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  1. Hi there.

    Our muni group met up with Craig of the soon-to-be-amazing 'Cape Bike
    Park 365' (http://www.mountainbike-lifestyle.com/). The ski lift
    assisted bike playground is scheduled to open in July this year. Craig
    has asked us for input on one of the trails - essentially, he wants us
    to design a downhill Muni track that he will incorporate into the
    park.

    So, what would you guys like to see in it? There is going to be North
    shore stuff (as part of the DH bike tracks), lots of dirt ramps, banks
    to ride up against etc. We are looking for ideas on specific types of
    obstacles that can be ridden and enjoyed by unicyclists (and bikers).
    For example, the skinny tree trunks should have a trail running
    alongside it so that less confident riders don't have to walk across
    the log.

    I have ideas for see-saws, round and flat skinnys, north shore
    elevations, gaps and drops, "rock gardens" (to weave through), rock
    gardens (to jump from rock to rock) and...?

    The construction materials will be mainly what can be obtained from the
    (pine) forest. Plenty nails and rope, spades, water, dirt and manpower
    will be available, but I don't think there will be much in the way of
    processed wood.

    So please fire away with your ideas! if you have specific designs or
    pictures of your ideas, please post them here or PM/email me: {john-e
    [at] webmail [dot] co [dot] za}.

    Oh, there will also be a "training" area for the bikers and a trials
    course. If you have any interesting designs/ideas for those areas,
    please include them🙂

    Thanks in advance!
    Johnny

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  2. get a fleet of trucks (or make a ton of trips) to a pallet recycling
    plant, good for trials, and you could make some cool obstacles for
    muni. plus,all the processes wood

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  3. Mate, I'm not into muni or DH as such, but HUGE props for running a high
    enough profile in Cape Town to be approached about this.

    Good work lad!

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  4. GILD said:

    HUGE props

    He is apparently 'down with the kids' though 😄

    But seriously, i've always wanted to try digging some dirt jumps
    suitable for uni, just small kickers with a downhill runout

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  5. kington99 said:

    He is apparently 'down with the kids' though.

    Aye, I've been hanging out here too much.

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  6. It was really great to meet someone who doesn't unicycle, but who is so
    enthusiastic about our sport. I was absolutely blown away when he
    offered to build what ever we wanted in a course and in a skills
    training area.

    I have some ideas, the thinking cap is on, and the propeller is
    spinning 🙂

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  7. GILD said:

    Mate, I'm not into muni or DH as such...

    Mate, sounds like a great life-skills opportunity to me. Kind of like
    summiting Mount KJ. Getonthatshit.

    My weak spot is DH...the theme of April is Practicing Downhill
    Cokerspeed (pdc). Maybe just maybe I'll be faster at RTL than I was at
    Uninam.

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  8. Great! maybe a swingy hang-brige would be nice. And tell them not to
    make helmets compulsory. Hope to be there soon.

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  9. kington99 said:


    But seriously, i've always wanted to try digging some dirt jumps
    suitable for uni, just small kickers with a downhill runout

    that would be awesome! but could a uni even get enough speed to get
    airborne? maybe with a geared hub?

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  10. please help the non-expert Muni people! so for instance:
    - provide small drops, then bigger, bigger, bigger and so on so we can
    learn
    - same for skinnies: start with larger (and on the ground) then
    skinnier and higher
    -same for descents: simple then steeper, steeper and more difficult

    having a progression in difficulties will entice people to learn: if
    too "hard" for beginners they will simply not enjoy the place. When a
    group plays there are different levels

    thanks

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  11. Tjorning said:

    that would be awesome! but could a uni even get enough speed to get
    airborne? maybe with a geared hub?

    a 29er can get quite some air off the right jump, especially if there's
    a good dropoff after it. I've noticed that bikes really don't have to
    go that fast to clear large jumps, if i have the time I'd love to play
    with the concept of dirt jump style course for unis.

    Also what Mr. Bear said, a good progression of courses, particularly
    for stuff which is dangerous/scary.

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  12. Tjorning said:

    could a uni even get enough speed to get airborne?

    The question isn't "can a uni get airborne", because we've all seen
    videos where unis "get air". Gears aren't necessary.

    The question is, how does one design a jump that lends itself to
    "getting air".

    Ramps on flat ground aren't super fun to ride (for myself) since one
    doesn't get much time in the air. Either the ramp doesn't get me far
    enough above the landing zone, or it's steep enough that I lose all my
    momentum just riding up the thing.

    As Kington et al have already said, a small ramp that ends at a
    drop-off is an ideal jump for wheels of all sizes: small enough that
    one doesn't lose much momentum riding to the top of the ramp, and with
    a drop-off in elevation (for more air time) and grade (for a smoother
    landing).

    If I were designing a muni course, EVERY negative grade transition
    would be preceeded with a ramp, kicker, log drop or somesuch other
    stunt. It's just fun!

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  13. Moepanie-Wurm said:

    And tell them not to make helmets compulsory.

    That ship has sailed.
    Wear your brain-bucket.

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  14. I'd aim to have a super steep section including lots of large rocks
    (rock garden) a shute, some ledges and variation between narrow (to
    force you to be acurate in your reading of the terrain and executing
    it) and wider sections so people can choose their own path and
    difficulty. It is this sort of terrain that seperates Muni from b*ke DH
    terrain. Maybe then when some b*ke guys try the muni section they will
    appreciate what we do. I'm not such a fan of the jumps idea, or even
    structures- a bit to gimmicy for my liking.
    mark

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  15. I get air all the time when I ride. Just going over a rock that juts out
    from the single with a height of about 10 cm will give you air. Not a
    huge amount, but you will travel about 30 to 50 cm in the air if you
    have some decent speed. Now hitting drops and going off ledges at good
    speed can give you a lot of air if you are going fast. You can also get
    good air with either shorter ramps or ramps with a 20% incline rather
    than a 45% incline. All depends on your speed.

    Unicorn

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  16. Thanks for all your input so far, i am making notes :-) keep the idea's
    rolling in ...

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