doping was still

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Anquetil won the Tour five times in the idyllic era that doping was still
allowed.

Benjo

Anquetil was like Armstrong, we will never know in fact. it doesn't matter
but since armstrong American team that went in Europe to compete have a
very very bad reputation, they seem all junkies and snob

Of course they have a bad reputation - they never tested positive unlike the
French teams.

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Anquetil won the Tour five times in the idyllic era that doping was
still
allowed.

Benjo

Anquetil was like Armstrong, we will never know in fact. it doesn't
matter but since armstrong American team that went in Europe to compete
have a very very bad reputation, they seem all junkies and snob

Of course they have a bad reputation - they never tested positive unlike
the French teams.

i don't care that much about test or something, I am young and just watch
every tour since 80's, only, I know other that have watch the tour since 50
or 60 ',. we are all knowed about one thing, we have never seen a guy
clibing pyrennes moutain bebofe like that. so we are very sceptical

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Anquetil won the Tour five times in the idyllic era that doping was
still
allowed.

Benjo

Anquetil was like Armstrong, we will never know in fact. it doesn't
matter but since armstrong American team that went in Europe to compete
have a very very bad reputation, they seem all junkies and snob

Of course they have a bad reputation - they never tested positive

Both were.
Poulidor never, as I know.
It explain why, the french hated Anquetil so much, and Poupou was so popular
:
"Toute sa carrière sera marquée par cette apparence de mépris et de dédain,
source d'un malentendu effroyable qui a prononcé le divorce entre le public
et lui, un public qui le siffle à l'arrivée du Tour 1961. Mais Anquetil
encaisse en silence, et reçoit les coups où la pudeur, la modestie et la
timidité prennent toute la place, là où il n'y a aucune trace de dédain"

unlike the

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French teams.

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Anquetil won the Tour five times in the idyllic era that doping was still
allowed.

Benjo

Anquetil was like Armstrong, we will never know in fact. it doesn't matter
but since armstrong American team that went in Europe to compete have a very
very bad reputation, they seem all junkies and snob

French teams ejected from Tour for doping

Festina 1998
Cofidis 2007

American teams ejected from Tour for doping

None

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Of course they have a bad reputation - they never tested positive unlike
the French teams.

i don't care that much about test or something, I am young and just watch
every tour since 80's, only, I know other that have watch the tour since
50 or 60 ',. we are all knowed about one thing, we have never seen a guy
clibing pyrennes moutain bebofe like that. so we are very sceptical

Say, aren't you one of those guys who murdered anyone that looked like
royalty - that is - anyone that took a bath?

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> Anquetil won the Tour five times in the idyllic era that doping was
> still
> allowed.

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> Benjo

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Anquetil was like Armstrong, we will never know in fact. it doesn't
matter but since armstrong American team that went in Europe to compete
have a very very bad reputation, they seem all junkies and snob

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Of course they have a bad reputation - they never tested positive unlike
the French teams.

i don't care that much about test or something, I am young and just watch
every tour since 80's, only, I know other that have watch the tour since50
or 60 ',. we are all knowed about one thing, we have never seen a guy
clibing pyrennes moutain bebofe like that. so we are very sceptical- Hidequoted text -

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How many of your French riders put in 6+hours of hard riding from
November till the racing season and ride all the TdF climbs mulitiple
times, no matter what the weather? That was one of Armstrong's
methods. I read an interview with Bernard Hinault a while back and he
said the French riders weren't winning the Tour because they simply
didn't train hard enough.

Smokey

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Anquetil have never been appreciated, he looked a little like armstrong for
his elegant and cold manner, but his life was too short, I remember the last
summer he was speaker on TV for the tour, he just said one day that he had
to go for the hospital and we never saw him after.

Smokey said:

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>> still
>> allowed.

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>> Benjo

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> Anquetil was like Armstrong, we will never know in fact. it doesn't
> matter but since armstrong American team that went in Europe to compete
> have a very very bad reputation, they seem all junkies and snob

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Of course they have a bad reputation - they never tested positive unlike
the French teams.

i don't care that much about test or something, I am young and just watch
every tour since 80's, only, I know other that have watch the tour since 50
or 60 ',. we are all knowed about one thing, we have never seen a guy
clibing pyrennes moutain bebofe like that. so we are very sceptical- Hide quoted text -

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How many of your French riders put in 6+hours of hard riding from
November till the racing season and ride all the TdF climbs mulitiple
times, no matter what the weather? That was one of Armstrong's
methods. I read an interview with Bernard Hinault a while back and he
said the French riders weren't winning the Tour because they simply
didn't train hard enough.

Hilnault's diffinition of "hard enough" may include illigal substances.

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French teams ejected from Tour for doping
Cofidis 2007

As far as I know they 'ejected' themselves.

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> Anquetil won the Tour five times in the idyllic era that doping was
> still
> allowed.
>
> Benjo
>

Anquetil was like Armstrong, we will never know in fact. it doesn't
matter but since armstrong American team that went in Europe to compete
have a very very bad reputation, they seem all junkies and snob

Of course they have a bad reputation - they never tested positive

Both were.
Poulidor never, as I know.
It explain why, the french hated Anquetil so much, and Poupou was so
popular :
"Toute sa carrière sera marquée par cette apparence de mépris et de
dédain, source d'un malentendu effroyable qui a prononcé le divorce entre
le public et lui, un public qui le siffle à l'arrivée du Tour 1961. Mais
Anquetil encaisse en silence, et reçoit les coups où la pudeur, la
modestie et la timidité prennent toute la place, là où il n'y a aucune
trace de dédain"

unlike the

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French teams.

really?i dont know i thing it's just differet; in euorpe we prefered geg
lemon while on tthe ouher seain usa, they pefer armtong. perhaps because
whey are as snob like kim about european?

the Cofidis guy that put all this team out was'nt french att all, he is
italian.

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