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Does pedal orientation affect sidehop height?

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  1. People who ride trials know that the most of the top riders sidehop
    towards their front foot. But is that really preferable? Lately I've
    been watching some bike trial vids and it seems like it is the
    opposite. I think this may have something to do with clearance.
    Generally trialists sidehop at a 45 degree angle and maybe if you hop
    towards the back foot side the cranks may not be in the way as much.

    This sort of contradicts what has been proven to work...I mean Ryan
    Atkins has a sidehop of what - 43 inches? Is there some fundamental
    difference between bike and unicycle trials that I'm missing? Or does
    your foot position even matter?

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  2. Missed the edit limit.

    For comparison purposes:

    Ryan Atkins
    17390

    James B.
    17392

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  3. Do you know how high that bike is hopping?

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  4. If I remember correctly around 45 inches.

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  5. It's all personal preference.

    I hop to the left with my left foot forward, but I've seen videos where
    the rider has their right foot forward and they hop to the left, or
    left foot forward and they hop to the right, or back foot upward and
    hop to the pi...

    It's really all just what feels best for you. You should already know
    which is best for you and what feels natural.

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  6. excaliber906 said:

    People who ride trials know that the most of the top riders sidehop
    towards their front foot. *1)*But is that really preferable? Lately
    I've been watching some bike trial vids and it seems like it is the
    opposite. I think this may have something to do with clearance.
    *2)*Generally trialists sidehop at a 45 degree angle and maybe if you
    hop towards the back foot side the cranks may not be in the way as
    much.

    *3)*This sort of contradicts what has been proven to work...*4)*I mean
    Ryan Atkins has a sidehop of what - 43 inches? *5)*Is there some
    fundamental difference between bike and unicycle trials that I'm
    missing? *6)*Or does your foot position even matter?

    talking about SIF
    1)yes, it means the Kickup from a pedal grab is on the front foot,
    which I have always seen to be smoother. 2) for the big ups you are
    starting from as much as 2-3 feet away (with a prebounce) and you
    usually tilt the tire in(towards the landing zone) so I think it
    doesn't affect it. 3)it contradicts what has been proven to work in
    bike trials, not unicycle trials 4)he does 5)the fact trials bikes
    have 2 wheels while a Uni has only 1, so the style is completely
    different. 6) I think what matters most is not what foot is foward,
    but that you use opposite hand and foot and jump toward you foward
    foot. if you are right foot foward and left hand, you pinch the seat
    between you hand and leg where as if you use your right hand it isn't
    pinched between them.

    I think what foot is foward, what hand you use, and what side you jump
    to affect your hight, but not an extreme amount.

    their are really good riders who do do same hand/foot, or jump
    backpedal, but the top riders jump towards their foward foot and are
    opposite hand/foot

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  7. I go right foot forward, hop to the right. I can go left, but right has
    an edge.

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  8. It's all personal prefernce, just like right handed versus left handed
    we have a natural side we hop to.

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  9. I'm right foot forward and hop left, with my left hand on the seat...

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  10. I hop to the left with my right foot forward, but if im on my trials
    bike then i hop to the left with my right forward i cant do it any
    other way.

    Joe

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  11. Bike trials riders can hop way higher than unicyclists for many reasons.
    This isn't one of them.

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  12. Catboy said:

    I'm pretty positive that hopping towards your back foot works better,
    I've watched a lot of pro riders use the same methods.

    For bikes or unicycles?

    Because with unis, most people hop towards their forward foot, because
    most people want to pedal/crank grab with the forward foot, since it's
    a lot easier.

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  13. I hop towards my back foot...So left. Yup that works for me.

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  14. mawesome said all there needs to be said in this thread. end of issue.
    it's personal preference... however you learn the skill is how you'll
    do it best... obviously if you go against your personal preference you
    won't be able to hop as well.

    physics doesn't care what foot goes forward or back. either way you do
    it, you're still using the tire's compression to get your hop height.

    TrialsUni said:

    with unis, most people hop towards their forward foot, because most
    people want to pedal/crank grab with the forward foot, since it's a lot
    easier.

    really? then why do I find it easier to grab with my rear foot? oh,
    it must be because you're full of [censored]. 😉

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