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  1. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Rik Van Diesel) said:

    Howard Kveck <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<YOURhoward-
    [email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Amit)

    Quoted message said:

    "Kurgan Gringioni" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<dYOdnQfN2e_7lYXdRVn-
    [email hidden]>...
    > In order to compete for a win at the pro level most professionals feel like they have to
    > dope (unless they possess an extraordinary genetic talent).
    >

    cycling is like rock'n'roll - all the best performances are drug performances.

    Well, that's painting with a pretty broad brush. For example, look at Minor Threat (from DC).
    Those guys were at the forefront of the 'straight-edge' deal (no drinking, no drugs) and
    their shows are renowned for being powerful and generally incredible. On the other hand,
    another band from the same era and basic locale, the Bad Brains, were equally strong
    performers, but those guys smoked tons of pot.

    Damn it. THEY ARE LAME> Long day. I am retarded. 1 month ban on myself. RVD

    Young Whippersnapper, Ya missed one: "perfomance". Heh...

    --
    tanx, Howard

    "I'm not lying, I'm writing fiction with my lips!" Homer Simpson

    remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

  2. Howard Kveck schreef:

    Quoted message said:

    . On the other hand, another band from the same era and basic locale, the Bad Brains, were equally
    strong performers, but those guys smoked tons of pot.

    "WE GOT THAT P.M.A. !!!!"

  3. Rik Van Diesel said:
    Quoted message said:

    Well, that's painting with a pretty broad brush. For example, look at Minor Threat (from DC).
    Those guys were at the forefront of the 'straight-edge' deal (no drinking, no drugs) and
    their shows are renowned for being powerful and generally incredible. On the other hand,
    another band from the same era and basic locale, the Bad Brains, were equally strong
    performers, but those guys smoked tons of pot.

    Quoted message said:

    Damn it. THEY ARE LAME> Long day. I am retarded. 1 month ban on myself. RVD

    Hey Britney,

    You're just jealous you didn't see those bands back when they were awesome. I sympathize, I feel the
    same way about many classics, like Husker Du, or Ellington.

    In the meantime, whatever happened to episode 2 of the Horseteefus's Whisper? Episode 1 was freakin
    hilarious.

    -Ben actually used to play the "Husker Du" game as a kid

  4. In article <401a0c6e$1@darkstar>, Benjamin Weiner <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Rik Van Diesel said:
    Quoted message said:

    Well, that's painting with a pretty broad brush. For example, look at Minor Threat (from
    DC). Those guys were at the forefront of the 'straight-edge' deal (no drinking, no drugs)
    and their shows are renowned for being powerful and generally incredible. On the other
    hand, another band from the same era and basic locale, the Bad Brains, were equally strong
    performers, but those guys smoked tons of pot.

    Quoted message said:

    Damn it. THEY ARE LAME> Long day. I am retarded. 1 month ban on myself. RVD

    Hey Britney,

    You're just jealous you didn't see those bands back when they were awesome. I sympathize, I feel
    the same way about many classics, like Husker Du, or Ellington.

    Well, I think it can be easy to dismiss something as lame if you didn't see it during its heyday.
    It can lack the context of its proper timeframe. But if it rocks like Minor Threat or the Bad
    Brains, it oughta be fairly timeless. (There is a DVD of some MT shows, btw.)

    Quoted message said:


    In the meantime, whatever happened to episode 2 of the Horseteefus's Whisper? Episode 1 was
    freakin hilarious.

    It's true. Don't be holding out on us...

    Quoted message said:

    -Ben actually used to play the "Husker Du" game as a kid

    Never saw the game, but I put on a show with them...

    --
    tanx, Howard

    "I'm not lying, I'm writing fiction with my lips!" Homer Simpson

    remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

  5. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by Ewoud Dronkert

    BOn Thu said:

    Now back to the topic: I know for a fact that it is possible (at least in women's cycling) to be
    clean and to be at the very tippy top of the field worldwide in one day races. Now, for stage
    races I'm not so sure.

    But how about that mustache on Ljungskog?
    velopalmares.free.frljungskog2 aude 03.jpg [/B]

    Hey! Give a girl a break here - plenty of women have problems with unwanted facial hair without taking androgens - that's why there's a product called Vaniqa. And no, I don't ride for Red 5 Racing/Vaniqa.
    Anyway, I said it's possible to be at the top without doping, but I didn't say everyone at the top is clean...

  6. pedalchick said:

    Hey! Give a girl a break here - plenty of women have problems with unwanted facial hair

    I believe Heather occasionally has problems with unwanted facial hair -- occasional as in last
    April, and despite weekly supplication.

  7. Howard Kveck said:
    In article 401a0c6e$1@darkstar said:


    You're just jealous you didn't see those bands back when they were awesome. I sympathize, I feel
    the same way about many classics, like Husker Du, or Ellington.

    Well, I think it can be easy to dismiss something as lame if you didn't see it during its
    heyday. It can lack the context of its proper timeframe. But if it rocks like Minor Threat or
    the Bad Brains, it oughta be fairly timeless. (There is a DVD of some MT shows, btw.)


    It is. I last heard Bad Brains i against i about a year ago and it still entertained me like it was
    fresh. Not so for Quiot Riot.

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Kyle Legate said:
    Howard Kveck said:
    In article 401a0c6e$1@darkstar said:


    You're just jealous you didn't see those bands back when they were awesome. I sympathize, I
    feel the same way about many classics, like Husker Du, or Ellington.

    Well, I think it can be easy to dismiss something as lame if you didn't see it during its
    heyday. It can lack the context of its proper timeframe. But if it rocks like Minor Threat or
    the Bad Brains, it oughta be fairly timeless. (There is a DVD of some MT shows, btw.)


    It is. I last heard Bad Brains i against i about a year ago and it still entertained me like it
    was fresh. Not so for Quiot Riot.

    Did Quiet Riot -ever- entertain (besides laughing at their striped spandex trousers)? I Against I
    is a good one.

    --
    tanx, Howard

    "I'm not lying, I'm writing fiction with my lips!" Homer Simpson

    remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

  9. Robert Chung said:


    pedalchick said:

    Hey! Give a girl a break here - plenty of women have problems with unwanted facial hair

    I believe Heather occasionally has problems with unwanted facial hair -- occasional as in last
    April, and despite weekly supplication.

    you know, i've been completely away from rbr for a week playing a video game, but i did worry on and
    off about what you (or possibly ewoud) might be writing...i see you didn't let me down.

    i thought the idea was put forth that not all people respond to p.e.ds with the same rate of
    success, so if everyone is on p.e.d., it's not the same as if they were all on nothing, but i have
    no idea if that initial assumption is correct or not. heather

  10. h squared said:
    Robert Chung said:


    pedalchick said:

    Hey! Give a girl a break here - plenty of women have problems with unwanted facial hair

    I believe Heather occasionally has problems with unwanted facial hair -- occasional as in last
    April, and despite weekly supplication.

    you know, i've been completely away from rbr for a week playing a video game, but i did worry on
    and off about what you (or possibly ewoud) might be writing...i see you didn't let me down.

    i thought the idea was put forth that not all people respond to p.e.ds with the same rate of
    success, so if everyone is on p.e.d., it's not the same as if they were all on nothing, but i have
    no idea if that initial assumption is correct or not. heather

    People vary in their innate abilities just as they vary in their response to stimuli, whether performance-
    enhancing or not.

    For example, I don't think I could handle the stimulus of playing a video game for a week.

  11. Robert Chung said:

    People vary in their innate abilities just as they vary in their response to stimuli, whether performance-
    enhancing or not.

    For example, I don't think I could handle the stimulus of playing a video game for a week.

    i knew you would disapprove, but that made it even more fun.

    heather

  12. h squared said:
    Robert Chung said:

    People vary in their innate abilities just as they vary in their response to stimuli, whether performance-
    enhancing or not.

    For example, I don't think I could handle the stimulus of playing a video game for a week.

    i knew you would disapprove, but that made it even more fun.

    Disapproval? Not at all. Envy. Hope that doesn't spoil your fun.

  13. Robert Chung said:


    h squared said:
    Robert Chung said:

    People vary in their innate abilities just as they vary in their response to stimuli, whether
    performance-enhancing or not.

    For example, I don't think I could handle the stimulus of playing a video game for a week.

    i knew you would disapprove, but that made it even more fun.

    Disapproval? Not at all. Envy. Hope that doesn't spoil your fun.

    if it's envy that i'm able to be so easily amused, then no, not at all.

    if it's envy over my ability to handle the flashing lights and noisy sound effects, then stop. this
    is a game where you just calmly walk around and look at stuff. i haven't been to a movie theater for
    years because it's too dark and too loud and too big and too full and too bright. also, the sport i
    watch because i like it is bicycle racing, considered by those who have never bothered to actually
    watch to be as exciting as growing one's hair.

    those are the only two interpretations i can think of, sorry if it's something else, hh

  14. h squared said:


    also, the sport i watch because i like it is bicycle racing, considered by those who have never
    bothered to actually watch to be as exciting as growing one's hair.

    adding- i even found last year's women's wc road race exciting. it's easy to exceed my stimulus
    threshold, which brings us back full circle to the weekly supplication, n'est-ce pas?

    heather

  15. "h squared" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    if it's envy that i'm able to be so easily amused, then no, not at all.

    if it's envy over my ability to handle the flashing lights and noisy sound effects, then stop.
    this is a game where you just calmly walk around and look at stuff. i haven't been to a movie
    theater for years because it's too dark and too loud and too big and too full and too bright.

    You are a wacko.

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