Do you get 'hot' spots when riding - foot, shoulder, hands?

On Sat, 01 May 2004 17:52:46 -0400, Badger_South <[email hidden]>

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So I've been get one in the right arch, only, and my gut
reaction is the right foot is 'too tense', or 'dominating',
so I switch to emphasizing the left foot. (on left foot, I
think 'mash; mash', heh.)

My right foot gets pained (not hot, though) in and near the
toes; I know it's from that foot being tense. My toes tense
up to curl down, and I have to make a very difficult
conscious effort to overcome it.

If I ignore it, it goes away after awhile. I think it's
a feedback loop -- like if I think about it more, it
gets worse.

Quoted message said:

Usually I shake my foot and reposition on the pedal but
that doesn't seem to have a lasting effect. Happens
typically only after the 10 mile mark.

Maybe forgetting about it will make it go away.

Quoted message said:

Thoughts?

It could be a shoe fit issue. Laced/strapped too tight or
too loose, or wrong size, or wrong shape.
--
Rick Onanian

Badger_South wrote:
:: Sometimes my right foot gets a 'hot' spot in the arch.
:: I've hear ppl talk about their 'hot spots' forming
:: usually during long endurance races, but never really
:: define what it is that I recall. Tendon rubbing,
:: repetitive stress, too much pressure, blood flow limited
:: by muscle spasm?
::
:: Obviously you can have a 'hot spot' on the bottom of the
:: foot sometimes signalling a blister is about to form, but
:: this feels different.
::
:: My sense is that I don't want to push through it, but if
:: most ppl do I'd be willing to try.
::
:: So I've been get one in the right arch, only, and my gut
:: reaction is the right foot is 'too tense', or
:: 'dominating', so I switch to emphasizing the left foot.
:: (on left foot, I think 'mash; mash', heh.)
::
:: Usually I shake my foot and reposition on the pedal but
:: that doesn't seem to have a lasting effect. Happens
:: typically only after the 10 mile mark.
::
:: Thoughts?

Well, on the 17th of April I started riding seriously again
(I'm in SC) and I'm training for my first century (I started
cycling last September at age 45 after not riding since age
12). I've noticed something in my right foot. I can't quite
pin what causes it, but I think it is happens after I stop
(like at a light) and lean over on one foot (the right) to
support myself. When I begin riding again, I feel some
"weirdness" in that foot that bothers me for a while. I
think it happens well into my rides, which are on the order
of 25 to 35 miles a piece so far. After a while it seems to
go away and I don't think about it after the ride is over.

On Sat, 1 May 2004 18:17:19 -0400, "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Badger_South wrote:
:: Sometimes my right foot gets a 'hot' spot in the arch.
:: I've hear ppl talk about their 'hot spots' forming
:: usually during long endurance races, but never really
:: define what it is that I recall. Tendon rubbing,
:: repetitive stress, too much pressure, blood flow limited
:: by muscle spasm?
::
:: Obviously you can have a 'hot spot' on the bottom of the
:: foot sometimes signalling a blister is about to form,
:: but this feels different.
::
:: My sense is that I don't want to push through it, but if
:: most ppl do I'd be willing to try.
::
:: So I've been get one in the right arch, only, and my gut
:: reaction is the right foot is 'too tense', or
:: 'dominating', so I switch to emphasizing the left foot.
:: (on left foot, I think 'mash; mash', heh.)
::
:: Usually I shake my foot and reposition on the pedal but
:: that doesn't seem to have a lasting effect. Happens
:: typically only after the 10 mile mark.
::
:: Thoughts?

Well, on the 17th of April I started riding seriously again
(I'm in SC) and I'm training for my first century (I
started cycling last September at age 45 after not riding
since age 12). I've noticed something in my right foot. I
can't quite pin what causes it, but I think it is happens
after I stop (like at a light) and lean over on one foot
(the right) to support myself. When I begin riding again, I
feel some "weirdness" in that foot that bothers me for a
while. I think it happens well into my rides, which are on
the order of 25 to 35 miles a piece so far. After a while
it seems to go away and I don't think about it after the
ride is over.

Yeah, mine goes away immediately and never think about it
after the ride.

Gut reaction is I'm overtensing that foot.

Heh, it's sometimes difficult to push yourself, and
continuously remember to 'relax'.

Thx for the input. Good mileage, already btw! ;-)

-B

Rick Onanian said:

If I ignore it, it goes away after awhile. I think it's
a feedback loop -- like if I think about it more, it
gets worse.

Quoted message said:

Usually I shake my foot and reposition on the pedal but
that doesn't seem to have a lasting effect. Happens
typically only after the 10 mile mark.

Maybe forgetting about it will make it go away.

I'm trying to up my mileage. Might need to 'sneak up on it'
more. heh-heh.

Thx.

-B

I used to get hot spots on the bottom of the foot as well. I
invested in a good pair of shoes (Sidi) and haven;t had any
problems since. At first I balked at dropping about USD$200,
but I had no regrets and ended up buying another pair for my
other bike (which has different pedals/cleats).

Jim

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Quoted message said:

Roger Zoul said:

Badger_South wrote:
:: Sometimes my right foot gets a 'hot' spot in the arch.
:: I've hear ppl talk about their 'hot spots' forming
:: usually during long endurance races, but never really
:: define what it is that I recall. Tendon rubbing,
:: repetitive stress, too much pressure, blood flow
:: limited by muscle spasm?
::
:: Obviously you can have a 'hot spot' on the bottom of
:: the foot sometimes signalling a blister is about to
:: form, but this feels different.
::
:: My sense is that I don't want to push through it, but
:: if most ppl do I'd be willing to try.
::
:: So I've been get one in the right arch, only, and my
:: gut reaction is the right foot is 'too tense', or
:: 'dominating', so I switch to emphasizing the left
:: foot. (on left foot, I think 'mash; mash', heh.)
::
:: Usually I shake my foot and reposition on the pedal
:: but that doesn't seem to have a lasting effect.
:: Happens typically only after the 10 mile mark.
::
:: Thoughts?

Well, on the 17th of April I started riding seriously
again (I'm in SC)

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I'm training for my first century (I started cycling last
September at

age

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

45 after not riding since age 12). I've noticed something
in my right

foot.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I can't quite pin what causes it, but I think it is
happens after I stop (like at a light) and lean over on
one foot (the right) to support

myself.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

When I begin riding again, I feel some "weirdness" in
that foot that

bothers

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

me for a while. I think it happens well into my rides,
which are on the order of 25 to 35 miles a piece so far.
After a while it seems to go

away

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and I don't think about it after the ride is over.

Yeah, mine goes away immediately and never think about it
after the ride.

Gut reaction is I'm overtensing that foot.

Heh, it's sometimes difficult to push yourself, and
continuously remember to 'relax'.

Thx for the input. Good mileage, already btw! ;-)

-B

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jmk said:

I used to get hot spots on the bottom of the foot as well.
I invested in a good pair of shoes (Sidi) and haven;t had
any problems since. At first I balked at dropping about
USD$200, but I had no regrets and ended up buying another
pair for my other bike (which has different pedals/cleats).

Hmm. Interesting. If I wasn't clear, that's where mine
is, bottom of the foot. (Arch/instep, hard to know what
to call it)

I'll look into the shoe thing. I'm currently just wearing a
good walking shoe from New Balance (852) for the side
support, (on my doc's recommendation), and not an actual
biking shoe, FWIW.

Best,

-B

On Sat, 01 May 2004 20:44:35 -0400, Badger_South <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

jmk said:

I used to get hot spots on the bottom of the foot as well.
I invested in a good pair of shoes (Sidi) and haven;t had
any problems since. At first I balked at dropping about
USD$200, but I had no regrets and ended up buying another
pair for my other bike (which has different
pedals/cleats).

Hmm. Interesting. If I wasn't clear, that's where mine
is, bottom of the foot. (Arch/instep, hard to know what
to call it)

I'll look into the shoe thing. I'm currently just wearing a
good walking shoe from New Balance (852) for the side
support, (on my doc's recommendation), and not an actual
biking shoe, FWIW.

Best,

-B

Walking shoes have decent flexibility in the sole, which
great for the motion of walking. But when biking, you don't
want the foot flexing in reaction to the pressure of
pedalling. You might be straining the arch of your foot,
leading to the hot feeling. Maybe only one side because you
aren't sing both sides in the same way?

You could buy biking shoes. There are mountain bike
style/street biking shoes that are fine to use without the
cleats and they will give you some stiffness.I have a pair
of Shimano SH- MO34 shoes, which are bit stiff for walking
and a bit flexible for biking, but a decent compromise.

The other option is to pay more attention to what happens to
your right foot, and see if there are ways in your pedalling
to reduce the strain. If your right leg is your stronger
leg, that might explain the extra strain on that side. Suggestion-
spend some time paying more attention to the *left* leg,
practice using it with more force and letting the right leg
just float along for the ride. This might balance out your
pedalling and foot pressure. Also pay attention to lifting
up the right leg rather than pushing down.

On Sat, 01 May 2004 17:59:24 -0700, Dan Daniel <[email hidden]>

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Walking shoes have decent flexibility in the sole, which
great for the motion of walking. But when biking, you don't
want the foot flexing in reaction to the pressure of
pedalling. You might be straining the arch of your foot,
leading to the hot feeling. Maybe only one side because you
aren't using both sides in the same way?

This makes a lot of sense. Thx!

Best, -B

Quoted message said:

My right foot gets pained (not hot, though) in and near the
toes; I know it's from that foot being tense. My toes tense
up to curl down, and I have to make a very difficult
conscious effort to overcome it.

I get the above if I'm doing anything over about 15 miles.
In my case I think it's a mixture of tensing my foot and the
fact the sole of the shoe is so hard directly next to the
sole of my foot.

I have sorted it :-)

I got some thin Sorbothane insoles for my cycling shoes. See
return2fitness.co.ukproduct.phpOpen ↗ Works
wonders for me. The difference is noticeable from as soon as
I set off cycling. Bliss.

Cheers, helen s

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On 02 May 2004 09:37:41 GMT, [email hidden]

(dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers) said:

I get the above if I'm doing anything over about 15 miles.
In my case I think it's a mixture of tensing my foot and
the fact the sole of the shoe is so hard directly next to
the sole of my foot.

I have sorted it :-)

I got some thin Sorbothane insoles for my cycling shoes.
See return2fitness.co.ukproduct.phpOpen ↗
Works wonders for me. The difference is noticeable from as
soon as I set off cycling. Bliss.

Cheers, helen s

Thx Helen. I'll look into those.

-B

I will get hot spots on the foot typically on longer (50+
miles) rides, or when the weather's warm. The cure is to
wear my roadie shoes, which are both a hair too large for me
and have great ventilation, and a pair of cushy smart wool
trail runner (cushier than their bike) socks. The combo of
the extra padding and ventilation will prevent the problem.

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Claire Petersky said:

I will get hot spots on the foot typically on longer (50+
miles) rides, or when the weather's warm. The cure is to
wear my roadie shoes, which are both a hair too large for
me and have great ventilation, and a pair of cushy smart
wool trail runner (cushier than their bike) socks. The
combo of the extra padding and ventilation will prevent
the problem.

Not sure we're talking about the same thing. This kind of
hot spot is not generated by poor ventilation, but seems to
be a deep internal thing like a tendon heat up due to poor
biomechanicals or overuse, and it just feels like 'danger'.
It's not a 'surface' thing, like wearing too many layers or
something.

Thx for the input though.

-B

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Quoted message said:

Walking shoes have decent flexibility in the sole, which
great for the motion of walking. But when biking, you
don't want the foot flexing in reaction to the pressure of
pedalling. You might be straining the arch of your foot,
leading to the hot feeling. Maybe only one side because
you aren't sing both sides in the same way?

Interesting thought -- I just posted that I thought the
roadie shoes prevented hot spots because of ventilation, but
they also have a tremendously stiff sole -- much stiffer
than my commuter shoe. Maybe that's the big difference, and
I just wasn't aware of it.

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Badger_South said:

On Sun, 02 May 2004 15:22:17 GMT, "Claire Petersky" <cpetersky@mouse-

potato.com said:

I will get hot spots on the foot typically on longer (50+
miles) rides, or when the weather's warm. The cure is to
wear my roadie shoes, which are both a hair too large for
me and have great ventilation, and a pair of cushy smart
wool trail runner (cushier than their bike) socks. The
combo of the extra padding and ventilation will prevent
the problem.

Not sure we're talking about the same thing. This kind of
hot spot is not generated by poor ventilation, but seems
to be a deep internal thing like a tendon heat up due to
poor biomechanicals or overuse, and it just feels like
'danger'. It's not a 'surface' thing, like wearing too
many layers or something.

Thx for the input though.

-B

Fit! Fit! Fit! This would include the position of your
cleats on your shoes while on the bike.

BTW, the shoe liners work great for me, too.

HAND

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Quoted message said:

Interesting thought -- I just posted that I thought the
roadie shoes prevented hot spots because of ventilation,
but they also have a tremendously stiff sole -- much
stiffer than my commuter shoe. Maybe that's the big
difference, and I just wasn't aware of it.

Sole thickness varies from brand to brand and can vary
within the brand.

My Sidi Dominator mountain shoes are much stiffer than the
Shimano mountain shoes they replaced.

Pedal platform also plays a role. If you are riding using
"normal" pedals with toeclips you have a much larger
platform than someone using an SPD pedal.

It's best to think in terms of "shoe-pedal" systems when
considering how much flexing the foot this allowed.

Chris Neary [email hidden]

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ask of life? Bicycling combined all the elements I loved" -
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Sometimes my right foot gets a 'hot' spot in the arch.
I've hear ppl talk about their 'hot spots' forming usually
during long endurance races, but never really define what
it is that I recall. Tendon rubbing, repetitive stress,
too much pressure, blood flow limited by muscle spasm?

Obviously you can have a 'hot spot' on the bottom of the
foot sometimes signalling a blister is about to form, but
this feels different.

My sense is that I don't want to push through it, but if
most ppl do I'd be willing to try.

So I've been get one in the right arch, only, and my gut
reaction is the right foot is 'too tense', or
'dominating', so I switch to emphasizing the left foot.
(on left foot, I think 'mash; mash', heh.)

Usually I shake my foot and reposition on the pedal but
that doesn't seem to have a lasting effect. Happens
typically only after the 10 mile mark.

Thoughts?

-B

This is a common problem known as "hot foot." It happens
when the nerves in your foot are compressed, creating a
burning sensation. The link below is to an article that
describes the problem and offers suggestions for curing it:

roadbikerider.comarticles.htmOpen ↗
20Painful%20Hot%20Foot

Good luck, Richard Stanz