Does every WA & OR 'bent have a fairing?

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Looking at the pix of various group rides, I get the impression that
every recumbent bike in those states is faired, and many are also
body-socked. Is it because of the rain, or are there fierce winds?
OT, what do upright cyclists do, use partial fairings? or just

suffer?

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C.C., need to know

Ride STP some time. I've done it the last two years and with the
exception of Easy Racers riders who generally have a front fairing and
are often body-socked, the majority of the riders I saw were riding
unfaired. When I lived in WA in the early 1990's I only had a front
fairing and body sock for a couple months before I returned them due to
numerous design problems with that particular fairing package.

Zach

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Looking at the pix of various group rides, I get the impression that
every recumbent bike in those states is faired, and many are also
body-socked. Is it because of the rain, or are there fierce winds?
OT, what do upright cyclists do, use partial fairings? or just

suffer?

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C.C., need to know

Hmmm... I don't know *every* recumbent rider in Washington and Oregon,
but it sure seems that way at times. :-) There's a better
representation at the Recumbent Retreat website:
http://www.recumbentretreat.org/

I think the popularity of Easy Racer products with Zzipper fairings has
a lot to do with their widespread appearance. Combine that with the
ease of making body socks, and they do appear to take over.

The wind can be fierce at times. Here in the Portland area, the mouth
of the Columbia Gorge tends to concentrate the flow through the
Cascades. Consistent winds of 15 to 25 mph are not uncommon. Also, the
floor of the Willamette Valley is pretty flat, so climbing prowess is
not neccessarily an advantage. Take a look at the elevation profiles of
this year's Cycle Oregon and you'll see what I mean:
http://www.cycleoregon.com/week/route.htm

Yes, upright riders suffer.

Jeff

I am in Portland Oregon and I don't have anything extra. though I saw a fellow
with a body sock for the fist time. sorry but I don't want to look like that (G)

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Steve Knight said:

I am in Portland Oregon and I don't have anything extra. though I saw

a fellow

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with a body sock for the fist time. sorry but I don't want to look

like that (G)

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Yeah, well... the first time you get passed by a grey-haired guy on a
socked Tour Easy who's going 5 mph faster than you, you'll say "I gotta
get me one of them!"

:-O

Jeff

P.S. going to join us for the Rites of Spring?
http://www.ohpv.org/ride_details/rites2005.htm

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Steve Knight said:

I am in Portland Oregon and I don't have anything extra. though I saw

a fellow

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with a body sock for the fist time. sorry but I don't want to look

like that (G)

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Yeah, well... the first time you get passed by a grey-haired guy on a
socked Tour Easy who's going 5 mph faster than you, you'll say "I gotta
get me one of them!"

:-O

Jeff

That or a low racer Optima Baron

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[...] I saw a fellow with a body sock for the fist time.
sorry but I don't want to look like that (G)

Same sentiment of many regarding bicycle racers and of
some conventional cyclists regarding any recumbent rider...
Maybe they/we don't know what we're missing along the
Pollen Path.

Jon Meinecke
net.subtle-apteryx

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the future of the human race."
- H.G. Wells

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Yeah, well... the first time you get passed by a grey-haired guy on a
socked Tour Easy who's going 5 mph faster than you, you'll say "I gotta
get me one of them!"

I have been so sick for the last three years I got passed by girls on single
speed boon tire bikes. well I am filling far better this week and got passed far
less.
but I mostly commute so it would be pointless. if I want to go fast I need to
invest in a racer (G)

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What!!! Does The Kochanowski live near Seattle or Portland? Exactly
where? When I visit the area I'd love to Worship at the Shrine. Maybe
visit the back alley with the trashcans. I'm going to the gym right
now to practice my dead lifts. I'm serious.

C.C.

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What!!! Does The Kochanowski live near Seattle or Portland? Exactly
where? When I visit the area I'd love to Worship at the Shrine.

Maybe

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visit the back alley with the trashcans. I'm going to the gym right
now to practice my dead lifts. I'm serious.

C.C.

Joe's a Seattlite. Interpret that as you wish.

Be careful, Carol- you'll end up driving the full length of the West
Coast. Southern Oregon may be 6 hours from Oakland, but Portland's 4
hours past that, and Seattle's another 3 hours beyond that if you don't
get stuck in traffic.

Jeff

Steve
For a taste of why people use body socks try making it to the HPV races at Portland
Raceway memorial weekend
www.ohpv.org
Speedy

Steve Knight said:

I am in Portland Oregon and I don't have anything extra. though I saw a fellow
with a body sock for the fist time. sorry but I don't want to look like that (G)

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S. Delaire 'Rotatorrecumbent said:

Steve
For a taste of why people use body socks try making it to the HPV

races at Portland

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Raceway memorial weekend
www.ohpv.org
Speedy

And we get Joe, too: http://www.ohpv.org/pir2003/joekoch/index.htm

Jeff

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And we get Joe, too: http://www.ohpv.org/pir2003/joekoch/index.htm

I would like to see him ride that in traffic (G)

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Joe can do it
A bit of an eccentric (meant as a compliment)
With great bike handling skills
And good power
Take the time to get to know him
Come to the races Memorial weekend
Speedy

Steve Knight said:

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And we get Joe, too: http://www.ohpv.org/pir2003/joekoch/index.htm

I would like to see him ride that in traffic (G)

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S. Delaire \'Rotatorrecumbent\ said:

Joe can do it
A bit of an eccentric (meant as a compliment)
With great bike handling skills
And good power
Take the time to get to know him
Come to the races Memorial weekend

it would be kind of cool to see it.
I may go on one of the rides here soon.
not sure if I am up to it. been sick for years and at last I am finally
recovering. but I have not done more then my 20 or so miles a day yet.

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it would be kind of cool to see it.
I may go on one of the rides here soon.
not sure if I am up to it. been sick for years and at last I am

finally

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recovering. but I have not done more then my 20 or so miles a day

yet.

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Steve- come out to PIR and spectate. It's fun for everyone, and you'll
come to realize that there's lots of wackos like you around. Me in
particular.
8-)

Jeff

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Steve- come out to PIR and spectate. It's fun for everyone, and you'll
come to realize that there's lots of wackos like you around. Me in
particular.
8-)

(G) I just may. looking at the ride the 19th. not sure if I am up to it since I
have to ride to get there. makes is about 45 miles. My wacky body I don't know
if I have enough energy for a long ride.

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Idaho, too, but mostly those of us with ERs. That's probably because
the whole fairing/skin setup is so easily purchased and installed. Just
my opinion, but I think the fairing should be everyone's first major
upgrade.

There are two or three uprights in Boise with bubble fairings but the
peer pressure for those poor [censored] is to buy those (dangerously
inappropriate) aerobars instead of a fairing.

On m recumbent, I'm bucking the commonly accepted trends in bicycling
hardware and fashions by definition. Anything I can do to draw
attention to or add comfort to my riding experience is okay with me.

david boise ID

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Looking at the pix of various group rides, I get the impression that
every recumbent bike in those states is faired, and many are also
body-socked. Is it because of the rain, or are there fierce winds?
OT, what do upright cyclists do, use partial fairings? or just

suffer?

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C.C., need to know

We'll be driving up (with 2 borrowed EZ-1's) around Memorial Day
weekend. If we can schedule the long drive, I'd love to see the races.
Depends on the weather and the pull of all the other terrific sights
in western Oregon.

Is it true (according to Chuck Palahniuk's Portland guidebook) that the
upright cyclist racers take their victory laps nude (plus helmets &
shoes)? Do the recumbent cyclists do the same? And would it matter,
since they all have body socks & full fairings?

C.C.

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We'll be driving up (with 2 borrowed EZ-1's) around Memorial Day
weekend. If we can schedule the long drive, I'd love to see the

races.

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Depends on the weather and the pull of all the other terrific sights
in western Oregon.

Is it true (according to Chuck Palahniuk's Portland guidebook) that

the

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upright cyclist racers take their victory laps nude (plus helmets &
shoes)? Do the recumbent cyclists do the same? And would it matter,
since they all have body socks & full fairings?

C.C.

Not really. The "Naked Lap" is an end-of-season tradition for the
Monday/Tuesday upright racers. I've never seen in happen at the
recumbent races, but then I'm not at the track every minute.

Jeff