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  1. I guess is lost on Crank Bros....

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/index.php?id=/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/eurobike077/Crank_Brothers_Cobalt_rear_wheel

  2. Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com said:

    I guess is lost on Crank Bros....

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/index.php?id=/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/eurobike077/Crank_Brothers_Cobalt_rear_wheel

    yeegads....

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/index.php?id=/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/eurobike077/Crank_Brothers_Cobalt_wheel_half_spokes

  3. Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com said:

    Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.comwrote:

    Quoted message said:

    I guess is lost on Crank Bros....

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/index.ph...

    yeegads....

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/index.ph...

    That MUST be a joke.

    Joseph

  4. Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com said:
    Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com said:

    I guess is lost on Crank Bros....

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/index....

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/index.p...

    Well, you gotta go through a couple of throw aways before you find the
    idea that you really want to keep? Maybe?

  5. email hidden said:

    On Sep 7, 2:53 pm, "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com"

    Quoted message said:

    Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.comwrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I guess is lost on Crank Bros....

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    Quoted message said:

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/index.ph...

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    yeegads....

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/index.ph...

    That MUST be a joke.

    Joseph

    Steel-good, aluminum-better..mix, better still...

  6. Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com said:


    Quoted message said:

    I guess is lost on Crank Bros....

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/index.ph...

    yeegads....

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/index.ph...

    It's for selling!

    Chalo

  7. Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com said:

    I guess is lost on Crank Bros....

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/index.ph...

    How compliant is it?

    [/gag!]

  8. Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com said:

    On Sep 7, 7:18 am, "[email hidden]"

    Quoted message said:

    On Sep 7, 2:53 pm, "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com"

    Quoted message said:
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    Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.comwrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > I guess is lost on Crank Bros....

    Quoted message said:
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    >http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/index.ph...

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    yeegads....

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/index.ph...

    Quoted message said:

    That MUST be a joke.

    Quoted message said:

    Joseph

    Steel-good, aluminum-better..mix, better still...

    It should be far more dynamic!

  9. Chalo said:

    Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.comwrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I guess is lost on Crank Bros....

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/index.ph...

    Quoted message said:

    yeegads....

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/index.ph...

    It's for selling!

    /veloklaxon!

  10. Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com said:

    I guess is lost on Crank Bros....

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/index.ph...

    You beat me to it. I saw these wheels on Cycling News and wondered
    "How do people think these things up?" Even if I spent all day week
    after week trying to come up with the wackiest wheel idea possible, I
    could not dream up such things. It must be a skill to be that
    imaginative.

  11. On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 05:53:00 -0700, "Qui si parla

    Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com said:


    Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com said:

    I guess is lost on Crank Bros....

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/index.php?id=/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/eurobike077/Crank_Brothers_Cobalt_rear_wheel

    yeegads....

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/index.php?id=/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/eurobike077/Crank_Brothers_Cobalt_wheel_half_spokes

    Dear Peter,

    Actually, it's just a return to classic wheelbuilding at its finest!

    The first tensioned wheels by Starley used the vee-spoke looped
    through an eyelet on the rim:

    http://www.arielcycles.me.uk/history/images/starley03-3.jpg

    Spokes that unscrew like pool cues were a clever way to allow
    replacing broken spokes on cross-7 high-wheelers:

    http://i3.tinypic.com/5ymzs40.jpg

    With that many spokes, putting pairs of spoke-holes next to each other
    on the hub xx xx xx xx was another trick to allow 7x lacing
    without one spoke covering the head of another spoke--not a problem
    with the modern low spoke-count wheel from Crank Brothers.

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

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    landotter said:
    Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com said:
    email hidden said:

    On Sep 7, 2:53 pm, "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.comwrote:

    Quoted message said:

    >> I guess is lost on Crank Bros....

    Quoted message said:

    >>http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/index.ph...

    Quoted message said:

    > yeegads....

    Quoted message said:

    >http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/index.ph...

    Quoted message said:

    That MUST be a joke.

    Steel-good, aluminum-better..mix, better still...

    It should be far more dynamic!

    Stiffer handling and a more compliant ride.

    --
    Michael Press

  13. Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com said:

    I guess is lost on Crank Bros....

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/index.php?id=/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/eurobike077/Crank_Brothers_Cobalt_rear_wheel


    Well, I wish the rims were more conventional - I'm a sucker for a
    beautiful blue!

  14. "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:

    I guess is lost on Crank Bros....

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/index.php?id=/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/eurobike077/Crank_Brothers_Cobalt_rear_wheel

    What do they weigh?

  15. Frank Drackman said:

    "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    messagenews:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I guess is lost on Crank Bros....

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/index.ph...

    What do they weigh?

    Hank Crank: 175 pounds, Tony (The Tank) Crank: 210

  16. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com said:

    I guess is lost on Crank Bros....

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/index.php?id=/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/eurobike077/Crank_Brothers_Cobalt_rear_wheel

    Well, I'm not sure that axiom is necessarily reasonable or right. Had it
    been in place at Apple, they would never have entered the portable music
    player market, or the music-over-the-internet market.

    As for Crank Brothers, they're most famous for their pedals. Those
    pedals, if I remember correctly, were about their third product line,
    after their multi-tools and their speed lever (maybe their pump was
    third).

    That said, this design looks weird. But it's a clever way to make a
    really good tubeless rim. And it can be trued with a conventional spoke
    wrench!

    --
    Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
    "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
    to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

  17. "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I guess is lost on Crank Bros....

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/index.php?id=/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/eurobike077/Crank_Brothers_Cobalt_rear_wheel

    Rip-off of Rolf's paired spokes?

  18. Paul Myron Hobson said:

    Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.comwrote:

    Quoted message said:

    Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.comwrote:

    Quoted message said:

    I guess is lost on Crank Bros....

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/index....

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/index.p...

    Well, you gotta go through a couple of throw aways before you find the
    idea that you really want to keep? Maybe?

    They already did that with pedal design..got a good one now..why they
    want to make such a silly idea, that does nothing new but emphasizes
    'unique to this wheel' parts, is silly...but their $.

  19. Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com said:

    They already did that with pedal design..got a good one now..why they
    want to make such a silly idea, that does nothing new but emphasizes
    'unique to this wheel' parts, is silly...but their $.

    Yes, being unique is very important... that is what the consumers want
    to see. They want to buy something unique so *they* will be unique.
    I'd being willing to cut CB some slack on these as long as they are as
    durable as a conventional wheel at a similar weight that would cost
    half as much... many manufacturers don't meet that "requirement".

  20. Ron Ruff said:

    On Sep 8, 6:20 am, "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com"

    Quoted message said:

    They already did that with pedal design..got a good one now..why they
    want to make such a silly idea, that does nothing new but emphasizes
    'unique to this wheel' parts, is silly...but their $.

    Yes, being unique is very important... that is what the consumers want
    to see. They want to buy something unique so *they* will be unique.
    I'd being willing to cut CB some slack on these as long as they are as
    durable as a conventional wheel at a similar weight that would cost
    half as much... many manufacturers don't meet that "requirement".

    BUT it will probably be less durable, weigh maybe about the same and
    be more expensive. PLUS in 2-3 years, they will have moved onto
    something else with no spokes/barrells/rims as replacements...I guess
    manufacturers have to try to be onnovative in this pretty flat market
    but I just don't see why CB can't just stick to pedals. They do that
    well.

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