Does One Need To "Burn" Fat

Any form of cardio that appeals to you enough to get you to stay with
it 6 days a week, 20 minutes continuously at a minumum-running's one of
the best, elliptical, stairmachine, etc.

You could lose by calorie reduction exclusively, but you won't see the
same firmness in the muscles, nor the health benefits accrued to the
heart and body through exercise.

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... by doing at least some cardio or can it be done with calorie
reduction alone? Maybe a better question to ask is what is the absolute
best way to burn fat while maintaining as much hard... and I mean
HARD... earned muscle as possible? I know, I know, this must be the very
first time this has been discussed here.

You need to do cardio to mobilize that stubborn fat.

Hugh

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... by doing at least some cardio or can it be done with calorie
reduction alone? Maybe a better question to ask is what is the absolute
best way to burn fat while maintaining as much hard... and I mean
HARD... earned muscle as possible? I know, I know, this must be the very
first time this has been discussed here.

You need to do cardio to mobilize that stubborn fat.

Mobilize it?

Yes, how does one mobilize fat. I was under the impression that whether you
ran 3 miles in 15 minutes, or you took a leisurely 3 mile stroll in an hour,
it still burns around the same number of calories.
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... by doing at least some cardio or can it be done with calorie
reduction alone? Maybe a better question to ask is what is the absolute
best way to burn fat while maintaining as much hard... and I mean
HARD... earned muscle as possible? I know, I know, this must be the very
first time this has been discussed here.

You need to do cardio to mobilize that stubborn fat.

Hugh

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... by doing at least some cardio or can it be done with calorie
reduction alone? Maybe a better question to ask is what is the absolute
best way to burn fat while maintaining as much hard... and I mean
HARD... earned muscle as possible? I know, I know, this must be the very
first time this has been discussed here.

You need to do cardio to mobilize that stubborn fat.

Mobilize it?

No idea what mobilizing fat means (unless it refers to taking your
fat for a jog). But calorie reduction alone will get rid of fat, but it
will also reduce your muscle (which you can slow but not stop
by lifting while you diet). For most people (ie not into a specific
sport or body building), the best approach is a combination of
all three...lifting, cardio and intelligent dieting. If you absolutely
don't want to lose muscle while you lose fat, you're going to have
to go for a slow reduction, where your calorie deficit is just
under maintenance, so your body doesn't canabalize your
muscles.

-JS2

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> ... by doing at least some cardio or can it be done with calorie
> reduction alone? Maybe a better question to ask is what is the
> absolute best way to burn fat while maintaining as much hard... and I
> mean HARD... earned muscle as possible? I know, I know, this must be
> the very first time this has been discussed here.
>
>

You need to do cardio to mobilize that stubborn fat.

Mobilize it?

No idea what mobilizing fat means (unless it refers to taking your
fat for a jog). But calorie reduction alone will get rid of fat, but it
will also reduce your muscle (which you can slow but not stop
by lifting while you diet). For most people (ie not into a specific
sport or body building), the best approach is a combination of
all three...lifting, cardio and intelligent dieting. If you absolutely
don't want to lose muscle while you lose fat, you're going to have
to go for a slow reduction, where your calorie deficit is just
under maintenance, so your body doesn't canabalize your
muscles.

-JS2

Mobilize? Metabolize? Whatever.

Turns out that there actually is a difference between restricting calories
and adding cardio--Bryan Haycock and Lyle McDonald have both written about
it. Cardio while dieting seems to trigger a hormone response that helps
fat cells give up their fat, and it also increases circulation to cells
that have poor circulation.

Hugh

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I think anaerobic exercise and less calories will still tone, but it
will happen more quickly by adding cardio plus the cardio gives you the
heart benefits.

Adding cardio will accelerate fat-burning and toning, plus anaerobic by
itself won't help the heart. Could still lose and firm by calorie
reduction and weights.

I prefer the Cardio Kid. Can't help it if i know what i'm talking
about, might as well help someone else.

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>> ... by doing at least some cardio or can it be done with calorie
>> reduction alone? Maybe a better question to ask is what is the
>> absolute best way to burn fat while maintaining as much hard... and I
>> mean HARD... earned muscle as possible? I know, I know, this must be
>> the very first time this has been discussed here.
>>
>>
>
> You need to do cardio to mobilize that stubborn fat.

Mobilize it?

No idea what mobilizing fat means (unless it refers to taking your
fat for a jog). But calorie reduction alone will get rid of fat, but it
will also reduce your muscle (which you can slow but not stop
by lifting while you diet). For most people (ie not into a specific
sport or body building), the best approach is a combination of
all three...lifting, cardio and intelligent dieting. If you absolutely
don't want to lose muscle while you lose fat, you're going to have
to go for a slow reduction, where your calorie deficit is just
under maintenance, so your body doesn't canabalize your
muscles.

-JS2

Mobilize? Metabolize? Whatever.

Turns out that there actually is a difference between restricting calories
and adding cardio--Bryan Haycock and Lyle McDonald have both written about
it. Cardio while dieting seems to trigger a hormone response that helps
fat cells give up their fat, and it also increases circulation to cells
that have poor circulation.

Interesting, I'll have to look that up; guess I always assumed they
were more or less equivalent as far as calory count goes (though
of course cardio has some pretty important side benefits). Makes
sense though that nothing in a biological system is that simple
(bad engineer, bad).

-JS2

It does, but the level of intensity correlates to efficiency of
fat-burn, plus the nature and intensity differences in walking and
running affect different muscles.

Adding cardio accelerates fat-burning and toning and improves the
metabolism. Anaerobic can still tone if coupled with calorie reduction,
but won't help the heart.

Walking or running will cause the same calorie loss, but at different
rates, plus the different nature of the movement and intensity affects
which muscles are used.

Adding cardio accelerates fat-burning and toning and improves the
metabolism. Anaerobic will still tone, coupled with calorie reduction,
but won't create as high a level of overall fitness or help the heart
as aerobic exercise will.

Precisely.

Anaerobic exercise is exercise
intense enough to cause you to exceed your anaerobic threshold.

Fascinating statement..

Anaerobic exercise is exercise
intense enough to cause you to exceed your anaerobic threshold.

Priceless.

I believe so, but i don't know for sure. If so and glycogen's the
energy, it's the body's buffer before consuming fat stores. There'd
have to be another level of intensity and/or duration beyond glycogen
use to get into fat burning.

I believe so, glycogen's the buffer before consuming fat stores. Fat
burning would occur after gycogen use; not as effective as cardio for
fat burning.

The term "anaerobic" means "without air" or "without oxygen." Anaerobic
exercise uses muscles at high intensity and a high rate of work for a
short period of time. Anaerobic exercise helps us increase our muscle
strength and stay ready for quick bursts of speed. Think of short and
fast when you think of anaerobic exercise.

Examples of anaerobic exercise include heavy weight lifting, sprinting,
or any rapid burst of hard exercise. These anaerobic exercises cannot
last long because oxygen is not used for energy and a by-product,
called lactic acid, is produced.

Lactic Acid contributes to muscle fatigue and must be burned up by the
body during a recovery period before another anaerobic bout of exercise
can be attempted. The recovery period also allows the muscles to use
oxygen to replenish the energy used during the high intensity exercise.
Although anaerobic exercise does not burn fat, its muscle-building
results complement aerobic exercise (and bigger muscles burn bigger
calories).

Aerobic exercise burns fat. Aerobic exercise involves increased
breathing and elevated heart rate over an extended period of time.
After about 20 minutes of aerobic exercise, the body needs to use its
stored fat reserves as fuel.

Old school, new school, they're all interesting-and inconclusive. Best
to glean from all of many sources.

HIT apparently causes more fat burn because more calories are used, and
i do think that it can affect hypertrophy, if for no other reason that
it can reduce nervous energy. Precisely why standard aerobic activity
as i've described, sans HIT, works for me with a splash of HIT.

Old school, new school, they're all interesting-and simply more fodder
from which to draw conclusions.

Clearly standard aerobic exercise as i've mentioned is optimal for fat
loss, not the anaerobic AT levels you keep talking 'about! Who's
suggesting HIT or anaerobic levels other than you?

HIT apparently causes more fat burn because more calories are used, and
i do think that it can affect hypertrophy, if for no other reason than
the negative effects on the CNS. Precisely why standard aerobic
activity
as i've described, with a splash of HIT, works for me.