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  1. As reported in CyclingNews. Complete article at
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2005/sep05/sep12news

    Manuel Beltran has already issued a statement denying the allegations,
    saying that "neither the laboratory of Châtenay-Malabry, nor the French
    state (through its Council for fight against doping and its prevention), nor
    WADA, nor the UCI should allow this situation to happen. It is very
    regrettable that some people and institutions betray all the legal and
    ethical principles that should govern their actions, while at the same time
    they ask me for an irreproachable behaviour - which I have shown in the
    hundreds of controls that I've passed without problems."

    All together now, "I never tested positive." Again.......

  2. B. Lafferty said:

    As reported in CyclingNews. Complete article at
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2005/sep05/sep12news

    Manuel Beltran has already issued a statement denying the allegations,
    saying that "neither the laboratory of Châtenay-Malabry, nor the French
    state (through its Council for fight against doping and its prevention), nor
    WADA, nor the UCI should allow this situation to happen. It is very
    regrettable that some people and institutions betray all the legal and
    ethical principles that should govern their actions, while at the same time
    they ask me for an irreproachable behaviour - which I have shown in the
    hundreds of controls that I've passed without problems."

    All together now, "I never tested positive." Again.......

    The director of WADA after submitting a sample for the presence of
    'Ethics'?

    -jet

  3. "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    As reported in CyclingNews. Complete article at
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2005/sep05/sep12news

    Manuel Beltran has already issued a statement denying the allegations,
    saying that "neither the laboratory of Châtenay-Malabry, nor the
    French state (through its Council for fight against doping and its
    prevention), nor WADA, nor the UCI should allow this situation to
    happen. It is very regrettable that some people and institutions
    betray all the legal and ethical principles that should govern their
    actions, while at the same time they ask me for an irreproachable
    behaviour - which I have shown in the hundreds of controls that I've
    passed without problems."

    All together now, "I never tested positive." Again.......


    Why would someone interested in the truth ride rough shod
    over the scientific method?

    Phil H

  4. "Phil Holman" <[email hidden]> wrote ...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Why would someone interested in the truth ride rough shod
    over the scientific method?

    http://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/feyerabe.htm

    --
    All men dream, but not equally.
    Those who dream by night in the dusty
    recesses of their minds
    Awake to find that it was vanity;
    But the dreamers of day are dangerous men,
    That they may act their dreams with open eyes to make it possible.
    -- T. E. Lawrence

    http://spaces.msn.com/members/flomblog/

  5. "Jim Flom " <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:j05Ve.225313$9A2.16486@edtnps89...

    Quoted message said:

    "Phil Holman" <[email hidden]> wrote ...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Why would someone interested in the truth ride rough shod
    over the scientific method?

    http://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/feyerabe.htm

    Except that BL will select the science that supports his rant.

    The article is 30 years out of date and a buncha [censored]. Typical
    philosophical whining; we live in a golden age and all PF can do is
    complain about all the yellow.

    If the test doesn't work, find a better test.

    Phil H

  6. Well, thirty years old isn't necessarily out of date. Many writings much
    older than that are international best sellers. The test is in the value.
    A friend of mine introduced me to that book a few weeks ago. It's still
    being read, and still points to out-of-the-box-thinking, especially in this
    post modern age that rejects science as absolute truth and acknowledges
    alternative paths to truth as viable. After all, "The reasonable man adapts
    himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the
    world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable
    man." -- George Bernard Shaw

    But that has nothing to do with Brian.

    JF

    --
    All men dream, but not equally.
    Those who dream by night in the dusty
    recesses of their minds
    Awake to find that it was vanity;
    But the dreamers of day are dangerous men,
    That they may act their dreams with open eyes to make it possible.
    -- T. E. Lawrence

    http://spaces.msn.com/members/flomblog/
    "Phil Holman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Jim Flom " <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:j05Ve.225313$9A2.16486@edtnps89...

    Quoted message said:

    "Phil Holman" <[email hidden]> wrote ...

    Quoted message said:

    >
    Why would someone interested in the truth ride rough shod
    over the scientific method?

    http://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/feyerabe.htm

    Except that BL will select the science that supports his rant.

    The article is 30 years out of date and a buncha [censored]. Typical
    philosophical whining; we live in a golden age and all PF can do is
    complain about all the yellow.

    If the test doesn't work, find a better test.

    Phil H

  7. On 09/11/2005 06:28 PM, in article
    [email hidden], "B. Lafferty"

    Quoted message said:

    As reported in CyclingNews. Complete article at
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2005/sep05/sep12news

    Manuel Beltran has already issued a statement denying the allegations,
    saying that "neither the laboratory of Châtenay-Malabry, nor the French
    state (through its Council for fight against doping and its prevention), nor
    WADA, nor the UCI should allow this situation to happen. It is very
    regrettable that some people and institutions betray all the legal and
    ethical principles that should govern their actions, while at the same time
    they ask me for an irreproachable behaviour - which I have shown in the
    hundreds of controls that I've passed without problems."

    All together now, "I never tested positive." Again.......

    Snore.

    --
    Steven L. Sheffield
    stevens at veloworks dot com
    bellum pax est libertas servitus est ignoratio vis est
    ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee sea eye tee why you ti ay aitch
    aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash [four ward] slash double-you
    double-yew double-ewe dot veloworks dot com [foreword] slash

  8. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "Jim Flom " <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:j05Ve.225313$9A2.16486@edtnps89...

    Quoted message said:

    "Phil Holman" <[email hidden]> wrote ...
    >>
    > Why would someone interested in the truth ride rough shod
    > over the scientific method?

    http://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/feyerabe.htm

    Except that BL will select the science that supports his rant.

    The article is 30 years out of date and a buncha [censored]. Typical
    philosophical whining; we live in a golden age and all PF can do is
    complain about all the yellow.

    If the test doesn't work, find a better test.

    "Jim Flom " <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:PD6Ve.269195$on1.131550@clgrps13...

    Quoted message said:

    Well, thirty years old isn't necessarily out of date. Many writings
    much older than that are international best sellers. The test is in
    the value. A friend of mine introduced me to that book a few weeks
    ago. It's still being read, and still points to
    out-of-the-box-thinking, especially in this post modern age that
    rejects science as absolute truth and acknowledges alternative paths
    to truth as viable. After all, "The reasonable man adapts himself to
    the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world
    to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable
    man." -- George Bernard Shaw

    But that has nothing to do with Brian.


    Or this particular test. What is sought is a foolproof way of detecting
    illegal substances. This requires looking under the microscope at the
    working stiff level. Experimental facts are rarely in dispute; only by
    those who wish them to say more than we should expect.

    Phil H

  9. "Steven L. Sheffield" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    Snore.

    Oh geez. Not you too. You know, between that and "Thanks," it's impossible
    to overstate my influence in this ng.

    JF

  10. On 09/11/2005 11:31 PM, in article Vo8Ve.225444$9A2.122549@edtnps89, "Jim

    Flom said:

    "Steven L. Sheffield" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    Snore.

    Oh geez. Not you too. You know, between that and "Thanks," it's impossible
    to overstate my influence in this ng.

    Oh, I just thought I was giving little Bri-bri a taste of his own ...

    But on second thought, it's a childish dismissal, so I'll discontinue.

    --
    Steven L. Sheffield
    stevens at veloworks dot com
    bellum pax est libertas servitus est ignoratio vis est
    ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee sea eye tee why you ti ay aitch
    aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash [four ward] slash double-you
    double-yew double-ewe dot veloworks dot com [foreword] slash

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