Dole salads recalled

Janet Bostwick said:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9579649/

It's better to make your own--less hands in the salad, less opportunity for
contamination.
Janet

FWIW I have a Canadian link for allergy alerts and food recalls that I
find quite useful. The warnings come right into your email inbox if
anyone is intereste. I can post the links.

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Janet Bostwick said:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9579649/

It's better to make your own--less hands in the salad, less opportunity for
contamination.
Janet

It's not usually the handling that is the problem.
This occured once before and it was wash water contaminated with cattle
feces from a nearby feed lot.

Cheers!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

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Janet Bostwick said:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9579649/

It's better to make your own--less hands in the salad, less opportunity
for
contamination.
Janet

It's not usually the handling that is the problem.
This occured once before and it was wash water contaminated with cattle
feces from a nearby feed lot.

Cheers!
--
Om.

Isn't that a kind of handling that you would normally do yourself? When I
see a bag of spinach that is triple washed, I just interpret that as meaning
there is less sand on the spinach but I should still finish the job myself.

I have a problem with the prepared salads. I guess I just can't see how
they can be as healthy for you or as clean as something freshly prepared at
home.
J

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Janet Bostwick said:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9579649/

It's better to make your own--less hands in the salad, less opportunity
for
contamination.
Janet

It's not usually the handling that is the problem.
This occured once before and it was wash water contaminated with cattle
feces from a nearby feed lot.

Cheers!
--
Om.

Isn't that a kind of handling that you would normally do yourself? When I
see a bag of spinach that is triple washed, I just interpret that as
meaning there is less sand on the spinach but I should still finish the
job myself.

I have a problem with the prepared salads. I guess I just can't see how
they can be as healthy for you or as clean as something freshly prepared
at home.
J

By "healthy", do you mean nutritionally, or in terms of potential spoilage
which might cause illness?

Janet Bostwick said:

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Janet Bostwick said:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9579649/

It's better to make your own--less hands in the salad, less opportunity
for
contamination.
Janet

It's not usually the handling that is the problem.
This occured once before and it was wash water contaminated with cattle
feces from a nearby feed lot.

Cheers!
--
Om.

Isn't that a kind of handling that you would normally do yourself? When I
see a bag of spinach that is triple washed, I just interpret that as meaning
there is less sand on the spinach but I should still finish the job myself.

I have a problem with the prepared salads. I guess I just can't see how
they can be as healthy for you or as clean as something freshly prepared at
home.
J

The prepared lettuces/greens, sold by Dole in bags, should be washed
before using. I guess I thought everyone would know that. If you buy
your greens uncut, as in whole heads, what's to guarantee they won't
also have been watered with contaminated water? Nothing.

There really is no difference, in my mind, other than the bagged greens
are more convenient and more expensive. The bagged greens offer a
large variety of greens, without the single or "duo" consumer having to
buy a whole head or whatever of every individual variety in the mix.

N.

"Nancy1" <[email hidden]> wrote

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The prepared lettuces/greens, sold by Dole in bags, should be washed
before using. I guess I thought everyone would know that. If you buy
your greens uncut, as in whole heads, what's to guarantee they won't
also have been watered with contaminated water? Nothing.

Yeah, but they advertised their prewashed attributes pretty heavily.

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There really is no difference, in my mind, other than the bagged greens
are more convenient and more expensive. The bagged greens offer a
large variety of greens, without the single or "duo" consumer having to
buy a whole head or whatever of every individual variety in the mix.

Exactly, I wind up with all kinds of produce going bad because who
can eat that much salad in a week, not me. I don't care for the bags,
but I do understand why people buy them. Sometimes I'll get stuff
from the salad bar to bulk up a lettuce salad.

nancy

"Janet Bostwick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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I have a problem with the prepared salads. I guess I just can't see how
they can be as healthy for you or as clean as something freshly prepared
at home.

Why not?That head of lettuce sitting 10 feet down the aisle is no cleaner
than the bagged stuff so it comes down to what you do with it. In either
case, they were picked a long time ago, but the bas stuff was sealed. It
may be opposite your feelings. .

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

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Janet Bostwick said:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9579649/

It's better to make your own--less hands in the salad, less opportunity for
contamination.
Janet

It's not usually the handling that is the problem.
This occured once before and it was wash water contaminated with cattle
feces from a nearby feed lot.

Was this the case of the green onions imported from Mexico and left
standing in that water for a number of days in a fast food restaurant?

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Cheers!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

-bwg

Nancy1 said:

The prepared lettuces/greens, sold by Dole in bags, should be washed
before using. I guess I thought everyone would know that. If you buy

Why would you believe that any more than you would beleve that everyone
can, for example, whip up a batch of mayonnaise from scratch. Remember
that many (most?) people regard heating packaged food in a microwave to
be "cooking."

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your greens uncut, as in whole heads, what's to guarantee they won't
also have been watered with contaminated water? Nothing.

They may also have worms and other bugs.

Quoted message said:

There really is no difference, in my mind, other than the bagged greens
are more convenient and more expensive. The bagged greens offer a
large variety of greens, without the single or "duo" consumer having to
buy a whole head or whatever of every individual variety in the mix.

N.

-bwg

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In article <[email hidden]>,
"Janet Bostwick" <[email hidden]> wrote:

> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9579649/
>
> It's better to make your own--less hands in the salad, less opportunity
> for
> contamination.
> Janet
>
>

It's not usually the handling that is the problem.
This occured once before and it was wash water contaminated with cattle
feces from a nearby feed lot.

Cheers!
--
Om.

Isn't that a kind of handling that you would normally do yourself? When
I see a bag of spinach that is triple washed, I just interpret that as
meaning there is less sand on the spinach but I should still finish the
job myself.

I have a problem with the prepared salads. I guess I just can't see how
they can be as healthy for you or as clean as something freshly prepared
at home.
J

By "healthy", do you mean nutritionally, or in terms of potential spoilage
which might cause illness?

I'm thinking of something like prepared cole slaw mix. It just seems that
vegetables that are chopped and bagged for awhile, even in my refrigerator,
can't have as many vitamins as they started with. But then beyond that, all
those cut and torn edges must be degrading, on their way to spoiling. I
guess it's just me, I don't like the idea of trays of prepared deviled eggs,
already baked and bagged potatoes available at the store either.
Janet

I like the bagged salads--mainly because I can eat that amount of salad
before it goes bad. Whenever I have purchased individual items/heads
of salad fixings, I find an awful lot of the stuff goes bad before I
can get around to eating it. With the bags of salad, there isn't so
much waste.--r3

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> In article <[email hidden]>,
> "Janet Bostwick" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9579649/
>>
>> It's better to make your own--less hands in the salad, less
>> opportunity for
>> contamination.
>> Janet
>>
>>
>
> It's not usually the handling that is the problem.
> This occured once before and it was wash water contaminated with cattle
> feces from a nearby feed lot.
>
> Cheers!
> --
> Om.
Isn't that a kind of handling that you would normally do yourself? When
I see a bag of spinach that is triple washed, I just interpret that as
meaning there is less sand on the spinach but I should still finish the
job myself.

I have a problem with the prepared salads. I guess I just can't see how
they can be as healthy for you or as clean as something freshly prepared
at home.
J

By "healthy", do you mean nutritionally, or in terms of potential
spoilage which might cause illness?

I'm thinking of something like prepared cole slaw mix. It just seems that
vegetables that are chopped and bagged for awhile, even in my
refrigerator, can't have as many vitamins as they started with. But then
beyond that, all those cut and torn edges must be degrading, on their way
to spoiling. I guess it's just me, I don't like the idea of trays of
prepared deviled eggs, already baked and bagged potatoes available at the
store either.
Janet

You're right about the cut edges, which present more surface area to
bacteria which are all around us, all the time. As far as vitamins, I doubt
it makes much difference.

Janet Bostwick said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

Janet Bostwick said:

It's better to make your own--less hands in the salad, less opportunity
for contamination.

It's not usually the handling that is the problem.
This occured once before and it was wash water contaminated with cattle
feces from a nearby feed lot.

Isn't that a kind of handling that you would normally do yourself? When I
see a bag of spinach that is triple washed, I just interpret that as meaning
there is less sand on the spinach but I should still finish the job myself.

I have a problem with the prepared salads. I guess I just can't see how
they can be as healthy for you or as clean as something freshly prepared at
home.

Exactly. Same as pre-ground mystery meat. Strictly a convenience for
the otiose who can't get up off their butts to prep veggies
themselves... they can rationalize all they like about how lettuce rots
in their fridge but I don't buy it... you're not supposed to stock up
with lettuce for a month.

Those pre-sliced veggies are not only overly handled and exposed to
filthy processing equipment, they're also treated with powerful
anti-oxidants, how do yoose think they keep from composting in the bag.

Sheldon

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Nancy1 said:

The prepared lettuces/greens, sold by Dole in bags, should be washed
before using. I guess I thought everyone would know that. If you buy

Why would you believe that any more than you would beleve that everyone
can, for example, whip up a batch of mayonnaise from scratch. Remember
that many (most?) people regard heating packaged food in a microwave to
be "cooking."

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your greens uncut, as in whole heads, what's to guarantee they won't
also have been watered with contaminated water? Nothing.

They may also have worms and other bugs.

LOL...if you have ever put fresh-from-the garden broccoli in a sink
full of cold water and watched the worms glide to the top, you would
wash everything, no matter where it came from.

N.

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I like the bagged salads--mainly because I can eat that amount of salad
before it goes bad. Whenever I have purchased individual items/heads
of salad fixings, I find an awful lot of the stuff goes bad before I
can get around to eating it. With the bags of salad, there isn't so
much waste.--r3

There are ways of keeping the "fixings" from spoiling if you're only using
part of them. Clues are available simply by noticing which vegetables spoil
more quickly in the refrigerator.

1) Run the knife under hot water between each vegetable so you don't
transfer juices from one vegetable to another.

2) After washing a vegetable and using only part of it, make sure it's
thoroughly dry before storing the remainder.

3) Bell peppers should have their tops cut off and seeds & white ribs
removed. The white ribs decompose first, and will take the rest of the
pepper along in the process.

4) Don't peel an entire cucumber if you're only using part of it. Cut off
what you need and peel only that part.

5) Cut the juiciest vegetables LAST so the cutting board's not swimming in
liquid. If necessary, get a bigger cutting board so you can cut different
items further from one another.

6) Wash all your lettuce even if you're only using part of it immediately.
That'll minimize any bacteria which are already present and improve storage
time. Discard any leaves which look less than perfect. Use your salad
spinner to be sure the leaves are as dry as you can get them before storing
the unused ones. Wrap in paper towels.

7) Some refrigerators are too cold near the bottom and/or back. Tomatoes get
soupy at excessively cold temps. In your refrigerator, they may store better
on the top shelf in a bowl. Delicate lettuces are the same way, although
this may be evident only to a gardener.