------------------------------
Anti-christians are unable to do that.
8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free medical information out of the goodness
of his heart?
----------------------------------------------------------
God is wonderful.
9. How does a practicing physician have so much time to spend on Usenet?
------------------------------------------------------------------------
God makes time for those whom He blesses.
10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
--------------------------------------------------
Do not concern yourself with the free will of others.
11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those who challenge Dr. Chung?
--------------------------------------------------------------
God uses anti-christians for His purposes. These posts are according to His will.
12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks?
----------------------------------------------
This is how anti-christian folks are identified so they can be culled from His flock.
13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
-------------------------------
Not really a question unless you ask yourself "why?"
14. What is the Two Pound Diet (TPD) approach?
----------------------------------------------
See: heartmdphd.comwtloss.asp
15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"?
---------------------------------------------------
Yes. It cures metabolic syndrome (MetS) which is a condition that leads to higher rates of
cardiovascular morbidity and mortality.
16. Who is Mu?
--------------
A Christian (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
17. What is Mu's role?
----------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
18. Who is Steve?
-----------------
An anti-christian (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He authors the untrue version of
this FAQ.
19. What is Steve's role?
-------------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
20. Who is Bob?
---------------
A food worshipper (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He is obsessively drawn to the 2PD
approach (heartmdphd.comlibel.asp)
21. What is Bob's role?
-----------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
22. Who is Stephen?
-------------------
An anti-christian Jew who believes that "Jesus is no more the Messiah than Elvis Presley"
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He is so obsessively drawn to Dr. Chung's Christian
beliefs that he is now a cyberstalker (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) by his own
admission.
23. What is Stephen's role?
---------------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
24. Is this spam?
-----------------
No, this is a FAQ.
25. Who is the author of this FAQ?
----------------------------------
There are multiple contributors and they choose to remain anonymous although they respect Dr.
Chung's choice not to be anonymous.
26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as many allege?
---------------------------------------------------------------------
No. Spam on Usenet are stand-alone advertisements and not unique responses to the posts of others.
27. Are Mu and Dr. Chung the same person as some allege?
--------------------------------------------------------
No. Mu, John, CarolT, and Andrew are 4 distinct Christian individuals.
Comments and/or corrections to this FAQ will be taken under advisement via [email hidden].
All the glory belongs to God now and forever :-)
Servant to the humblest person in the universe,
Andrew
--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com
**
Who is the humblest person in the universe?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com
What is all this about?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com
Is this spam?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

Report
Bob
Archived post

21 February 2004, 09:19 UTC #3

Dr. Andrew B. Chung wrote about himself and others:
Quoted message said:
---------------------------------
| The Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD FAQ |
| Version 3.40, February, 2004 |
---------------------------------
Introduction
------------
New people arriving in sci.med.cardiology (s.m.c.) are often puzzled and troubled by the vitriol
directed at Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
And here's why so many people have decided that CHung is a liar, fraud and malicious fake in
general. Note what he writes here:
Quoted message said:
22. Who is Stephen?
-------------------
An anti-christian Jew who believes that "Jesus is no more the Messiah than Elvis Presley"
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He is so obsessively drawn to Dr. Chung's Christian
beliefs that he is now a cyberstalker (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) by his own
admission.
That shorter link leads to this post: "Yea, Dr. Chung. Right. You loved me so much that you called
the Cobb County Police and falsely accused me of harassing you and stalking you. Let's see - there
was the call to your office where I asked your receptionist if you were on staff at St. Joseph's
Hospital or any other Atlanta area hospitals. She said that she didn't know. I thanked her and
hung up the phone. Took fifteen seconds. Maybe twenty. THAT was the telephone harassment you
accused me of. And then there was the e-mail harassment. You remember, don't you? The three e-
mails I sent? Two in which I invited you to lunch so that we could discuss our differences ... and
one in which I told you I felt no ill will towards you and asked that we make an effort not to be
hurtful to one another."
Stephen not only didn't admit he was a stalker, which he clearly is not, he denied it. Chung asserts
the opposite of the reality. That's why Chung is a liar. Because he lies.
Bob

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Carol T
Archived post

21 February 2004, 14:19 UTC #4

"Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
>>"and one in which I told you I felt no ill will towards you and

asked that we make an effort not to be hurtful to one another." <<<<<<<<<
Dear Bob,
Please don't let Satan use you like this? I pray that you can rise above these thoughts and feelings
and be well in your mind and Spirit.
Carol T

Report
Dr. Andrew B. C
Archived post

21 February 2004, 15:51 UTC #5

Carol T said:
"Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
>>>"and one in which I told you I felt no ill will towards you and

asked that we make an effort not to be hurtful to one another." <<<<<<<<<
Dear Bob,
Please don't let Satan use you like this? I pray that you can rise above these thoughts and
feelings and be well in your mind and Spirit.
Carol T
He certainly remains in my prayers.
May he accept Christ as his personal Lord and Savior, someday. Only He can save him.
Servant to the humblest person in the universe,
Andrew
--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com
**
Who is the humblest person in the universe?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com
What is all this about?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com
Is this spam?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

Report
Bob
Archived post

21 February 2004, 19:51 UTC #6

Carol T said:
"Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
>>>"and one in which I told you I felt no ill will towards you and

asked that we make an effort not to be hurtful to one another." <<<<<<<<<
Dear Bob,
Please don't let Satan use you like this? I pray that you can rise above these thoughts and
feelings and be well in your mind and Spirit.
Dear Carol:
If you're going to quote me, quote ME. I didn't write those words. But what could be wrong with
those sentiments? Why don't you lecture everyone who says things not in keeping with that spirit?
Or, better yet, lecture no one.
I pray that you'll stop your endless empty prattling. Perhaps it would be good if you prayed in the
closet, as Jesus suggested, rather than out here on the street.
You've already indicated that you disapprove of my actions. It doesn't matter to me what you think.
Interesting that you feel free to judge.
You've demonstrated a rather unattractive willingness to side with anyone who mouths the same sorts
of empty platitudes you do. You accept malice and spite, you accept dishonesty from fake Christians
who merely speak their religion rather than living it.
Bob

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Stephen Nagler
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21 February 2004, 19:51 UTC #7

(Carol T) said:
"Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
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>>>"and one in which I told you I felt no ill will towards you and

asked that we make an effort not to be hurtful to one another." <<<<<<<<<
Dear Bob,
Please don't let Satan use you like this? I pray that you can rise above these thoughts and
feelings and be well in your mind and Spirit.
Carol T
..................
Carol -
Those words - a request to Dr. Chung that he and I make an effort not to be hurtful to one another -
were my words, not Bob's.
Dr. Chung, I am sad to say, ignored my request and responded by filing a false report against me
with the local police.
In supporting Dr. Chung, Carol, you are supporting an unrepentant sinner.
So, Carol, I now say the following to you: Please don't let Satan use you like this? I pray that you
can rise above these thoughts and feelings and be well in your mind and Spirit.
smn

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Carol T
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22 February 2004, 15:10 UTC #8

"Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
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Carol T wrote:
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>> If you're going to quote me, quote ME. I didn't write those

words. But what could be wrong with those sentiments?<<<<<<<<
Did you spread them? Why do people take words and spread them for evil purposes? If they chose to do
it themselves then they are evil, I don't believe this of you, but the devil will use those who have
their guard down. You can have power over the devil if you chose. Ephesians
6:11
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>>>>Perhaps it would be good if you prayed in the closet, as Jesus

suggested, rather than out here on the street.<<<<<<<<<
Perhaps.... until when you pray on the street it is for the love of others.
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>> You've already indicated that you disapprove of my actions. It

doesn't
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matter to me what you think.<<<<<<<<
It is not your actions that concern me, it's the actions of who is manipulating you.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You

accept malice and spite, you accept dishonesty from fake Christians who merely speak their
religion rather than living it.<<<<<<<<<<
Who amongst men should I not love and forgive if I can forgive you for believing this? Who is most
worthy to live to your standards that men will seek him and aspire to live by his ways? God's ways
are not the ways of men, but worthy for mankind to live by.
"Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil." NKJ
Eph 6:11 Do this knowing that Christ has died to save you from being used by Satan.
Carol T

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Bob
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22 February 2004, 20:31 UTC #9

Carol T said:
"Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
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Carol T wrote:
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>>>If you're going to quote me, quote ME. I didn't write those

words. But what could be wrong with those sentiments?<<<<<<<<
Did you spread them? Why do people take words and spread them for evil purposes?
Let's see if I have this right... good sentiments about how to act in a loving and respectful
fashion can be spread for evil purposes? Are you insane? How, then, can anyone know if all that
biblical quotation and pointy-nosed lecturing isn't for evil purposes? Go away with this shallow
[censored], Carol. Your excusing the frauds reaches new lows here.
I've posted what I have about Chung, Mu, "John" and the other fakers because it's right to point out
deceit. It's right to point out fraud. It's right to point out quackery. It's right, not evil. I'm
pointing out evil. You're pointing out that you don't like your fellow fake Christians to have their
threadbare cloaks spotlighted. Pity you can't be honest about this.
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If they chose to do it themselves then they are evil, I don't believe this of you, but the devil
will use those who have their guard down. You can have power over the devil if you chose.
Ephesians
6:11
I don't happen to share your version of what impels me. I don't happen to share your version of
where true evil lies. I share very little with you, most particularly that you have any insights
that are of any value. You see only the surface of things.
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>>>>>Perhaps it would be good if you prayed in the closet, as Jesus

suggested, rather than out here on the street.<<<<<<<<<
Perhaps.... until when you pray on the street it is for the love of others.
And perhaps it's [censored] sanctimony. But it still violates that injunction that Jesus left for all.
In The case of the frauds you wish to defend and excuse, it's for love of self and condescension
towards others that they post. YOu seem to be falling into the same pit. They can create fraudulent
accusations and innuendoes and you let it go. They can deliberately post fighting words and you let
it go. Chung can post his FAQ and you let it go. Mu can attack people with clear, hurtful intent and
you let it go. "John" can post an apologia for Chung' diet that's obviously illogical and
diversionary and you let it go.
But if anyone posts anything that points out their modus operandi or their obvious desired mean-
spirited intent, here you are, jumping to their rescue with your sweeping phrases, full of sound and
fury, empty of any trace of the message of Jesus.
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>>>You've already indicated that you disapprove of my actions. It

doesn't matter to me what you think.<<<<<<<<
It is not your actions that concern me, it's the actions of who is manipulating you.
You're only too happy to spout your frothy nonsense at me but are all-too-obviously unwilling to
castigate your fellow whited sepulchers. No indication that you believe that the madness and
viciousness of Chung is directed by "who is manipulating" him.
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You accept malice and spite, you accept dishonesty from fake Christians who merely speak their
religion rather than living it.<<<<<<<<<<
Who amongst men should I not love and forgive
You have no powers of forgiveness except for those who "have trespassed against you."
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if I can forgive you for believing this?
Forgive me for my beliefs - based on the evidence presented?
Carol you're either a total fraud or a sadly deceived sucker. You can forgive me for believing that
Chung is malicious? You can forgive me for thinking that Mu is is a dishonest person? You can
forgive me for seeing "John" try to dissemble his way out of the traps he puts himself into? You can
forgive me for watching you castigate everyone except the frauds who mouth their
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Who is most worthy to live to your standards that men will seek him and aspire to live by
his ways?
Puhleeze. More churchly gibberish. It's really easier than all that. It finally comes down to being
honest and not doing malicious stuff. The rest is all these platitudes and quotations out of context
that advance only the egotism of the quoter.
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God's ways are not the ways of men, but worthy for mankind to live by.
Oh, peddle it somewhere else. God lives by God's ways. Mankind can't even understand them, much less
emulate them or observe them.
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"Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil." NKJ
Eph 6:11 Do this knowing that Christ has died to save you from being used by Satan.
Look in the mirror. To believe that you aren't subject to the same injunction is to believe yourself
better than everybody else, somehow above the message of humility because you can spew these self-
excusing pseudo-biblical phrases. The evidence is to the contrary. Carol, I had you in my killfile
for a while for all the reasons your behavior merits. I took you back out. That was a mistake. You
serve only to obscure the evil and puff it up with your hollow defenses and shabby attacks on those
who cast it from the temple steps.
Bob

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