Dr. Chung FAQ, Issue 2

A. B. Chung FAQ said:

---------------------------------
| The Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD FAQ |
| Version 1.0, February, 2004 |
---------------------------------

<LOL>

Now Chung posts the rewritten FAQ he did as a stand-alone posting. Hilarious. Oh, look, reviews.

"If you can only read one FAQ this winter, be sure to check out the one Chung wrote. Ok, so it's self-
serving, dishonest and poorly written. Lotsa wacko religious fundamentalist cult craziness. Still,
you'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll make sure not to go to a cardiologist in Atlanta. Don't tell
anybody the ending. Bwahahaha." New York Dimes.

"Dr. A.B.Chung has outdone himself with his newest posting. While so many of his others are squalid
and shabby, he has taken it to new heights (depths?) in his phony FAQ. It's always wonderful
watching a duplicitous craftsman at work. His one serious omission is that he seems to have stopped
saying that 2 pounds of potatoes contains 3600 calories." The Atlanta Journal Constipation

"Chung is de man. He hops, skips and jumps his way around facts like a dervish on a mission, never
quite landing on one. He sure-footedly manages to miss the truth and even excuses his "friend"
M_alicious M_un as though it were in his power to do so. This is a must-read for all other weasels,
frauds, quacks, liars and well-paid Cardiotricians who talk about non-revenue-producing websites
that contribute the proceeds to charity." The Washington Poster

Bob

Quoted message said:

Introduction
------------
New people arriving in sci.med.cardiology (s.m.c.) are often puzzled and troubled by the
controversy surrounding the poster who posts as Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD (Dr. Chung) and want
to know what the controversy is about. This FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) attempts to provide
some answers.

The FAQ is arranged in typical FAQ form, i.e. a series of questions and answers. For those who
don't wish to read the whole FAQ, the following summary is provided.

Summary
-------
Dr. Chung is a licensed physician board-certified in internal medicine and cardiology. In this
capacity he responds to medical questions on
s.m.c. If that was all he were, there would probably be no controversy.

The controversy arises from Dr. Chung being Christian, in particular:

o He publically professes to have accepted Christ as his Lord and Savior.

o He freely helps people to lose weight in an altruistic fashion.

o When attacked on the above issues, he turns the other cheek.

o When challenged about his faith, he witnesses in civil discussions.

o When insulted for his faith, he considers himself blessed.

o He remains truthful despite being libeled and defamed.

o Other Christians have affirmed his faith in Christ.

The above lists only the highlights of Dr. Chung's Christian behavior on s.m.c.. If anything, it
understates it. Everything can be verified in the Google archives.

The issue then arises: so what? As long as Dr. Chung provides free medical information on s.m.c.,
who cares what else he is?

Many people provide free medical information on the internet. How does one know whether it is
good info or bad info? If the person giving the info is, or represents himself to be, a doctor
shouldn't that be enough? Yes, it should be.

Medical education is enough to assure good information. Knowledge is knowledge. Experience adds
to knowledge.
Dr. Chung has both. Dr. Chung consistently demonstrates the breadth of his knowledge. This is
archived many times over in Google.

People arrive in this group looking for help. Dr. Chung has graciously provided this over
several years.

List of Questions Answered
--------------------------
1. Who is Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD?
2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the charter?
4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with that?
5. But it's just a little "Tag Line" in his signature.
6. But I'm a Christian too!
7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
8. But Isn't It Wonderful That Dr. Chung Offers This Free Medical Information Out of the
Goodness of his Heart?
9. How Does a Practicing Physician Find so Much Time to Spend on Usenet?
10. Won't Challenging Dr. Chung Drive People Away?
11. Doesn't the "Fault" for all Those Posts Lay With Those Who Challenge Dr. Chung?
12. Why Do I see So Many "Ad Hominem" Attacks?
13. I'm Sick of Seeing All This!
14. What is the Two Pound Diet?
15. Is Discussion of the Two Pound Diet "On Topic"?
16. Who is Mu?
17. What is Mu s Role?

1. Who is Dr. Andrew B Chung, MD/PhD?
--------------------------------------
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD is a licensed doubly board-certified Cariologist in Atlanta, Georgia,
USA. His signature contains a link to a website which is consistent with his posts and
qualifications.

2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
----------------------------------
The purpose of this newsgroup is to establish electronic media for communication between health
care providers, scientists and other individuals with interest in the cardiovascular field. Such
communications will provide quick and efficacious means to exchange information and knowledge,
and offer problems to solutions.

The sci.med.cardiology newsgroup will welcome participants who are health care providers,
trainees, researchers, students or recipients with interest in the field of cardiovascular
problems."

(ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/sci/sci.med.cardiology)

3. Aren't Religious Discussions Covered by the Charter?
--------------------------------------------------------
Possibly. See: heartmdphd.comhealer.aspOpen ↗

4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the Problem With That?
--------------------------------------------------------------
Some people are fiercely anti-christian.

5. But it's Just a Little "Tag Line" in His Signature.
-------------------------------------------------------
Yes it is. But it offends those who are anti-christian.

6. But I'm a Christian too!
----------------------------
And so you have Christ's promise of eternal life.

7. Well, Why Not Just Ignore his Christian nature?
--------------------------------------------------
Anti-christians are unable to do that.

8. But Isn't It Wonderful That Dr. Chung Offers This Free Medical Information Out of the
Goodness of his Heart?
----------------------------------------------------------
It is.

9. How Does a Practicing Physician Find so Much Time to Spend on Usenet?
------------------------------------------------------------------
God has blessed him with a quick mind and fast typing skills.

10. Won't Challenging Dr. Chung Drive People Away?
--------------------------------------------------
No. But it will give him the extraordinary opportunity to glorify God.

11. Doesn't the "Fault" for all Those Posts Lay With Those Who Challenge Dr. Chung?
--------------------------------------------------------------
Yes.

12. Why Do I see So Many "Ad Hominem" Attacks?
----------------------------------------------
Anti-christian folks can't seem to help themselves.

13. I'm Sick of Seeing All This!
--------------------------------
Would suggest you killfile the anti-christians. You won't see any as hominems from Dr. Chung.

14. What is the Two Pound Diet?
-------------------------------
See: heartmdphd.comwtloss.aspOpen ↗

15. Is Discussion of the Two Pound Diet "On Topic"?
---------------------------------------------------
Yes. It cures Metabolic Syndrome (MetS) which predicts cardiovascular morbidity and mortality.

16. Who is Mu?
--------------
A Christian.

17. What is Mu's Role?
----------------------
God only knows.

Comments and/or corrections to this FAQ will be taken under advisement.

On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 11:03:37 -0500, Bob wrote
(in message <[email hidden]>😉:

Quoted message said:

A. B. Chung FAQ said:

---------------------------------

Quoted message said:

The Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD FAQ | Version 1.0, February, 2004 |

---------------------------------

<LOL>

Now Chung posts the rewritten FAQ he did as a stand-alone posting. Hilarious. Oh, look, reviews.

"If you can only read one FAQ this winter, be sure to check out the one Chung wrote. Ok, so it's
self-serving, dishonest and poorly written. Lotsa wacko religious fundamentalist cult craziness.
Still, you'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll make sure not to go to a cardiologist in Atlanta. Don't
tell anybody the ending. Bwahahaha." New York Dimes.

"Dr. A.B.Chung has outdone himself with his newest posting. While so many of his others are
squalid and shabby, he has taken it to new heights (depths?) in his phony FAQ. It's always
wonderful watching a duplicitous craftsman at work. His one serious omission is that he seems to
have stopped saying that 2 pounds of potatoes contains 3600 calories." The Atlanta Journal
Constipation

"Chung is de man. He hops, skips and jumps his way around facts like a dervish on a mission, never
quite landing on one. He sure-footedly manages to miss the truth and even excuses his "friend"
M_alicious M_un as though it were in his power to do so. This is a must-read for all other
weasels, frauds, quacks, liars and well-paid Cardiotricians who talk about non-revenue-producing
websites that contribute the proceeds to charity." The Washington Poster

Bob,

I agree this should be "Required Reading" for everyone on sci.med.christianity and all the other
groups Chung cross-posts to... I might even post it myself (as a convenience to him, of course) :-)
It is hilarious!

It is so perfect that by trying to discredit the One True FAQ, he proves it :-) I haven't seen such
a credible performance since

--
Who is the humblest person in the universe? According to Chung, God :-) ROTFL! "I'm Humble!
Worship Me!"

Steve

Weeding the Lord's Vineyards Since 2003

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Introduction
------------
New people arriving in sci.med.cardiology (s.m.c.) are often puzzled and troubled by the
controversy surrounding the poster who posts as Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD (Dr. Chung) and want
to know what the controversy is about. This FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) attempts to provide
some answers.

The FAQ is arranged in typical FAQ form, i.e. a series of questions and answers. For those who
don't wish to read the whole FAQ, the following summary is provided.

Summary
-------
Dr. Chung is a licensed physician board-certified in internal medicine and cardiology. In this
capacity he responds to medical questions on
s.m.c. If that was all he were, there would probably be no controversy.

The controversy arises from Dr. Chung being Christian, in particular:

o He publically professes to have accepted Christ as his Lord and Savior.

o He freely helps people to lose weight in an altruistic fashion.

o When attacked on the above issues, he turns the other cheek.

o When challenged about his faith, he witnesses in civil discussions.

o When insulted for his faith, he considers himself blessed.

o He remains truthful despite being libeled and defamed.

o Other Christians have affirmed his faith in Christ.

The above lists only the highlights of Dr. Chung's Christian behavior on s.m.c.. If anything, it
understates it. Everything can be verified in the Google archives.

The issue then arises: so what? As long as Dr. Chung provides free medical information on s.m.c.,
who cares what else he is?

Many people provide free medical information on the internet. How does one know whether it is
good info or bad info? If the person giving the info is, or represents himself to be, a doctor
shouldn't that be enough? Yes, it should be.

Medical education is enough to assure good information. Knowledge is knowledge. Experience adds
to knowledge.
Dr. Chung has both. Dr. Chung consistently demonstrates the breadth of his knowledge. This is
archived many times over in Google.

People arrive in this group looking for help. Dr. Chung has graciously provided this over
several years.

List of Questions Answered
--------------------------
1. Who is Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD?
2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the charter?
4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with that?
5. But it's just a little "Tag Line" in his signature.
6. But I'm a Christian too!
7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
8. But Isn't It Wonderful That Dr. Chung Offers This Free Medical Information Out of the
Goodness of his Heart?
9. How Does a Practicing Physician Find so Much Time to Spend on Usenet?
10. Won't Challenging Dr. Chung Drive People Away?
11. Doesn't the "Fault" for all Those Posts Lay With Those Who Challenge Dr. Chung?
12. Why Do I see So Many "Ad Hominem" Attacks?
13. I'm Sick of Seeing All This!
14. What is the Two Pound Diet?
15. Is Discussion of the Two Pound Diet "On Topic"?
16. Who is Mu?
17. What is Mu s Role?

1. Who is Dr. Andrew B Chung, MD/PhD?
--------------------------------------
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD is a licensed doubly board-certified Cariologist in Atlanta, Georgia,
USA. His signature contains a link to a website which is consistent with his posts and
qualifications.

2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
----------------------------------
The purpose of this newsgroup is to establish electronic media for communication between health
care providers, scientists and other individuals with interest in the cardiovascular field. Such
communications will provide quick and efficacious means to exchange information and knowledge,
and offer problems to solutions.

The sci.med.cardiology newsgroup will welcome participants who are health care providers,
trainees, researchers, students or recipients with interest in the field of cardiovascular
problems."

(ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/sci/sci.med.cardiology)

3. Aren't Religious Discussions Covered by the Charter?
--------------------------------------------------------
Possibly. See: heartmdphd.comhealer.aspOpen ↗

4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the Problem With That?
--------------------------------------------------------------
Some people are fiercely anti-christian.

5. But it's Just a Little "Tag Line" in His Signature.
-------------------------------------------------------
Yes it is. But it offends those who are anti-christian.

6. But I'm a Christian too!
----------------------------
And so you have Christ's promise of eternal life.

7. Well, Why Not Just Ignore his Christian nature?
--------------------------------------------------
Anti-christians are unable to do that.

8. But Isn't It Wonderful That Dr. Chung Offers This Free Medical Information Out of the
Goodness of his Heart?
----------------------------------------------------------
It is.

9. How Does a Practicing Physician Find so Much Time to Spend on Usenet?
------------------------------------------------------------------
God has blessed him with a quick mind and fast typing skills.

10. Won't Challenging Dr. Chung Drive People Away?
--------------------------------------------------
No. But it will give him the extraordinary opportunity to glorify God.

11. Doesn't the "Fault" for all Those Posts Lay With Those Who Challenge Dr. Chung?
--------------------------------------------------------------
Yes.

12. Why Do I see So Many "Ad Hominem" Attacks?
----------------------------------------------
Anti-christian folks can't seem to help themselves.

13. I'm Sick of Seeing All This!
--------------------------------
Would suggest you killfile the anti-christians. You won't see any as hominems from Dr. Chung.

14. What is the Two Pound Diet?
-------------------------------
See: heartmdphd.comwtloss.aspOpen ↗

15. Is Discussion of the Two Pound Diet "On Topic"?
---------------------------------------------------
Yes. It cures Metabolic Syndrome (MetS) which predicts cardiovascular morbidity and mortality.

16. Who is Mu?
--------------
A Christian.

17. What is Mu's Role?
----------------------
God only knows.

Comments and/or corrections to this FAQ will be taken under advisement.

On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 11:03:37 -0500, Bob wrote
(in message <[email hidden]>😉:

Sorry, but I'm laughing so hard I choked on what I was eating :-)

Chung said:

Quoted message said:

8. But Isn't It Wonderful That Dr. Chung Offers This Free Medical Information Out of the Goodness
of his Heart?
----------------------------------------------------------
It is.

ROTFL! Oh, yeah, now _that's_ what I call "humble" :-)

--
Who is the humblest person in the universe? According to Chung, God :-) ROTFL! "I'm Humble!
Worship Me!"

Steve

Weeding the Lord's Vineyards Since 2003

Bob said:

A. B. Chung FAQ said:

---------------------------------
| The Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD FAQ |
| Version 1.0, February, 2004 |
---------------------------------

<desperately maniacal laughter snipped>

Quoted message said:

Introduction
------------
New people arriving in sci.med.cardiology (s.m.c.) are often puzzled and troubled by the
controversy surrounding the poster who posts as Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD (Dr. Chung) and
want to know what the controversy is about. This FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) attempts to
provide some answers.

The FAQ is arranged in typical FAQ form, i.e. a series of questions and answers. For those who
don't wish to read the whole FAQ, the following summary is provided.

Summary
-------
Dr. Chung is a licensed physician board-certified in internal medicine and cardiology. In this
capacity he responds to medical questions on
s.m.c. If that was all he were, there would probably be no controversy.

The controversy arises from Dr. Chung being Christian, in particular:

o He publically professes to have accepted Christ as his Lord and Savior.

o He freely helps people to lose weight in an altruistic fashion.

o When attacked on the above issues, he turns the other cheek.

o When challenged about his faith, he witnesses in civil discussions.

o When insulted for his faith, he considers himself blessed.

o He remains truthful despite being libeled and defamed.

o Other Christians have affirmed his faith in Christ.

The above lists only the highlights of Dr. Chung's Christian behavior on s.m.c.. If anything,
it understates it. Everything can be verified in the Google archives.

The issue then arises: so what? As long as Dr. Chung provides free medical information on
s.m.c., who cares what else he is?

Many people provide free medical information on the internet. How does one know whether it is
good info or bad info? If the person giving the info is, or represents himself to be, a doctor
shouldn't that be enough? Yes, it should be.

Medical education is enough to assure good information. Knowledge is knowledge. Experience adds
to knowledge.
Dr. Chung has both. Dr. Chung consistently demonstrates the breadth of his knowledge. This is
archived many times over in Google.

People arrive in this group looking for help. Dr. Chung has graciously provided this over
several years.

List of Questions Answered
--------------------------
1. Who is Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD?
2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the charter?
4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with that?
5. But it's just a little "Tag Line" in his signature.
6. But I'm a Christian too!
7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free medical information out of the
goodness of his heart?
9. How does a practicing physician find so much time to spend on usenet?
10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
11. Doesn't the "Fault" for all those posts lay with those who challenge Dr. Chung?
12. Why do I see so many "Ad Hominem" attacks?
13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
14. What is the Two Pound Diet?
15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "On Topic"?
16. Who is Mu?
17. What is Mu's role?

1. Who is Dr. Andrew B Chung, MD/PhD?
--------------------------------------
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD is a licensed doubly board-certified Cardiologist in Atlanta,
Georgia, USA. His signature contains a link to a website which is consistent with his posts
and qualifications.

2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
----------------------------------
The purpose of this newsgroup is to establish electronic media for communication between health
care providers, scientists and other individuals with interest in the cardiovascular field.
Such communications will provide quick and efficacious means to exchange information and
knowledge, and offer problems to solutions.

The sci.med.cardiology newsgroup will welcome participants who are health care providers,
trainees, researchers, students or recipients with interest in the field of cardiovascular
problems."

(ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/sci/sci.med.cardiology)

3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the Charter?
--------------------------------------------------------
Possibly. See: heartmdphd.comhealer.aspOpen ↗

4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with that?
--------------------------------------------------------------
Some people are fiercely anti-christian.

5. But it's just a little "Tag Line" in his Signature.
-------------------------------------------------------
Yes it is. But it offends those who are anti-christian.

6. But I'm a Christian too!
----------------------------
And so you have Christ's promise of eternal life.

7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
--------------------------------------------------
Anti-christians are unable to do that.

8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free medical information out of the
goodness of his heart?
----------------------------------------------------------
It is.

9. How does a practicing physician find so much time to spend on usenet?
------------------------------------------------------------------
God has blessed him with a quick mind and fast typing skills.

10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
--------------------------------------------------
No. But it will give him the extraordinary opportunity to glorify God.

11. Doesn't the "Fault" for all those posts lay with those who challenge Dr. Chung?
--------------------------------------------------------------
Yes.

12. Why do I see so many "Ad Hominem" attacks?
----------------------------------------------
Anti-christian folks can't seem to help themselves.

13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
--------------------------------
Would suggest you killfile the anti-christians. You won't see any as hominems from Dr. Chung.

14. What is the Two Pound Diet?
-------------------------------
See: heartmdphd.comwtloss.aspOpen ↗

15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "On Topic"?
---------------------------------------------------
Yes. It cures Metabolic Syndrome (MetS) which predicts cardiovascular morbidity and mortality.

16. Who is Mu?
--------------
A Christian.

17. What is Mu's Role?
----------------------
God only knows.

Comments and/or corrections to this FAQ will be taken under advisement.

You remain in my prayers, neighbor.

May you accept Christ as your personal Lord and Savior someday.

Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.comOpen ↗

--
Who is the humblest person in the universe?

makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗

What an enormous waste of time this is.

Read it? Pffft

=============================

Quoted message said:

Bob said:

A. B. Chung FAQ said:

---------------------------------
| The Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD FAQ |
| Version 1.0, February, 2004 |
---------------------------------

<desperately maniacal laughter snipped>

Quoted message said:

Introduction
------------
New people arriving in sci.med.cardiology (s.m.c.) are often puzzled and troubled by the
controversy surrounding the poster who posts as Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD (Dr. Chung) and
want to know what the controversy is about. This FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) attempts to
provide some answers.

The FAQ is arranged in typical FAQ form, i.e. a series of questions and answers. For those who
don't wish to read the whole FAQ, the following summary is provided.

Summary
-------
Dr. Chung is a licensed physician board-certified in internal medicine and cardiology. In this
capacity he responds to medical questions on
s.m.c. If that was all he were, there would probably be no controversy.

The controversy arises from Dr. Chung being Christian, in particular:

o He publically professes to have accepted Christ as his Lord and Savior.

o He freely helps people to lose weight in an altruistic fashion.

o When attacked on the above issues, he turns the other cheek.

o When challenged about his faith, he witnesses in civil discussions.

o When insulted for his faith, he considers himself blessed.

o He remains truthful despite being libeled and defamed.

o Other Christians have affirmed his faith in Christ.

The above lists only the highlights of Dr. Chung's Christian behavior on s.m.c.. If anything,
it understates it. Everything can be verified in the Google archives.

The issue then arises: so what? As long as Dr. Chung provides free medical information on
s.m.c., who cares what else he is?

Many people provide free medical information on the internet. How does one know whether it is
good info or bad info? If the person giving the info is, or represents himself to be, a doctor
shouldn't that be enough? Yes, it should be.

Medical education is enough to assure good information. Knowledge is knowledge. Experience
adds to knowledge.
Dr. Chung has both. Dr. Chung consistently demonstrates the breadth of his knowledge. This is
archived many times over in Google.

People arrive in this group looking for help. Dr. Chung has graciously provided this over
several years.

List of Questions Answered
--------------------------
1. Who is Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD?
2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the charter?
4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with that?
5. But it's just a little "Tag Line" in his signature.
6. But I'm a Christian too!
7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free medical information out of the
goodness of his heart?
9. How does a practicing physician find so much time to spend on usenet?
10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
11. Doesn't the "Fault" for all those posts lay with those who challenge Dr. Chung?
12. Why do I see so many "Ad Hominem" attacks?
13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
14. What is the Two Pound Diet?
15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "On Topic"?
16. Who is Mu?
17. What is Mu's role?

1. Who is Dr. Andrew B Chung, MD/PhD?
--------------------------------------
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD is a licensed doubly board-certified Cardiologist in Atlanta,
Georgia, USA. His signature contains a link to a website which is consistent with his
posts and qualifications.

2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
----------------------------------
The purpose of this newsgroup is to establish electronic media for communication between
health care providers, scientists and other individuals with interest in the cardiovascular
field. Such communications will provide quick and efficacious means to exchange information
and knowledge, and offer problems to solutions.

The sci.med.cardiology newsgroup will welcome participants who are health care providers,
trainees, researchers, students or recipients with interest in the field of cardiovascular
problems."

(ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/sci/sci.med.cardiology)

3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the Charter?
--------------------------------------------------------
Possibly. See: heartmdphd.comhealer.aspOpen ↗

4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with that?
--------------------------------------------------------------
Some people are fiercely anti-christian.

5. But it's just a little "Tag Line" in his Signature.
-------------------------------------------------------
Yes it is. But it offends those who are anti-christian.

6. But I'm a Christian too!
----------------------------
And so you have Christ's promise of eternal life.

7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
--------------------------------------------------
Anti-christians are unable to do that.

8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free medical information out of the
goodness of his heart?
----------------------------------------------------------
It is.

9. How does a practicing physician find so much time to spend on usenet?
------------------------------------------------------------------
God has blessed him with a quick mind and fast typing skills.

10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
--------------------------------------------------
No. But it will give him the extraordinary opportunity to glorify God.

11. Doesn't the "Fault" for all those posts lay with those who challenge Dr. Chung?
--------------------------------------------------------------
Yes.

12. Why do I see so many "Ad Hominem" attacks?
----------------------------------------------
Anti-christian folks can't seem to help themselves.

13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
--------------------------------
Would suggest you killfile the anti-christians. You won't see any as hominems from Dr. Chung.

14. What is the Two Pound Diet?
-------------------------------
See: heartmdphd.comwtloss.aspOpen ↗

15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "On Topic"?
---------------------------------------------------
Yes. It cures Metabolic Syndrome (MetS) which predicts cardiovascular morbidity and mortality.

16. Who is Mu?
--------------
A Christian.

17. What is Mu's Role?
----------------------
God only knows.

Comments and/or corrections to this FAQ will be taken under advisement.

You remain in my prayers, neighbor.

May you accept Christ as your personal Lord and Savior someday.

Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.comOpen ↗

antwrp.gsfc.nasa.govap960730.htmlOpen ↗ Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

Once In A Blue M_un said:

What an enormous waste of time this is.

For once, M-u S_hu P_ork, you have it down clean. That phony FAQ is a terrific waste of time. Chung
wrote it with his gift of fast typing (but slow thinking).

Quoted message said:

Read it? Pffft

Oh but just because it's a waste of time doesn't mean it isn't hilarious. The sheer phoniness of it
is even funnier than old Jerry Lewis movies or those zany Hillbillies living in Hollywood.

No, seriously...

Bob

Quoted message said:

=============================

Quoted message said:

Bob said:

A. B. Chung FAQ wrote:

> ---------------------------------
> | The Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD FAQ |
> | Version 1.0, February, 2004 |
> ---------------------------------

<desperately maniacal laughter snipped>

> Introduction
> ------------
> New people arriving in sci.med.cardiology (s.m.c.) are often puzzled and troubled by the
> controversy surrounding the poster who posts as Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD (Dr. Chung) and
> want to know what the controversy is about. This FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) attempts to
> provide some answers.
>
> The FAQ is arranged in typical FAQ form, i.e. a series of questions and answers. For those who
> don't wish to read the whole FAQ, the following summary is provided.
>
> Summary
> -------
> Dr. Chung is a licensed physician board-certified in internal medicine and cardiology. In this
> capacity he responds to medical questions on
> s.m.c. If that was all he were, there would probably be no controversy.
>
> The controversy arises from Dr. Chung being Christian, in particular:
>
> o He publically professes to have accepted Christ as his Lord and Savior.
>
> o He freely helps people to lose weight in an altruistic fashion.
>
> o When attacked on the above issues, he turns the other cheek.
>
> o When challenged about his faith, he witnesses in civil discussions.
>
> o When insulted for his faith, he considers himself blessed.
>
> o He remains truthful despite being libeled and defamed.
>
> o Other Christians have affirmed his faith in Christ.
>
> The above lists only the highlights of Dr. Chung's Christian behavior on s.m.c.. If anything,
> it understates it. Everything can be verified in the Google archives.
>
> The issue then arises: so what? As long as Dr. Chung provides free medical information on
> s.m.c., who cares what else he is?
>
> Many people provide free medical information on the internet. How does one know whether it is
> good info or bad info? If the person giving the info is, or represents himself to be, a doctor
> shouldn't that be enough? Yes, it should be.
>
> Medical education is enough to assure good information. Knowledge is knowledge. Experience adds
> to knowledge.
> Dr. Chung has both. Dr. Chung consistently demonstrates the breadth of his knowledge. This is
> archived many times over in Google.
>
> People arrive in this group looking for help. Dr. Chung has graciously provided this over
> several years.
>
> List of Questions Answered
> --------------------------
> 1. Who is Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD?
> 2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
> 3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the charter?
> 4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with that?
> 5. But it's just a little "Tag Line" in his signature.
> 6. But I'm a Christian too!
> 7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
> 8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free medical information out of the
> goodness of his heart?
> 9. How does a practicing physician find so much time to spend on usenet?
> 10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
> 11. Doesn't the "Fault" for all those posts lay with those who challenge Dr. Chung?
> 12. Why do I see so many "Ad Hominem" attacks?
> 13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
> 14. What is the Two Pound Diet?
> 15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "On Topic"?
> 16. Who is Mu?
> 17. What is Mu's role?
>
>
> 1. Who is Dr. Andrew B Chung, MD/PhD?
> --------------------------------------
> Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD is a licensed doubly board-certified Cardiologist in Atlanta,
> Georgia, USA. His signature contains a link to a website which is consistent with his posts
> and qualifications.
>
> 2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
> ----------------------------------
> The purpose of this newsgroup is to establish electronic media for communication between health
> care providers, scientists and other individuals with interest in the cardiovascular field.
> Such communications will provide quick and efficacious means to exchange information and
> knowledge, and offer problems to solutions.
>
> The sci.med.cardiology newsgroup will welcome participants who are health care providers,
> trainees, researchers, students or recipients with interest in the field of cardiovascular
> problems."
>
> (ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/sci/sci.med.cardiology)
>
> 3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the Charter?
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Possibly. See: heartmdphd.comhealer.aspOpen ↗
>
> 4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with that?
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Some people are fiercely anti-christian.
>
> 5. But it's just a little "Tag Line" in his Signature.
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Yes it is. But it offends those who are anti-christian.
>
> 6. But I'm a Christian too!
> ----------------------------
> And so you have Christ's promise of eternal life.
>
> 7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
> --------------------------------------------------
> Anti-christians are unable to do that.
>
> 8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free medical information out of the
> goodness of his heart?
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> It is.
>
> 9. How does a practicing physician find so much time to spend on usenet?
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> God has blessed him with a quick mind and fast typing skills.
>
> 10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
> --------------------------------------------------
> No. But it will give him the extraordinary opportunity to glorify God.
>
>11. Doesn't the "Fault" for all those posts lay with those who challenge Dr. Chung?
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Yes.
>
> 12. Why do I see so many "Ad Hominem" attacks?
> ----------------------------------------------
> Anti-christian folks can't seem to help themselves.
>
> 13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
> --------------------------------
> Would suggest you killfile the anti-christians. You won't see any as hominems from Dr. Chung.
>
> 14. What is the Two Pound Diet?
> -------------------------------
> See: heartmdphd.comwtloss.aspOpen ↗
>
> 15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "On Topic"?
> ---------------------------------------------------
> Yes. It cures Metabolic Syndrome (MetS) which predicts cardiovascular morbidity and mortality.
>
> 16. Who is Mu?
> --------------
> A Christian.
>
> 17. What is Mu's Role?
> ----------------------
> God only knows.
>
> Comments and/or corrections to this FAQ will be taken under advisement.

You remain in my prayers, neighbor.

May you accept Christ as your personal Lord and Savior someday.

Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.comOpen ↗

antwrp.gsfc.nasa.govap960730.htmlOpen ↗ Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

Bob <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Once In A Blue M_un said:

What an enormous waste of time this is.

<hiss>

Quoted message said:

Read it? Pffft

<hiss>

You poor guy.

You remain in my prayers, neighbor.

Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.comOpen ↗

--
Who is the humblest person in the universe?

makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗

Steve <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Bob,

I agree this should be "Required Reading" for everyone on sci.med.christianity and all the other
groups Chung cross-posts to... I might even post it myself (as a convenience to him, of course)
:-) It is hilarious!<<<<

You agree with anyone unwittingly standing at your side. Tell Bob who your lord is, and how much
he really would care for your agreement if he truthfully knew how much you really care about him
and his life.

Let go of him, all you are and what you are doing is transparent. Go find yourself a fool elsewhere
to play with, Bob's not one.

"A wise man fears and departs from evil, But a fool rages and is self-confident." NKJ Proverbs 14:16

Bob, become wise to the mischief being let lose by this man. He's is NOT your advocate, he thrives
on people's wavering strength in their faith.

Carol T

[email hidden] (Carol T) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Steve <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Bob,

I agree this should be "Required Reading" for everyone on sci.med.christianity and all the other
groups Chung cross-posts to... I might even post it myself (as a convenience to him, of course)
:-) It is hilarious!<<<<

You agree with anyone unwittingly standing at your side. Tell Bob who your lord is, and how much
he really would care for your agreement if he truthfully knew how much you really care about him
and his life.

Let go of him, all you are and what you are doing is transparent. Go find yourself a fool
elsewhere to play with, Bob's not one.

"A wise man fears and departs from evil, But a fool rages and is self-confident." NKJ
Proverbs 14:16

Bob, become wise to the mischief being let lose by this man. He's is NOT your advocate, he thrives
on people's wavering strength in their faith.

Carol T

Well said, Carol :-)

May God continue to bless you and yours, in Christ's name.

Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.comOpen ↗

--
Who is the humblest person in the universe?

makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗

Dr. Andrew B. Chung said:

[email hidden] (Carol T) wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Steve <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Bob,

I agree this should be "Required Reading" for everyone on sci.med.christianity and all the other
groups Chung cross-posts to... I might even post it myself (as a convenience to him, of course)
:-) It is hilarious!<<<<

You agree with anyone unwittingly standing at your side. Tell Bob who your lord is, and how much
he really would care for your agreement if he truthfully knew how much you really care about him
and his life.

Let go of him, all you are and what you are doing is transparent. Go find yourself a fool
elsewhere to play with, Bob's not one.

"A wise man fears and departs from evil, But a fool rages and is self-confident." NKJ
Proverbs 14:16

Bob, become wise to the mischief being let lose by this man. He's is NOT your advocate, he thrives
on people's wavering strength in their faith.

Carol T

Well said, Carol :-)

I agree. I especially like the part where she says, " Go find yourself a fool elsewhere to play
with, Bob's not one."

Seems a rather vivid contrast with Chung who's well captured with these words, "A wise man fears and
departs from evil, But a fool rages and is self-confident." NKJ Proverbs 14:16

Swaggering Chung and strutting Mu_cus rage and are self-confident.

Poverty of the soul, the two.

Bob

Bob said:

Dr. Andrew B. Chung said:

[email hidden] (Carol T) wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Steve <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...

>Bob,
>
>I agree this should be "Required Reading" for everyone on sci.med.christianity and all the
>other groups Chung cross-posts to... I might even post it myself (as a convenience to him, of
>course) :-) It is hilarious!<<<<

You agree with anyone unwittingly standing at your side. Tell Bob who your lord is, and how much
he really would care for your agreement if he truthfully knew how much you really care about him
and his life.

Let go of him, all you are and what you are doing is transparent. Go find yourself a fool
elsewhere to play with, Bob's not one.

"A wise man fears and departs from evil, But a fool rages and is self-confident." NKJ
Proverbs 14:16

Bob, become wise to the mischief being let lose by this man. He's is NOT your advocate, he
thrives on people's wavering strength in their faith.

Carol T

Well said, Carol :-)

<hiss>

Quoted message said:

"A wise man fears and departs from evil, But a fool rages and is self-confident." NKJ
Proverbs 14:16

<hiss>

Bob "raging and self-confident" Pastorio

You poor guy.

You remain in my prayers, neighbor.

May you accept Christ as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that you too may have eternal
life and all unlimited riches of God's kingdom :-)

Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.comOpen ↗

--
Who is the humblest person in the universe?

makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.comOpen ↗

Bob <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Seems a rather vivid contrast with Chung who's well captured with these words, "A wise man fears
and departs from evil, But a fool rages and is self-confident." NKJ Proverbs 14:16

The mystique of the Bible Bob is in its hidden meanings, For example; try putting it into a sentence
in reverse, The fool is confident and rages in the evil that the wise man has seen and feared.

The Bible gives us the opportunity to hear man's ways with ears to hear in God's ways.

There are one or two people who use the newsgroups who are soaked in evil ways, it comes across in
what and how they write, they can and do pull others into their ways. How many have you seen using
the newsgroups who stand in direct defiance of God's law and all He is? That is not general chatter
about Biblical texts, disagreement to the meaning, or even using verses to hurt others; but an
actual defiance of everything that is good and Holy in this world.

Remember Bob, someone who stands in direct defiance of The Word and all that is Holy _believes_ in
God. Steven _does_ believe in God, he's looking for those he thinks are fools amongst the blind to
serve himself and feed his ego.

Now, ask Steven to tell you whose garden he is weeding, if he claims it is 'your' lord's garden, ask
him where your master's book of wisdom can be found. Like the best chefs of all time a true leader
in the field will have collected life's very best and pleasing recipes to serve all future chefs
well. Steven will be proud to direct you to the word he follows, and will want to share it with you
if it is true to a happy, successful, content, and loving life.

It's a fool who believes the blind will remain so. Tell Steven to look elsewhere, that you are saved
by the blood of Christ and pray for this. Then you will see whose garden he stands in is not yours.

Carol T

On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 10:14:04 -0500, Carol T wrote
(in message <[email hidden]>😉:

<snip>

Until you speak up to condemn Chung's despicable attempt to smear Dr. Nagler as a pedophile, you
have no moral standing whatsoever.

Take your hollow preaching somewhere else.

--
Steve

Steve said:

On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 10:14:04 -0500, Carol T wrote (in message
<[email hidden]>😉:

<snip>

Until you speak up to condemn Chung's despicable attempt to smear Dr. Nagler as a pedophile, you
have no moral standing whatsoever.

Take your hollow preaching somewhere else.

For those who would lecture here about ethical, moral and religious issues, not condemning Chung's
vileness is tacit endorsement of his behavior. Without that statement, any pretense to biblical or
otherwise ethical value flies out the window.

Don't talk the talk if you don't walk the walk.

Bob

Sun, 08 Feb 2004 12:56:50 -0500 in article

Bob said:

Steve said:

On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 10:14:04 -0500, Carol T wrote (in message
<[email hidden]>😉:

<snip>

Until you speak up to condemn Chung's despicable attempt to smear Dr. Nagler as a pedophile, you
have no moral standing whatsoever.

Take your hollow preaching somewhere else.

For those who would lecture here about ethical, moral and religious issues, not condemning Chung's
vileness is tacit endorsement of his behavior. Without that statement, any pretense to biblical or
otherwise ethical value flies out the window.

Good point.

Quoted message said:

Don't talk the talk if you don't walk the walk.

Exactly.

--
Matti Narkia

Steve <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>>>> Until you speak up to condemn Chung's despicable attempt to

smear Dr.

Quoted message said:

Nagler as a pedophile, you have no moral standing whatsoever.<<<<<<<<

Who are you to call me to judge another in such a way? I only see who and what you are. You will be
judged for your own works in the end, and NOT by me! You have no need of my morality at what ever
standard you consider it to be.

I don't stand in the garden you weed in, it's behind me. Like any garden trying to grow in a shadow
cast by the great light of what's before it, it's poorly fed soil and nothing useful and good
thrives there.

Fortunately through Christ's blood the blind can come into the light and recognise the darkness
behind them for what it is.

Do you want to hear what is revealed about such matters of manipulative condemnation for others in
the Bible? .....

"He who is unjust, let him be unjust still; he who is filthy, let him be filthy still; he who is
righteous, let him be righteous still; he who is holy, let him be holy still." And behold, I am
coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work.I am the
Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last. Blessed are those who do
His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the

immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie. "I, Jesus, have sent My
angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the
Bright and Morning Star." Revelation 22:11-16

Carol T

8 Feb 2004 17:20:52 -0800 in article
<[email hidden]> [email hidden]

(Carol T) said:

Steve <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>>>>> Until you speak up to condemn Chung's despicable attempt to

smear Dr.

Quoted message said:

Nagler as a pedophile, you have no moral standing whatsoever.<<<<<<<<

Who are you to call me to judge another in such a way?

One could ask you that where in the hell do you think you are? FYI you are not in one of the
religion newsgroups, but in a science newsgroup. Your pseudo-religious drivel is not
appreciated here.

--
Matti Narkia

On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 20:20:52 -0500, Carol T wrote
(in message <[email hidden]>😉:

<Blah, blah, blah>

Until you speak up to condemn Chung's despicable attempt to smear Dr. Nagler as a pedophile, you
have no moral standing whatsoever.

Take your hollow preaching somewhere else. Besides being Off Topic in this group, it is a sham and
rendered meaningless by your double standard.

Your only redeeming quality is that you are an embarassment to Chung and an example of what he would
turn this group into. Go away before you embarass yourself further.

--
Steve

Who is the humblest person in the universe? According to Chung, God :-) ROTFL! "I'm Humble!
Worship Me!"

Weeding the Lord's Vineyards Since 2003

Carol T said:

Steve <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Until you speak up to condemn Chung's despicable attempt to smear Dr. Nagler as a pedophile, you
have no moral standing whatsoever.

Quoted message said:

Who are you to call me to judge another in such a way?

"Who" isn't the question, Carol. You claim to be Christian and moral yet you do not speak out
against immorality and unChristian behavior. You *did* speak against one recently and rather
strongly condemned him. In rather a bad judgement, I think.

Chung, Mu and the other sock puppets have been bent on destruction, malice, lying, hatred and ugly
tactics that affect people's real lives. You stay silent. The difference is stunning.

Everything else you say is empty raving. Either you speak for truth, justice and integrity or
you don't.

You pose as a person who knows how to live. Now it's time to show it.

All this rambling below is marking time and pointless posturing. That someday-in-the-future
afterlife picture you paint is all well and good, but we're in this world now and there are good and
bad things here, now. You have a responsibility.

Based on the passage below, murderers should just go on their way. Thieves should just keep on
robbing. Liars should just go on lying. There are no reasons to try to stop them. How silly to quote
this to justify inactivity.

If you don't walk the walk, don't talk the talk. It's all hollow.

Bob

Quoted message said:

I only see who and what you are. You will be judged for your own works in the end, and NOT by me!
You have no need of my morality at what ever standard you consider it to be.

I don't stand in the garden you weed in, it's behind me. Like any garden trying to grow in a
shadow cast by the great light of what's before it, it's poorly fed soil and nothing useful and
good thrives there.

Fortunately through Christ's blood the blind can come into the light and recognise the darkness
behind them for what it is.

Do you want to hear what is revealed about such matters of manipulative condemnation for others in
the Bible? .....

"He who is unjust, let him be unjust still; he who is filthy, let him be filthy still; he who is
righteous, let him be righteous still; he who is holy, let him be holy still." And behold, I am
coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work.I am the
Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last. Blessed are those who do
His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the

Quoted message said:

immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie. "I, Jesus, have sent
My angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David,
the Bright and Morning Star." Revelation 22:11-16

Carol T