Doh! I'm allergic to...

Chicken? Or preservatives/chemicals in chicken?

Up here, the state police have a network that connects accidental deer
kills with families with extreme allergies, as the wild deer have none
of the chemicals sometimes found in domesticated meat.

DJ Delorie said:

Chicken? Or preservatives/chemicals in chicken?

Up here, the state police have a network that connects accidental deer
kills with families with extreme allergies, as the wild deer have none
of the chemicals sometimes found in domesticated meat.

The guy who gave me the test said that probably because chickens are fed
grains, and I'm allergic to every grain.

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Bob in CT

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Bob in CT said:

DJ Delorie said:

Chicken? Or preservatives/chemicals in chicken?

Up here, the state police have a network that connects accidental deer
kills with families with extreme allergies, as the wild deer have none
of the chemicals sometimes found in domesticated meat.

The guy who gave me the test said that probably because chickens are
fed grains, and I'm allergic to every grain.

Bob, have you been given the antibody test for gluten?

Susan

Susan said:

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Bob in CT said:

DJ Delorie said:

Chicken? Or preservatives/chemicals in chicken?

Up here, the state police have a network that connects accidental deer
kills with families with extreme allergies, as the wild deer have none
of the chemicals sometimes found in domesticated meat.

The guy who gave me the test said that probably because chickens are
fed grains, and I'm allergic to every grain.

Bob, have you been given the antibody test for gluten?

Susan

No. Would this be a test ordered by a doctor? (I had my test performed
by a chiropractor/holistic health person.) I would not doubt at all that
I have a gluten problem. (Dang! No more low carb wraps!)

--
Bob in CT

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Bob in CT said:

No. Would this be a test ordered by a doctor? (I had my test
performed by a chiropractor/holistic health person.) I would not doubt
at all that I have a gluten problem. (Dang! No more low carb wraps!)

I'm kind of shocked that anyone would tell you you have grain allergies
and then not order an anti gliadin antibody test.

Yes, doctors order it, it's not some alternative thing, but anyone who
can order lab tests can order it.

Susan

Susan said:

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Bob in CT said:

No. Would this be a test ordered by a doctor? (I had my test
performed by a chiropractor/holistic health person.) I would not
doubt at all that I have a gluten problem. (Dang! No more low carb
wraps!)

I'm kind of shocked that anyone would tell you you have grain allergies
and then not order an anti gliadin antibody test.

Yes, doctors order it, it's not some alternative thing, but anyone who
can order lab tests can order it.

Susan

I'll have it done, then.

--
Bob in CT

Well, that leaves Rice and Fish with Walnut or almond butter.

But probably not Glutinous rice - based on the rest of the thread so far,
and you'll probably have to catch your own fish - to avoid farmed fish
that's been fed any grain...

Wow Bob - good luck!

lol

Steve

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eggs, cheese, pork, and chicken (along with every grain -- except rice --
known to man). This makes meal planning a bit rough. (Oh yeah, and milk
and peanut butter -- no more peanut butter? That sucks!)

--
Bob in CT

Bob in CT said:

Susan said:

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Bob in CT said:

No. Would this be a test ordered by a doctor? (I had my test
performed by a chiropractor/holistic health person.) I would not
doubt at all that I have a gluten problem. (Dang! No more low
carb wraps!)

I'm kind of shocked that anyone would tell you you have grain
allergies and then not order an anti gliadin antibody test.

Yes, doctors order it, it's not some alternative thing, but anyone
who can order lab tests can order it.

Susan

I'll have it done, then.

I would consider seeing a "Real Doctor" before accepting the fact that
there is little on Earth that you can eat safely.

Unless you are already dead and living as a zombie. Then food allergies
aren't such a big deal in your Zombie life.

Actually, I have very little faith in licensed MDs (they're the ones who
believe in "bad" and "good" cholesterol and would recommend eating a low
fat diet and following the food pyramid). My wife's brother's wife
(sister in law?) had the exact same test performed, reduced the amount of
foods to which she was allergic, and felt terrific.

And, I'm not allergic to everything on earth. He tested 54 items from
grains, fish, seafood, meats, dairy, and misc. items. Of 54 items, I'm
allergic to 22 items, of which the vast majority (13) are in the grain
category.

Next week, I'm going to avoid eating the foods on this list to which I am
allergic. I'm going to give this a shot for at least three weeks
(remember induction?). Then, I'll report back.

PB said:

Bob,
How was this test done? I strongly urge you to see a licensed MD before
taking this for a fact.
If these are things you have been eating or using all along I find is
highly
suspect that you are allergic to all of them. Unless of course you have
been
displaying some type of symptoms?
Even then it is highly suspect that you are allergic to everything on
earth.

Pat
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Bob in CT said:

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 13:37:47 -0400, Susan <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>
> Bob in CT wrote:
>
>> No. Would this be a test ordered by a doctor? (I had my test
>> performed by a chiropractor/holistic health person.) I would not
>> doubt at all that I have a gluten problem. (Dang! No more low carb
>> wraps!)
>>
>
> I'm kind of shocked that anyone would tell you you have grain
> allergies
> and then not order an anti gliadin antibody test.
>
> Yes, doctors order it, it's not some alternative thing, but anyone who
> can order lab tests can order it.
>
> Susan

I'll have it done, then.

I would consider seeing a "Real Doctor" before accepting the fact that
there is little on Earth that you can eat safely.

Unless you are already dead and living as a zombie. Then food allergies
aren't such a big deal in your Zombie life.

--
Bob in CT

Bob,
How was this test done? I strongly urge you to see a licensed MD before
taking this for a fact.
If these are things you have been eating or using all along I find is highly
suspect that you are allergic to all of them. Unless of course you have been
displaying some type of symptoms?
Even then it is highly suspect that you are allergic to everything on earth.

Pat
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Bob in CT said:

Susan said:

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Bob in CT wrote:

> No. Would this be a test ordered by a doctor? (I had my test
> performed by a chiropractor/holistic health person.) I would not
> doubt at all that I have a gluten problem. (Dang! No more low carb
> wraps!)
>

I'm kind of shocked that anyone would tell you you have grain allergies
and then not order an anti gliadin antibody test.

Yes, doctors order it, it's not some alternative thing, but anyone who
can order lab tests can order it.

Susan

I'll have it done, then.

I would consider seeing a "Real Doctor" before accepting the fact that
there is little on Earth that you can eat safely.

Unless you are already dead and living as a zombie. Then food allergies
aren't such a big deal in your Zombie life.

Bob in CT said:

And, I'm not allergic to everything on earth. He tested 54 items from
grains, fish, seafood, meats, dairy, and misc. items. Of 54 items,
I'm allergic to 22 items, of which the vast majority (13) are in the
grain category.

A chiropractor tested me for food allergies back in 1991 or so, using
samples and muscle-testing (kinesiology), which some people consider
hoodoo. I don't remember the list exactly, but looking back, the ones
I remember being allergic to were all carby foods: wheat, sugar,
potatoes, onions. (Onions aren't real high, but they're higher than
many vegetables; we just don't usually eat them in large enough
quantities to matter.) I cut them out of my diet for a few months,
felt much better, and lost quite a bit of weight. I was low-carbing
(imperfectly) without knowing it.

Was I really "allergic" to those foods, or was my body responding to
the carbs and saying, "Please, no more"? Is there a difference? I'm
confident that my chiropractor then believed the results were real,
but exactly *why* those foods triggered a reaction might be debatable.
If something makes me sick and tired, I guess it doesn't matter
whether I have an allergy to it or am unable to process it correctly
without unpleasant side-effects: either way I shouldn't be eating it.

--
Aaron -- 285/235/200 -- http://aaron.baugher.biz/

"If you hear hoofbeats, you just go ahead and think horsies, not
zebras."

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Bob in CT said:

Susan said:

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Bob in CT wrote:

> No. Would this be a test ordered by a doctor? (I had my test
> performed by a chiropractor/holistic health person.) I would not
> doubt at all that I have a gluten problem. (Dang! No more low
> carb wraps!)
>

I'm kind of shocked that anyone would tell you you have grain
allergies and then not order an anti gliadin antibody test.

Yes, doctors order it, it's not some alternative thing, but anyone
who can order lab tests can order it.

Susan

I'll have it done, then.

I would consider seeing a "Real Doctor" before accepting the fact that
there is little on Earth that you can eat safely.

Especially if your healer starts trying to sell you special food
products.

Bob in CT said:

eggs, cheese, pork, and chicken (along with every grain -- except rice --
known to man). This makes meal planning a bit rough. (Oh yeah, and milk
and peanut butter -- no more peanut butter? That sucks!)

--
Bob in CT

My friend, a doctor, had an allergy test done and was allergic to a
ton of things that she was eating. She did some research, found out
that allergy tests are wrong 50% of the time. Got retested, and was
allergic to a much smaller panel of stuff.

I would strongly suggest a retest in a more traditional medical
setting, regardless of your opinions of the traditional medicine
industry.

PS- Dr. Atkins was a real doctor. As are Dr & Dr Eades. And Dr. Mary
Vernon. And others. They're not all food pyramid morons.

Hollywood wrote:
:: On Mar 28, 11:10 am, "Bob in CT" <[email hidden]> wrote:
::: eggs, cheese, pork, and chicken (along with every grain -- except
::: rice -- known to man). This makes meal planning a bit rough. (Oh
::: yeah, and milk and peanut butter -- no more peanut butter? That
::: sucks!)
:::
::: --
::: Bob in CT
::
:: My friend, a doctor, had an allergy test done and was allergic to a
:: ton of things that she was eating. She did some research, found out
:: that allergy tests are wrong 50% of the time. Got retested, and was
:: allergic to a much smaller panel of stuff.
::
:: I would strongly suggest a retest in a more traditional medical
:: setting, regardless of your opinions of the traditional medicine
:: industry.

I strongly agree with this. While the medical community is seemingly out of
whack on some things, they are not, as a rule, just a bunch of bozos. Some
self-education on this topic will help you do a better job of zeroing in on
what's really the issue. Restricting oneself unnecessarily is likely to be
bad idea. Especially when based on one test. Let's get some double or
triple confirmation here after doing some self-ed (as others are providing).

::
:: PS- Dr. Atkins was a real doctor. As are Dr & Dr Eades. And Dr. Mary
:: Vernon. And others. They're not all food pyramid morons.

Bob..... when i had my allergy tests run,
EVERYTHING that i had eaten in the prior week
turned up as 'allergic to' on my tests, plus a few
things i hadn't eaten (3 pages, 3 columns per
page)............ i tossed the list out, and just
watched what 'combination of foods' caused me the
most distress and avoided them from there on in

i've been fine...... just using common sense,
rather than deleting all foods from my diet (ps, i
WAS allergic to the rice too)

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On Mar 28, 11:10 am, "Bob in CT"

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eggs, cheese, pork, and chicken (along with

every grain -- except rice --

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known to man). This makes meal planning a bit

rough. (Oh yeah, and milk

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and peanut butter -- no more peanut butter?

That sucks!)

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Bob in CT

My friend, a doctor, had an allergy test done

and was allergic to a

Quoted message said:

ton of things that she was eating. She did some

research, found out

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that allergy tests are wrong 50% of the time.

Got retested, and was

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allergic to a much smaller panel of stuff.

I would strongly suggest a retest in a more

traditional medical

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setting, regardless of your opinions of the

traditional medicine

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industry.

PS- Dr. Atkins was a real doctor. As are Dr & Dr

Eades. And Dr. Mary

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Vernon. And others. They're not all food pyramid

morons.

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I agree.

Stay away from the voodoo doctors.

PB said:

Bob,
How was this test done? I strongly urge you to see a licensed MD before
taking this for a fact.
If these are things you have been eating or using all along I find is highly
suspect that you are allergic to all of them. Unless of course you have been
displaying some type of symptoms?
Even then it is highly suspect that you are allergic to everything on earth.

Pat
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Bob in CT said:

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 13:37:47 -0400, Susan <[email hidden]> wrote:

> x-no-archive: yes
>
> Bob in CT wrote:
>
>> No. Would this be a test ordered by a doctor? (I had my test
>> performed by a chiropractor/holistic health person.) I would not
>> doubt at all that I have a gluten problem. (Dang! No more low carb
>> wraps!)
>>
>
> I'm kind of shocked that anyone would tell you you have grain allergies
> and then not order an anti gliadin antibody test.
>
> Yes, doctors order it, it's not some alternative thing, but anyone who
> can order lab tests can order it.
>
> Susan

I'll have it done, then.

I would consider seeing a "Real Doctor" before accepting the fact that
there is little on Earth that you can eat safely.

Unless you are already dead and living as a zombie. Then food allergies
aren't such a big deal in your Zombie life.

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:07:02 -0400, Roger Zoul <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Hollywood wrote:
:: On Mar 28, 11:10 am, "Bob in CT" <[email hidden]> wrote:
::: eggs, cheese, pork, and chicken (along with every grain -- except
::: rice -- known to man). This makes meal planning a bit rough. (Oh
::: yeah, and milk and peanut butter -- no more peanut butter? That
::: sucks!)
:::
::: --
::: Bob in CT
::
:: My friend, a doctor, had an allergy test done and was allergic to a
:: ton of things that she was eating. She did some research, found out
:: that allergy tests are wrong 50% of the time. Got retested, and was
:: allergic to a much smaller panel of stuff.
::
:: I would strongly suggest a retest in a more traditional medical
:: setting, regardless of your opinions of the traditional medicine
:: industry.

I strongly agree with this. While the medical community is seemingly
out of
whack on some things, they are not, as a rule, just a bunch of bozos.
Some
self-education on this topic will help you do a better job of zeroing in
on
what's really the issue. Restricting oneself unnecessarily is likely to
be
bad idea. Especially when based on one test. Let's get some double or
triple confirmation here after doing some self-ed (as others are
providing).

::
:: PS- Dr. Atkins was a real doctor. As are Dr & Dr Eades. And Dr. Mary
:: Vernon. And others. They're not all food pyramid morons.

Ah, it wasn't an allergy test (my mistake). Regardless of your ideas, I'm
going to cut out this stuff for a while. I'm sorry I post this, as all I
get are people who critique for no good reason. I'll be gone for another
few months, as I can't take this negativity.

I realize that Atkins and Eades are good doctors, but teh vast majority of
them are not. Take my primary care physician, who examines my LDL level
with the utmost case, yet hasn't said anything about my blood sugar being

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100 two years in row! And there are tons of morons like him.

--
Bob in CT

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Bob in CT said:

Ah, it wasn't an allergy test (my mistake). Regardless of your ideas,
I'm going to cut out this stuff for a while. I'm sorry I post this, as
all I get are people who critique for no good reason. I'll be gone for
another few months, as I can't take this negativity.

I thought you got an interesting discussion and some information.

Is back slapping all you want instead?

Susan

Bob in CT wrote:
:: On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:07:02 -0400, Roger Zoul
:: <[email hidden]> wrote:
::
::: Hollywood wrote:
::::: On Mar 28, 11:10 am, "Bob in CT" <[email hidden]> wrote:
:::::: eggs, cheese, pork, and chicken (along with every grain -- except
:::::: rice -- known to man). This makes meal planning a bit rough.
:::::: (Oh yeah, and milk and peanut butter -- no more peanut butter?
:::::: That sucks!)
::::::
:::::: --
:::::: Bob in CT
:::::
::::: My friend, a doctor, had an allergy test done and was allergic to
::::: a ton of things that she was eating. She did some research, found
::::: out that allergy tests are wrong 50% of the time. Got retested,
::::: and was allergic to a much smaller panel of stuff.
:::::
::::: I would strongly suggest a retest in a more traditional medical
::::: setting, regardless of your opinions of the traditional medicine
::::: industry.
:::
::: I strongly agree with this. While the medical community is
::: seemingly out of
::: whack on some things, they are not, as a rule, just a bunch of
::: bozos. Some
::: self-education on this topic will help you do a better job of
::: zeroing in on
::: what's really the issue. Restricting oneself unnecessarily is
::: likely to be
::: bad idea. Especially when based on one test. Let's get some
::: double or triple confirmation here after doing some self-ed (as
::: others are providing).
:::
:::::
::::: PS- Dr. Atkins was a real doctor. As are Dr & Dr Eades. And Dr.
::::: Mary Vernon. And others. They're not all food pyramid morons.
:::
:::
:: Ah, it wasn't an allergy test (my mistake). Regardless of your
:: ideas, I'm going to cut out this stuff for a while. I'm sorry I
:: post this, as all I get are people who critique for no good reason.
:: I'll be gone for another few months, as I can't take this negativity.

What negativity are you referring to?

::
:: I realize that Atkins and Eades are good doctors, but teh vast
:: majority of them are not. Take my primary care physician, who
:: examines my LDL level with the utmost case, yet hasn't said anything
:: about my blood sugar being
::: 100 two years in row! And there are tons of morons like him.
::
::
:: --
:: Bob in CT