Me: "Hi, you used to have a leather Meindl boot." Assistant: "Yes." Me: "Do you still have it, please?" Assistant: "I don't think we've *ever* had a leather Meindl boot." Me: "You definitely have - I've had it on my foot."
At that moment, I notice the Meindl Burma sitting at the back of a shelf, and pick it up.
Me: "Oh, here it is." Assistant: "No, that's a fabric boot." Me: "Erm... no it isn't, it's leather."
I pass it to the assistant.
Assistant: "That's fabric - it's Nubuck." Me: "Nubuck is leather..." Assistant: "Oh.... well it isn't brown. Most people mean brown boots when they ask for leather." Me: "....!?"
Bitstring <[email hidden]>, from the wonderful person Peewiglet <[email hidden]> said
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Conversation in Black's earlier today.
Me: "Hi, you used to have a leather Meindl boot." Assistant: "Yes." Me: "Do you still have it, please?" Assistant: "I don't think we've *ever* had a leather Meindl boot." Me: "You definitely have - I've had it on my foot."
At that moment, I notice the Meindl Burma sitting at the back of a shelf, and pick it up.
Me: "Oh, here it is." Assistant: "No, that's a fabric boot." Me: "Erm... no it isn't, it's leather."
I pass it to the assistant.
Assistant: "That's fabric - it's Nubuck." Me: "Nubuck is leather..." Assistant: "Oh.... well it isn't brown. Most people mean brown boots when they ask for leather." Me: "....!?"
Your perseverance in the face of Massive Ignorance amazes me. I'd have left somewhere after sentence #3 and looked for a shop with assistants who can actually =assist=. 8>.
-- GSV Three Minds in a Can Outgoing Msgs are Turing Tested,and indistinguishable from human typing.
"Dave Mclaughlin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Peewiglet said:
Conversation in Black's earlier today.
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Me: "....!?"
How do you pronounce that? ;-)
It's pronounced "WHAT THE [censored]?!"[1]
But Peewiglet is polite enough to spare our tender sensibilities.
You're welcome.
[1] Notice that I have corrected the incorrectly ordered interrobang that terminates the original. -- But these particular hypothetical weasel-[censored] are, as I specified, *contemptible* weasel-[censored]. I didn't say they were contemptible for being weasel-[censored]. The reason I think they are contemptible is none of their business, the despicable stoat-buggerers. -- Barbara W. in alt.religion.kibology
"Peewiglet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Conversation in Black's earlier today.
Me: "Hi, you used to have a leather Meindl boot." Assistant: "Yes." Me: "Do you still have it, please?" Assistant: "I don't think we've *ever* had a leather Meindl boot." Me: "You definitely have - I've had it on my foot."
At that moment, I notice the Meindl Burma sitting at the back of a shelf, and pick it up.
Me: "Oh, here it is." Assistant: "No, that's a fabric boot." Me: "Erm... no it isn't, it's leather."
I pass it to the assistant.
Assistant: "That's fabric - it's Nubuck." Me: "Nubuck is leather..." Assistant: "Oh.... well it isn't brown. Most people mean brown boots when they ask for leather." Me: "....!?"
Now you know how cyclists feel. All the time. -- "But, I really think that hate is the dominant factor here." - Marc Goodman in alt.religion.kibology
"Peewiglet" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht news:[email hidden]...
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Conversation in Black's earlier today.
Me: "Hi, you used to have a leather Meindl boot." Assistant: "Yes." Me: "Do you still have it, please?" Assistant: "I don't think we've *ever* had a leather Meindl boot." Me: "You definitely have - I've had it on my foot."
At that moment, I notice the Meindl Burma sitting at the back of a shelf, and pick it up.
Me: "Oh, here it is." Assistant: "No, that's a fabric boot." Me: "Erm... no it isn't, it's leather."
I pass it to the assistant.
Assistant: "That's fabric - it's Nubuck." Me: "Nubuck is leather..." Assistant: "Oh.... well it isn't brown. Most people mean brown boots when they ask for leather." Me: "....!?"
I wonder what his definition of a tent is...... ?
-- Theo www.theosphotos.fotopic.net [email hidden](we'll.leave.the.house.and.read.the.mail)
On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 21:57:09 +0100, GSV Three Minds in a Can <[email hidden]> wrote:
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Your perseverance in the face of Massive Ignorance amazes me. I'd have left somewhere after sentence #3 and looked for a shop with assistants who can actually =assist=. 8>.
It did really take my breath away! I left not long afterwards.
The problem is that getting to a decent shop involves a 3 hour round trip for me, so I keep going back to the local shop in the hope that I might find something interesting one day.
After the exchange described above I asked whether they had anyone trained to help fit boots carefully. The assistant told me she could measure my foot, if I thought that would help. At that stage I left... :-)
"Peter Clinch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Roy said:
I tend to find assistants in cycle shops know their stuff.
It depends on the cycle shop, just like other outdoor stores. If I buy a jacket in Braemar Mountain I expect I'll get a more clued in assistant than if I buy in Blacks. Similarly, if I buy a dynamo in Kinetics I expect more clueful information than Halfords.
Hmm, thinks. Are Halfords, Blacks and Currys all one chain?
I tend to find assistants in cycle shops know their stuff.
It depends on the cycle shop, just like other outdoor stores. If I buy a jacket in Braemar Mountain I expect I'll get a more clued in assistant than if I buy in Blacks. Similarly, if I buy a dynamo in Kinetics I expect more clueful information than Halfords.
Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
Hmm, thinks. Are Halfords, Blacks and Currys all one chain?
Possible... It should be noted that certainly Blacks and Halfords are not all created equal, and you can't just assume all their folk will be numpties. The manager of the Dundee Blacks strikes me as knowing as what he's talking about, and Halfords, especially the "Bike Huts" have some very good cycle mechanics in their employ. They /don't/ have a perfect record in that respect, though!
Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
Assistant: "That's fabric - it's Nubuck." Me: "Nubuck is leather..." Assistant: "Oh.... well it isn't brown. Most people mean brown boots when they ask for leather." Me: "....!?"
"__!!__"
Words fail. -- I try to be a good example to my children, but they just see me as a dire warning.
I recently had what I considered a good reason (God knows what!) to call at Blacks in Leicester. The guy wearing a name tag (so he didn't forget who he was I think) 'Rob' and 'Manager' said to me "I don't know much about this stuff," sweeping his arms to encompass the entire contents of 'his' shop. And I'd only asked him where his Silva Compasses where stored. There were a number of raised eyebrows in the shop - mine and most of his staff!. Needless to say I went elsewhere for my compass. Having experienced Dixons, Currys, and Halfords I reckon they are all part of the PC World empire which must be wholey owned by Blacks. Maybe I just expect too much of people whose salary I contrubute to. Happy trails John S-M
"Peter Clinch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Roy said:
Hmm, thinks. Are Halfords, Blacks and Currys all one chain?
Possible... It should be noted that certainly Blacks and Halfords are not all created equal, and you can't just assume all their folk will be numpties. The manager of the Dundee Blacks strikes me as knowing as what he's talking about, and Halfords, especially the "Bike Huts" have some very good cycle mechanics in their employ. They /don't/ have a perfect record in that respect, though!
Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
The guy wearing a name tag (so he didn't forget who he was I think) 'Rob' and 'Manager'
Were the words "Rob" and "Manager" written upside down so that he could read them?
If I do buy a down sleeping bag in the near future (as it is on my wish-list) I shall get it from a shop in Chester. I can't remember what the shop is called but I'm sure I'll remember if necessary. I went in there a few weeks ago and spent ages chatting with one of the blokes who works there. I didn't spend any money at all but he seemed to enjoy talking about the kit and seemed to have experience of using some of it. He made me think that he knew what he was talking about. I bet he leaves soon.
Bitstring <[email hidden]>, from the wonderful person Peewiglet <[email hidden]> said
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Conversation in Black's earlier today.
Me: "Hi, you used to have a leather Meindl boot." Assistant: "Yes." Me: "Do you still have it, please?" Assistant: "I don't think we've *ever* had a leather Meindl boot." Me: "You definitely have - I've had it on my foot."
At that moment, I notice the Meindl Burma sitting at the back of a shelf, and pick it up.
Me: "Oh, here it is." Assistant: "No, that's a fabric boot." Me: "Erm... no it isn't, it's leather."
I pass it to the assistant.
Assistant: "That's fabric - it's Nubuck." Me: "Nubuck is leather..." Assistant: "Oh.... well it isn't brown. Most people mean brown boots when they ask for leather." Me: "....!?"
Your perseverance in the face of Massive Ignorance amazes me. I'd have left somewhere after sentence #3 and looked for a shop with assistants who can actually =assist=.
I'd probably just have wet myself laughing first.
I recall a conversation in Lockwoods, after going home and fetching a pair of Meindl Mountain Crack boots which needed a little remedial action.
Me: Hi, I've brought my boots in for you. Aussie Assistant #1 waves to Assistant #2 Aussie Assistant #1 "John, this gentleman would like his cracks stretched......"
Entire shop looks askance at me while I make some comment about Aussies and their lack of tact, slang and their especially loud voices.
I tend to find assistants in cycle shops know their stuff.
It depends on the cycle shop, just like other outdoor stores. If I buy a jacket in Braemar Mountain I expect I'll get a more clued in assistant than if I buy in Blacks. Similarly, if I buy a dynamo in Kinetics I expect more clueful information than Halfords.
Your mistake is clear. Expecting anything useful from Hellfrauds.
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John Spencer-Mallory said:
The guy wearing a name tag (so he didn't forget who he was I think) 'Rob' and 'Manager'
Were the words "Rob" and "Manager" written upside down so that he could read them?
If I do buy a down sleeping bag in the near future (as it is on my wish-list) I shall get it from a shop in Chester. I can't remember what the shop is called but I'm sure I'll remember if necessary. I went in there a few weeks ago and spent ages chatting with one of the blokes who works there. I didn't spend any money at all but he seemed to enjoy talking about the kit and seemed to have experience of using some of it. He made me think that he knew what he was talking about. I bet he leaves soon.
That's what you want - a good local shop staffed by enthusiasts that are happy to spend the time discussing products, even if it means talking themselves out of a sale. I've been using escape2 in Warwick for a couple of years now and (excuse the plug for them) wouldn't go anywhere else. Especially as they will price match other shops :-)
