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  1. I've just reported the Department of Transport to the Advertising
    Standards Agency.

    They're running a radio ad around here that lists things you shouldn't
    do in case your child copies you and listing not wearing a cycle helmet
    between not wearing a seatbelt and using a mobile phone while driving.
    Since both those are illegal, it could easily give the impression that
    not wearing a helmet is also illegal, so I've complained that the ad is
    misleading.

    It seems to me like a way of bringing in compulsory cycle helmets via
    the back door and makes me very cross indeed.

    --
    Carol
    "If you are allergic to a thing, it is best not to put
    that thing in your mouth. Particularly if the thing is
    cats." - Lemony Snicket _The Wide Window_

  2. Carol Hague said:

    I've just reported the Department of Transport to the Advertising
    Standards Agency.

    They're running a radio ad around here that lists things you shouldn't
    do in case your child copies you and listing not wearing a cycle helmet
    between not wearing a seatbelt and using a mobile phone while driving.
    Since both those are illegal, it could easily give the impression that
    not wearing a helmet is also illegal, so I've complained that the ad is
    misleading.

    It seems to me like a way of bringing in compulsory cycle helmets via
    the back door and makes me very cross indeed.

    Well spotted.

    --
    Brian G
    www.wetwo.co.uk

  3. "Carol Hague" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I've just reported the Department of Transport to the Advertising
    Standards Agency.

    They're running a radio ad around here that lists things you shouldn't
    do in case your child copies you and listing not wearing a cycle helmet
    between not wearing a seatbelt and using a mobile phone while driving.
    Since both those are illegal, it could easily give the impression that
    not wearing a helmet is also illegal, so I've complained that the ad is
    misleading.

    It seems to me like a way of bringing in compulsory cycle helmets via
    the back door and makes me very cross indeed.


    Thanks Carol, I heard this on my local station and noted how misleading and
    inaccurate it was, but I'd forgotten to do anything about it by the time I
    got home. Can you complain to the ASA online?

  4. burtthebike said:

    Can you complain to the ASA online?

    Yes.

  5. On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:42:28 +0000 someone who may be
    [email hidden] (Carol Hague) wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:

    I've just reported the Department of Transport to the Advertising
    Standards Agency.

    The latter are useless in my experience, simply the PR arm of
    government departments. However, it's still worth a try.

    --
    David Hansen, Edinburgh
    I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
    http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54

  6. burtthebike said:

    "Carol Hague" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I've just reported the Department of Transport to the Advertising
    Standards Agency.

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks Carol, I heard this on my local station and noted how misleading and
    inaccurate it was, but I'd forgotten to do anything about it by the time I
    got home. Can you complain to the ASA online?

    You can indeed. There's a link on their How To Complain page to a form
    you can fill in :- http://www.asa.org.uk/asa/how_to_complain/

    Sorry for the slow reply, the ISP's been playing silly beggars.

    --
    Carol
    "If you are allergic to a thing, it is best not to put
    that thing in your mouth. Particularly if the thing is
    cats." - Lemony Snicket _The Wide Window_

  7. David Hansen said:

    On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:42:28 +0000 someone who may be
    [email hidden] (Carol Hague) wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:

    I've just reported the Department of Transport to the Advertising
    Standards Agency.

    The latter are useless in my experience, simply the PR arm of
    government departments. However, it's still worth a try.

    I don't know if they'll do anything, but if no-one complains they
    *definitely* won't. :-)

    --
    Carol
    "If you are allergic to a thing, it is best not to put
    that thing in your mouth. Particularly if the thing is
    cats." - Lemony Snicket _The Wide Window_

  8. (Carol Hague) said:

    I've just reported the Department of Transport to the Advertising
    Standards Agency.

    They're running a radio ad around here that lists things you shouldn't
    do in case your child copies you and listing not wearing a cycle helmet
    between not wearing a seatbelt and using a mobile phone while driving.
    Since both those are illegal, it could easily give the impression that
    not wearing a helmet is also illegal, so I've complained that the ad is
    misleading.

    Did they include driving 100m to the corner shop instead of walking /
    cycling?

    ...d

  9. David Martin said:
    (Carol Hague) said:

    I've just reported the Department of Transport to the Advertising
    Standards Agency.

    They're running a radio ad around here that lists things you shouldn't
    do in case your child copies you

    Quoted message said:

    Did they include driving 100m to the corner shop instead of walking /
    cycling?

    I suspect you will not be overly surprised to learn that they did no
    such thing.

    --
    Carol
    "If you are allergic to a thing, it is best not to put
    that thing in your mouth. Particularly if the thing is
    cats." - Lemony Snicket _The Wide Window_

  10. David Martin said the following on 21/11/2007 09:30:

    Quoted message said:

    Did they include driving 100m to the corner shop instead of walking /
    cycling?

    I always thought that was one of these urban myths - I mean, people
    wouldn't really do that, would they?

    Well, yes they do!!! Anything less than a mile and I don't even bother
    getting the bike out, never mind the car!

    --
    Paul Boyd
    http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

  11. Paul Boyd usenet.is.worse@plusnet said:


    Well, yes they do!!! Anything less than a mile and I don't even bother
    getting the bike out, never mind the car!

    I have about a 10 minute walk to take my 6yr old to and from Beavers.
    I've lost count of the amount of times other concerned parents have
    offered to take him for me. They look at me like I'm mad when I claim
    to actually enjoy the walk. Apart from anything else walking him home
    at the end of the night helps to calm him down after going ballistic
    while there.

    I've offered to walk theirs too, but none of them have taken me up on
    it 🙁

    Jen

  12. Paul Boyd said:

    David Martin said the following on 21/11/2007 09:30:

    Quoted message said:

    Did they include driving 100m to the corner shop instead of walking /
    cycling?

    I always thought that was one of these urban myths - I mean, people
    wouldn't really do that, would they?

    I have seen this many times.

    Quoted message said:

    Well, yes they do!!! Anything less than a mile and I don't even bother
    getting the bike out, never mind the car!

    I regularly walk a round trip over four miles down to the city centre
    and back, especially if it avoids cycling in rush hour traffic. IMHO
    walking around Bristol around 6pm can't be slower than driving.

    (Although other times I deliberately go for a cycle in the rush hour
    traffic).

  13. On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 07:13:42 -0800 (PST) someone who may be jen
    <[email hidden]> wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Well, yes they do!!! Anything less than a mile and I don't even bother
    getting the bike out, never mind the car!

    I have about a 10 minute walk to take my 6yr old to and from Beavers.
    I've lost count of the amount of times other concerned parents have
    offered to take him for me.

    Some of my neighbours drive to the shops. It must take three or four
    minutes to get the car out, drive along several roads, park and get
    to the shops.

    It takes two minutes to walk down the path and get to the shops...

    --
    David Hansen, Edinburgh
    I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
    http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54

  14. In article <e1087c2a-4e41-49c4-a73b-8a089de4afd7
    @y43g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:

    I have about a 10 minute walk to take my 6yr old to and from Beavers.
    I've lost count of the amount of times other concerned parents have
    offered to take him for me. They look at me like I'm mad when I claim
    to actually enjoy the walk. Apart from anything else walking him home
    at the end of the night helps to calm him down after going ballistic
    while there.

    Expect a middle of the night knock on the door from social services
    investigating child abuse ;-)

    --
    Tony

    "The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has
    taken place"
    George Bernard Shaw

  15. Tony Raven said:

    In article <e1087c2a-4e41-49c4-a73b-8a089de4afd7
    @y43g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:

    I have about a 10 minute walk to take my 6yr old to and from Beavers.
    I've lost count of the amount of times other concerned parents have
    offered to take him for me. They look at me like I'm mad when I claim
    to actually enjoy the walk. Apart from anything else walking him home
    at the end of the night helps to calm him down after going ballistic
    while there.

    Expect a middle of the night knock on the door from social services
    investigating child abuse ;-)

    My partner works for Social services , she can't get social workers to
    take calls or meet people in reception let alone raise themselves in the
    middle of the night!

  16. marc said:


    My partner works for Social services , she can't get social workers to
    take calls or meet people in reception let alone raise themselves in the
    middle of the night!

    Using the right magic words seems to do it. See Cleveland, Rochdale,
    Orkneys, Western Isles....

    --
    Tony

    " I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong."
    Bertrand Russell

  17. Paul Boyd usenet.is.worse@plusnet said:

    David Martin said the following on 21/11/2007 09:30:

    Quoted message said:

    Did they include driving 100m to the corner shop instead of
    walking / cycling?

    I always thought that was one of these urban myths - I mean, people
    wouldn't really do that, would they?

    There was a outraged letter in my local paper from some bloke whining
    about the traffic and insisting that 'they' should do something about
    it. It was no SO BAD, he said, that he had bought a bike because it
    was actually quicker for him to cycle the quarter-mile to the
    paper shop each morning than to drive! Preposterous!

    regards, Ian SMith
    --
    |\ /| no .sig
    |o o|
    |/ \|

  18. Ian Smith said:
    Paul Boyd usenet.is.worse@plusnet said:

    David Martin said the following on 21/11/2007 09:30:

    Quoted message said:

    Did they include driving 100m to the corner shop instead of
    walking / cycling?

    I always thought that was one of these urban myths - I mean, people
    wouldn't really do that, would they?

    There was a outraged letter in my local paper from some bloke whining
    about the traffic and insisting that 'they' should do something about
    it. It was no SO BAD, he said, that he had bought a bike because it
    was actually quicker for him to cycle the quarter-mile to the
    paper shop each morning than to drive! Preposterous!

    I recently read a letter in our local rag where a parent was
    complaining that the school did not provide parking spaces for parents
    because it is unreasonable to expect children to walk to school if it
    is raining.

    I am not making this up.

    M

  19. Paul Boyd usenet.is.worse@plusnet said:

    David Martin said the following on 21/11/2007 09:30:

    Quoted message said:

    Did they include driving 100m to the corner shop instead of walking /
    cycling?

    I always thought that was one of these urban myths - I mean, people
    wouldn't really do that, would they?

    Well, yes they do!!! Anything less than a mile and I don't even bother
    getting the bike out, never mind the car!

    On holiday in Fort William a few years ago, I walked off to the campsite
    shop to buy ice creams. As I set off, the chap in the neighbouring tent
    got into his car. I arrived at the shop just as the driver was coming
    out, carrying three ice creams.

    He said, "Sorry mate, I could've offered you a lift if I'd realised" (or
    words to that effect).

    Luke

    --
    Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in
    exile in Lancashire <http://www.shrimper.org.uk>

  20. "Ekul Namsob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Paul Boyd usenet.is.worse@plusnet said:

    David Martin said the following on 21/11/2007 09:30:

    Quoted message said:

    Did they include driving 100m to the corner shop instead of walking /
    cycling?

    I always thought that was one of these urban myths - I mean, people
    wouldn't really do that, would they?

    Well, yes they do!!! Anything less than a mile and I don't even bother
    getting the bike out, never mind the car!

    On holiday in Fort William a few years ago, I walked off to the campsite
    shop to buy ice creams. As I set off, the chap in the neighbouring tent
    got into his car. I arrived at the shop just as the driver was coming
    out, carrying three ice creams.

    Wot! didn't the fat bas*tard buy any icecreams for anyone else?!

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