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Dave Larrington said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Alan Holmes

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Quoted message said:

MSeries wrote:

>Tony Raven wrote:
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>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/4601544.stm

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>WHat [censored] me off about that report was the fact that the BBC seemed
>to focus on the fnes rather than the fact that people were breaking
>speed limits and scaring the workmen.

What workmen?

The workmen who, according to the article in question, "had complained
about drivers ignoring the 30mph speed limit on the approach to the
Thickthorn roundabout"?

And possibly the same ones who display complete compliance to all
regulations and courtesy to other road users when driving their white
vans and assorted pickups.

Or is this somehow different?

Al C-F said:

And possibly the same ones who display complete compliance to all
regulations and courtesy to other road users when driving their white
vans and assorted pickups.

I think you're confusing highway labourers with builders.

I am a sometime worker on road construction sites, I do not drive a
white van or a pickup (the company van I use is a dark maroonish sort
of colour, though I used to use a white one). So far as I am aware, I
comply with all traffic regulations when driving, even when driving
the company van, certainly more so than the average person coming
through roadworks.

I would expect most frequent highway workers to have a higher
compliance rate than not - a good number of them, if they haven't had
a spell picking up the pieces, are working with people who have had
jobs picking up pieces and are happy to recount their experience in
technicolour, with a degree of relish. Anyway, it could hardly be a
lower rate.

regards, Ian SMith
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On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:46:45 -0000, "Ambrose Nankivell"
<[email hidden]> said in <[email hidden]>:

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You've got to admire his hypocrisy, though.

Not /as such/, no.

Guy
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Jeremy Parker said:

In many states of the USA penalties for traffic offences are doubled
if the offence occurs at a construction zone. I would have said that
the reasons for that are obvious, although apparently they are not
obvious.

That sounds like an excellent idea. From my experience of motorway
driving the speed limits set up through roadworks are more of less
ignored by nearly all drivers. The double penalty might just get some
of them to take them seriously.

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Dave...

Alan Holmes said:

"wafflycat" <w*a*ff£y£cat*@£btco*nn£ect.com> wrote in message
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"Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/4601544.stm
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Four hour speed blitz clocks 400
A single speed camera caught nearly 400 speeders in just four hours,
clocking up more than £5,000 an hour in fines.

The mobile speed camera was placed on the A11 outside Norwich, where
major road works are underway.

And guess what... who has jumped on the bandwagon to defend those poor
put-upon souls who were caught out breaking the speed limit & endangering
lives (on the road where Zak Carr was killed), yes, you've got it in one!

<http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/news/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=News&tBrand=edponline&tCategory=news&itemid=NOED11%20Jan%202006%2021%3A37%3A53%3A410>

"Speed camera group 'destroying respect'"

I get so damn angry when he gets this sort of publicity.

Why, if the police were to warn people they were going to fast, it would
give them the oportunity to slow down to comply with the law,

Let's see, there are known speed limits, even posted ones? Most cars
have speedometers and drivers are supposed to have passed a test to
show that they understand the connections. Yes, you're right, they
should have had a policeman waving a red flare at all 381 of the poor
drivers.

Quoted message said:

to send them a
notice _after_ the event is stupid, and only supports the notion that they
are there to make money, not to get drivers to slow down.

Right. It would have made much more sense to stop each driver and
confiscate the car 🙂 Then they'll get the idea. I understand that
illegal parking in N. Ireland declined drastically after the police
adopted the policy of assuming an illegally parked car was a possible
bomb and just blew it up.

Quoted message said:

Apart from which, those particular cameras are basically flawed.

Oh? And how?

John Kane, Kingston ON Canada

John_Kane said:

Quoted message said:

to send them a
notice _after_ the event is stupid, and only supports the notion that they
are there to make money, not to get drivers to slow down.

Right. It would have made much more sense to stop each driver and
confiscate the car 🙂 Then they'll get the idea.

I figured the best way to curb speeding is 1) hidden cameras and 2)
pull every speeder over and ensure they sit there for a couple of hours
before release.
You'd need a big car park though.

Quoted message said:

I understand that
illegal parking in N. Ireland declined drastically after the police
adopted the policy of assuming an illegally parked car was a possible
bomb and just blew it up.

"Sir, we understand that you wouldn't deliberately break the speed
limit so we'll just take your car away for tests. Have a nice walk"

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Apart from which, those particular cameras are basically flawed.

Oh? And how?

The operator, by careful (or careless) use can generate vastly
erroneous readings by 'wiping' the camera across the vehicles.

It is best to fix the camera to street furniture so that this effect is
ruled out and an accurate speed is measured. You also don't need to
have a bloke in yellow EN-wotsit standing there with a speed gun
letting everyone know. You can do the speed check a mile up the road
and pull the drivers in at an appropriate location.

...d

David Martin said:

You can do the speed check a mile up the road
and pull the drivers in at an appropriate location.

By which I mean operators of vehicles of whatever sort. Not biased
against air-polluting-resource-guzzleing-petrolheads at all ;-)

...d