Do you speak to RLJ's?

spindrift said:

Chased a numpty this morning who'd made a commuter pull back sharply as
he zoomed past a red light. Caught him eventually, despite his jumping
every frigging light from the Bof E to SE1.

"You nearly hit that lady!"

I said.

"Oh dear" he said, and pedalled off.

Not sure I achieved anything.

not sure about RLJ's but I wanted to throw some abuse at the dosy cow
in a 4X4 who slammed on here brakes *THREE* times in front of me the
other day. She drove past me at 60mph so presumably she knew I was
there... scary. I came passed her when she was pulling away the 3rd
time and she actually saw me then ! not a hint of an acknowledgment or
apology though. Amazing..

Simon

spindrift said:

Chased a numpty this morning who'd made a commuter pull back sharply as
he zoomed past a red light. Caught him eventually, despite his jumping
every frigging light from the Bof E to SE1.

"You nearly hit that lady!"

I said.

"Oh dear" he said, and pedalled off.

Not sure I achieved anything.

A while I ago I pointed out to one approaching Westmister Bridge that it was illeagal to do that, and the respone was 'I only chose to obey the laws that I like'

He then went into the DIT building on Victoria Street. Oh well

Bryan

spindrift said:

Chased a numpty this morning who'd made a commuter pull back sharply as
he zoomed past a red light. Caught him eventually, despite his jumping
every frigging light from the Bof E to SE1.

If I overhaul them I generally point out that their action reflects
badly on *me* and any other cyclists and that /really/ pisses me off.
Doubt it changes much behaviour, but there's a very small chance that
one of the duty neurons might fire.

Pete.
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Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
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Bryan said:

spindrift said:

Chased a numpty this morning who'd made a commuter pull back sharply as
he zoomed past a red light. Caught him eventually, despite his jumping
every frigging light from the Bof E to SE1.

"You nearly hit that lady!"

I said.

"Oh dear" he said, and pedalled off.

Not sure I achieved anything.

A while I ago I pointed out to one approaching Westmister Bridge that
it was illeagal to do that, and the respone was 'I only chose to obey
the laws that I like'

He then went into the DIT building on Victoria Street. Oh well

Bryan

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Bryan

It was pretty aggressive, the light had been red for three of four
seconds and the lady was just stepping off the pavement- he must have
seen her.

When I spoke with him he had a colonial accent, Kiwi or something, but
he wasn't abashed at all. Very silly lad.

Upon the miasma of midnight, a darkling spirit identified as spindrift
<[email hidden]> gently breathed:

Quoted message said:

Chased a numpty this morning who'd made a commuter pull back sharply as
he zoomed past a red light. Caught him eventually, despite his jumping
every frigging light from the Bof E to SE1.

Quoted message said:

"You nearly hit that lady!"
I said.
"Oh dear" he said, and pedalled off.
Not sure I achieved anything.

I yelled at one who nearly hit me (I was cycling through a junction on
green) "Red lights mean stop you know", and jut got a stream of abuse
back. Would do it again though.

But then I also yell at people who drive while holding mobiles clamped
to their ears if their windows are open. I always hope the person at
the other end is their boss/spouse and they hear me.

Serial RLJs should have their vehicles confiscated. Phone drivers
should lose their cars and also loose their phones and be made to pay a
GBP1000 fee to be allowed to have another mobile. That'd soon put a
stop to it.

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Quoted message said:

Chased a numpty this morning who'd made a commuter pull back sharply as
he zoomed past a red light. Caught him eventually, despite his jumping
every frigging light from the Bof E to SE1.

"You nearly hit that lady!"

I said.

"Oh dear" he said, and pedalled off.

Not sure I achieved anything.

I think trying be be a self styled policeman achieves very little, and could
easily backfire if you pick on the wrong person to complain to.

Re: Do you speak to RLJ's?

Had to this morning - I was riding with one. Fortunately the other chap
riding with us didn't either, so the Jumper ended up waiting the other side
of the lights.

Pyromancer said:

Upon the miasma of midnight, a darkling spirit identified as spindrift
<[email hidden]> gently breathed:

Quoted message said:

Chased a numpty this morning who'd made a commuter pull back sharply as
he zoomed past a red light. Caught him eventually, despite his jumping
every frigging light from the Bof E to SE1.

Quoted message said:

"You nearly hit that lady!"
I said.
"Oh dear" he said, and pedalled off.
Not sure I achieved anything.

I yelled at one who nearly hit me (I was cycling through a junction on
green) "Red lights mean stop you know", and jut got a stream of abuse
back. Would do it again though.

If I'm stopped at a light and somebody sails past I yell as loud as I
can "THAT WAS RED" I don't care if they swear back, 99 percent of the
time they do, but as they sail on their merry way it brings to
attention the fact that I have stopped at the red and shows people
we're not all like that.

I once admonished more quietly face to face a couple of riders joining
our club jun who ran through a red light before they pulled up at the
cafe where we meet. they didn't seem to realise what they were doing
reflected badly on us as a club and cyclists in general.

Quoted message said:

But then I also yell at people who drive while holding mobiles clamped
to their ears if their windows are open. I always hope the person at
the other end is their boss/spouse and they hear me.

I usually shout some very choice anglo saxon ending with phone down.
It's the only way to get some people's attention.
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

Pyromancer said:

I yelled at one who nearly hit me (I was cycling through a junction on
green) "Red lights mean stop you know", and jut got a stream of abuse
back. Would do it again though.

I usually say something and shout more abuse and chase them (after the
lights go green) if they say anything negative back. Hopefully their
brain will associate RLJ'ing with negative consequences (abuse and
being chased, especially by another cyclist).

Quoted message said:

But then I also yell at people who drive while holding mobiles clamped
to their ears if their windows are open. I always hope the person at
the other end is their boss/spouse and they hear me.

"Put your phone down, you're going to kill someone" is my usual line.

It reminds me of one of my favourite games on my 65 mile commute into
work on the motorbike. I'd frequently pull up next to someone at
traffic lights and it was always fun if they were on the phone.

First off was a tap on the window and some "put your phone down" hand
gestures with added finger waving.

If there was no response (usually it was a one or two fingered
response) I'd up the revs on the bike.

3000rpm is annoying if their window is open. They would close it and
carry on talking.

6000rpm is annoying if their window is closed. They would start
shouting.

At 9000rpm they can't even shout over the noise, this usually ends the
call.

I had plenty spare, the red line was at 13500rpm.

I always wore earplugs.

-Alex

Alex wrote on 03/10/2006 13:57 +0100:

Quoted message said:

If there was no response (usually it was a one or two fingered
response) I'd up the revs on the bike.

3000rpm is annoying if their window is open. They would close it and
carry on talking.

6000rpm is annoying if their window is closed. They would start
shouting.

At 9000rpm they can't even shout over the noise, this usually ends the
call.

I had plenty spare, the red line was at 13500rpm.

Wow, the best I can do on a bicycle is about 130rpm these days ;-)

--
Tony

"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
- Leonardo da Vinci

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Pyromancer said:

Upon the miasma of midnight, a darkling spirit identified as spindrift
<[email hidden]> gently breathed:

Quoted message said:

Chased a numpty this morning who'd made a commuter pull back sharply as
he zoomed past a red light. Caught him eventually, despite his jumping
every frigging light from the Bof E to SE1.

Quoted message said:

"You nearly hit that lady!"
I said.
"Oh dear" he said, and pedalled off.
Not sure I achieved anything.

I yelled at one who nearly hit me (I was cycling through a junction on
green) "Red lights mean stop you know", and jut got a stream of abuse
back. Would do it again though.

But then I also yell at people who drive while holding mobiles clamped
to their ears if their windows are open. I always hope the person at
the other end is their boss/spouse and they hear me.

Serial RLJs should have their vehicles confiscated. Phone drivers
should lose their cars and also loose their phones and be made to pay a
GBP1000 fee to be allowed to have another mobile. That'd soon put a
stop to it.

I've a better idea - clamp them for a few days: something that fits
around the ankle, stops them from cycling or driving and makes them look
like a dork when they walk.

In article <[email hidden]>

spindrift said:

Chased a numpty this morning who'd made a commuter pull back sharply as
he zoomed past a red light. Caught him eventually, despite his jumping
every frigging light from the Bof E to SE1.

"You nearly hit that lady!"

I said.

"Oh dear" he said, and pedalled off.

Not sure I achieved anything.

I sometimes play chicken with them or cut them up if the opportunity
presents itself, but often it's just as satisfying to burn them off
while riding 'textbook' to demonstrate that their silly behaviour
doesn't really benefit them. As you, I'm not sure if it achieves
anything (other than a smidge of personal satisfaction) but it /may/ set
a thought rattling around inside their heads.

Rob Morley said:

I've a better idea - clamp them for a few days: something that fits
around the ankle, stops them from cycling or driving and makes them look
like a dork when they walk.

A pair of shackles would work, with an added steel ball for good
measure.

David Lloyd

Hi,

mr p said:

not sure about RLJ's but I wanted to throw some abuse at the dosy cow
in a 4X4 who slammed on here brakes *THREE* times in front of me the
other day. She drove past me at 60mph so presumably she knew I was
there... scary. ...

I wouldn't count on it- having passed you (a slow-moving obstacle) you
were probably forgotton instantly- You would fall into the same
category as a bollard, not be recognised as another vehicle that might
reappear further down the road.

Quoted message said:

... I came passed her when she was pulling away the 3rd
time and she actually saw me then ! not a hint of an acknowledgment or
apology though. Amazing..

Again- even assuming she recognised you as the same obstacle as
before- you probably didn't register in her conscience until you
overtook- It's quite likely that you didn't exist between her initial
overtake and your subsequent one.

Cheers,
W.

Rob Morley said:

I sometimes play chicken with them or cut them up if the opportunity
presents itself, but often it's just as satisfying to burn them off
while riding 'textbook' to demonstrate that their silly behaviour
doesn't really benefit them. As you, I'm not sure if it achieves
anything (other than a smidge of personal satisfaction) but it /may/ set
a thought rattling around inside their heads.

They would probably think, 'I've gone through all those red lights and
yet I get caught by this guy. I must find some more red lights to ride
through.'

David Lloyd

Rob Morley said:

I sometimes play chicken with them or cut them up if the opportunity
presents itself, but often it's just as satisfying to burn them off
while riding 'textbook' to demonstrate that their silly behaviour
doesn't really benefit them. As you, I'm not sure if it achieves
anything (other than a smidge of personal satisfaction) but it /may/ set
a thought rattling around inside their heads.

They would probably think, 'I've gone through all those red lights and
yet I get caught by this guy. I must find some more red lights to ride
through.'

David Lloyd

Rob Morley said:

I sometimes play chicken with them or cut them up if the opportunity
presents itself, but often it's just as satisfying to burn them off
while riding 'textbook' to demonstrate that their silly behaviour
doesn't really benefit them. As you, I'm not sure if it achieves
anything (other than a smidge of personal satisfaction) but it /may/ set
a thought rattling around inside their heads.

Nice, so someone commits a wee crime and you respond with an act of
violence. Is this how you drive too?

Of course there's a benefit to skipping red lights, it is possible to
make any journey 'slightly' quicker with less effort (no stopping and
starting). As you mentioned you had to increase your effort to 'burn
them off'.

Laters,

Marz

Rob Morley said:

Quoted message said:

I sometimes play chicken with them or cut them up if the opportunity
presents itself, but often it's just as satisfying to burn them off
while riding 'textbook' to demonstrate that their silly behaviour
doesn't really benefit them. As you, I'm not sure if it achieves
anything (other than a smidge of personal satisfaction) but it /may/ set
a thought rattling around inside their heads.

and Marz responded:

Quoted message said:

Nice, so someone commits a wee crime and you respond with an act of
violence. Is this how you drive too?

I'm sorry Marz, I've read and re-read what you quoted, but I can't see
any mention of violence. Could you clarify, please?

--
Danny Colyer <URL:http://www.colyer.plus.com/danny/>
Bristol to Bath by unicycle: <http://www.bristoltobathonaunicycle.co.uk>
"He who dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine

Marz said:

Rob Morley said:

I sometimes play chicken with them or cut them up if the opportunity
presents itself, but often it's just as satisfying to burn them off
while riding 'textbook' to demonstrate that their silly behaviour
doesn't really benefit them. As you, I'm not sure if it achieves
anything (other than a smidge of personal satisfaction) but it /may/ set
a thought rattling around inside their heads.

Nice, so someone commits a wee crime and you respond with an act of
violence. Is this how you drive too?

As fast as possible while complying with all law? Yes, pretty much.
What is wrong with that?

What violence?

regards, Ian SMith
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