Do these riders exsist

Ben said:

Saw a sign at the new Brisbane Criterium Track Albert Bishop Park.
Warning this circuit is used by high speed cyclists who exceed 70 k' s an
hour ???
Do these mythical riders really exsist ??

Is it a crit circuit or a velodrome?

Either way, track sprinters can hit that speed and if there's a
bunch or a downhill or tailwind so could the roadies...

hippy

Its a crit, really, I just found it hard to believe, when I go like a man
possesed, I can only hit aroud 55ks an hour.
Ok so now I beleive it, thanks
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Ben said:

Saw a sign at the new Brisbane Criterium Track Albert Bishop Park.
Warning this circuit is used by high speed cyclists who exceed 70 k' s
an
hour ???
Do these mythical riders really exsist ??

Is it a crit circuit or a velodrome?

Either way, track sprinters can hit that speed and if there's a
bunch or a downhill or tailwind so could the roadies...

hippy

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hippy

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Quoted message said:

Saw a sign at the new Brisbane Criterium Track Albert Bishop Park.

Warning this circuit is used by high speed cyclists who exceed 70 k' s an
hour ???
Do these mythical riders really exsist ??

If it's anything like the crit track at the Dunc Grey Velodrome in Sydney I
would think such speeds are within the reach of a race fit rider. On the
crit track in Sydney, whilst warming up for our track events, on the run
through the chicanes we (me and a few others visiting for the Aust Masters
Champs) were hitting speeds of 50 - 55 km/h without really trying. So on
the straights I do not think speeds of 70km/h would be impossible. This
crit track is the fastest smoothest bit of road I have ever ridden on. I
think all of us that rode it had a huge smile on our faces after the first
lap.

But with speed comes danger. The damage to the fence on the outside of the
twisty bit of the course was a stark reminder that you must keep your wits
about you or you'll end up hitting the fence like this person obviously did.
The damage to the fence looked as if their handlebars had gotten caught in
the wire mesh at great speed and dragged a big hole. I wonder how the rider
and bike involved faired. My guess is, probably not too well.

If this Brisbane track is anything like the Sydney one, enjoy. :-)

Geoff
-wishing that Melbourne had such a facility.

Ben said:

Saw a sign at the new Brisbane Criterium Track Albert Bishop Park.

Warning this circuit is used by high speed cyclists who exceed 70 k' s an
hour ???
Do these mythical riders really exsist ??

Well, when qualifying for the sprints, they have a 200 meter qulifyer, that fastest average speed over that distance is over 80 km/h so 70 K is definately within reach.

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Well, when qualifying for the sprints, they have a 200 meter qulifyer,
that fastest average speed over that distance is over 80 km/h so 70 K
is definately within reach.

Show me the maths for that one!
Yes, the track cyclists crack 70kph in their qualifying - NOT 80.
70kph is a DOWNHILL speed on the road. Robbie McEwen does about 67kph.
I do about 63 - but there's a suspicion of wind (or gravity) assistance!
--
Mark Lee

Mark Lee said:

Show me the maths for that one!
Yes, the track cyclists crack 70kph in their qualifying - NOT 80.
70kph is a DOWNHILL speed on the road. Robbie McEwen does about 67kph.
I do about 63 - but there's a suspicion of wind (or gravity) assistance!
--
Mark Lee

F-"84.7kph unassisted. 88.7kph suckin-wheel on BR"-D

Mark Lee said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Well, when qualifying for the sprints, they have a 200 meter qulifyer,
that fastest average speed over that distance is over 80 km/h so 70 K
is definately within reach.

Show me the maths for that one!
Yes, the track cyclists crack 70kph in their qualifying - NOT 80.
70kph is a DOWNHILL speed on the road. Robbie McEwen does about 67kph.
I do about 63 - but there's a suspicion of wind (or gravity) assistance!
--
Mark Lee

Nah, during the olympics, I watched the 200 m qualifiying, and they said the world record was 82 or 83 km/h. Maybe I got it wrong, was it 72? could not be, the one hour record is over 65 km/h, right? Can they only muster an extra 7 k when going for 10 secs? Sounds weird.

"Claes" <[email hidden]

Quoted message said:

Nah, during the olympics, I watched the 200 m qualifiying, and they
said the world record was 82 or 83 km/h. Maybe I got it wrong, was it
72? could not be, the one hour record is over 65 km/h, right? Can they
only muster an extra 7 k when going for 10 secs? Sounds weird.

The hour record is 56kph not 65.
http://townsleyb.members.beeb.net/procycle/HOUR1.HTM

hippy

Claes said:

Nah, during the olympics, I watched the 200 m qualifiying, and they said the world record was 82 or 83 km/h. Maybe I got it wrong, was it 72? could not be, the one hour record is over 65 km/h, right? Can they only muster an extra 7 k when going for 10 secs? Sounds weird.

I found the results for Athens 2004 they are here:results and I was WRONG. They must have said 72 km/h, Ryan Bayley did just over 70 in the qualification. I guess our own forays into above 80 k territory has warped my sense of what is resonable. 😉

flyingdutch said:

F-"84.7kph unassisted. 88.7kph suckin-wheel on BR"-D

Hey, this sunday you have tell well ahead of the hill, it seems like the hill is steepest at the start/middle, and not steep at the end, so one needs to start building speed early on. 😉

hippy said:

"Claes" <[email hidden]

Quoted message said:

Nah, during the olympics, I watched the 200 m qualifiying, and they
said the world record was 82 or 83 km/h. Maybe I got it wrong, was it
72? could not be, the one hour record is over 65 km/h, right? Can they
only muster an extra 7 k when going for 10 secs? Sounds weird.

The hour record is 56kph not 65.
http://townsleyb.members.beeb.net/procycle/HOUR1.HTM

hippy

What? Have I gone completely senile? I was sure that Indurain produced over 63 k. Have they changed the rules and then reset the records perhaps?

Claes said:

What? Have I gone completely senile? I was sure that Indurain produced over 63 k. Have they changed the rules and then reset the records perhaps?

I am fekking senile, I am adding 10 k to everything. Gaaah.
it was 53 k.

"Claes" <[email hidden]

Quoted message said:

hippy said:

The hour record is 56kph not 65.
http://townsleyb.members.beeb.net/procycle/HOUR1.HTM

What? Have I gone completely senile? I was sure that Indurain produced
over 63 k. Have they changed the rules and then reset the records
perhaps?

Nope. 53kph. I think he only made one attempt. He did
have the highest estimate output though I think. Even the
"unlimited" record isn't near 63kph. The HPV record IS
substantially higher though.

http://www.bikecult.com/bikecultbook/sports_recordsHour.html

hippy

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 at 02:39 GMT, Claes (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Quoted message said:

Claes said:

Nah, during the olympics, I watched the 200 m qualifiying, and they said
the world record was 82 or 83 km/h. Maybe I got it wrong, was it 72?
could not be, the one hour record is over 65 km/h, right? Can they only
muster an extra 7 k when going for 10 secs? Sounds weird.

I found the results for Athens 2004 they are here:'results'
(http://tinyurl.com/4wme2) and I was WRONG. They must have said 72
km/h, Ryan Bayley did just over 70 in the qualification. I guess our
own forays into above 80 k territory has warped my sense of what is
resonable. 😉

Are you sure you calibrated your computer correctly. When it says you
have done 1km, have you really done exactly 1km?

Lastnight, I got a bit of a wind assist down my local hill, and I was
going about equal with the cars (ie, 60). I checked the computer this
morning, and it reckoned my top speed was 99.6 km/h[1]. Woot 🙂

[1] Not 99.9, which you'd expect if something went wrong. Not quite
knowing what bug got into that system.

--
TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/
FORTRAN is a good example of a language which is easier to parse
using ad hoc techniques. -- D. Gries

"TimC" <[email hidden]

Quoted message said:

Lastnight, I got a bit of a wind assist down my local hill, and I was
going about equal with the cars (ie, 60).

So you were in a 50 zone then ;-)

hippy

TimC said:

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 at 02:39 GMT, Claes (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Quoted message said:

Claes said:

Nah, during the olympics, I watched the 200 m qualifiying, and they said
the world record was 82 or 83 km/h. Maybe I got it wrong, was it 72?
could not be, the one hour record is over 65 km/h, right? Can they only
muster an extra 7 k when going for 10 secs? Sounds weird.

I found the results for Athens 2004 they are here:'results'
(http://tinyurl.com/4wme2) and I was WRONG. They must have said 72
km/h, Ryan Bayley did just over 70 in the qualification. I guess our
own forays into above 80 k territory has warped my sense of what is
resonable. 😉

Are you sure you calibrated your computer correctly. When it says you
have done 1km, have you really done exactly 1km?

Lastnight, I got a bit of a wind assist down my local hill, and I was
going about equal with the cars (ie, 60). I checked the computer this
morning, and it reckoned my top speed was 99.6 km/h[1]. Woot 🙂

[1] Not 99.9, which you'd expect if something went wrong. Not quite
knowing what bug got into that system.

--
TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/
FORTRAN is a good example of a language which is easier to parse
using ad hoc techniques. -- D. Gries

Yepp, I know we went over 80 k. If your meter shows 99.9 that has got little to do with the calibration of it I suspect, probably more external influence, such as going under a power line. I regulary get speeds over 200 k on my polar but it is easy to see when you get them from a powerline, the reading I mean.

Hippy, Indurin went at it twice, 1995 as well, and failed, then he quit. Pity.

Ben said:

Saw a sign at the new Brisbane Criterium Track Albert Bishop Park.

Warning this circuit is used by high speed cyclists who exceed 70 k' s an
hour ???
Do these mythical riders really exsist ??

Canadian Kurt Harentt has done a 9.685 flying 200. 20.65m/s = 74.466 kph. I think that was at altitude though. This probably means he hit a top speed of over 80 kph. Going at over 60 on the road is moving pretty well though.