Do i simply have to...

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Im not looking for a flat board stomach,i lift heavy and i know ill be
more bulky and im fine with that,but my god cant i have some shape or
muscle showing this on my tummy?????

Yep. Reduce your body fat percentage by eating less and gradually over
time you will have some shape and muscle showing up on your tummy. No
abdominal exercise is going to help you see the muscle you have since
even if you managed to grow your abs, they would be covered with fat.

You are wasting your time with doing hundreds of situps. If you want
to strengthen your abdominal muscles then do low reps, high resistance
training. But don't expect this to help you with what you want:
defined abs. You can only get defined abs by lowering your body fat.
For men you will likely have to get below 12%.

Rich

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I have been working out many years.

But you've only just started typing, right? Holy [censored], Brooklyn! You
type FOR [censored]!

(ducks and runs) :-D

Go ahead:

The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy brown dog.
The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy brown dog.

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Now where does my constant floor come in,
you know it my BELLY!!

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600-800 situps at a time through the day.

Unnecessary.

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I try to do the tightest form i can and
isolate the muscles but no matter what
i hardly ever feel and burn there.

Well, then the hell with situps. Try a different exercise. How about
leg raises hanging from a chin bar or supported on one of those dip
stations? Keep momentum to a minimum (no swinging your legs) and really
/feel/ the movement as you perform slow, continuous tension
repetitions.

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am i over training my abs by not only doing
it daily but countless times daily.

Maybe.

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my diet!

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i have the fried breast for dinner

Fried breast? Chicken? Frying and fat reduction seems bass ackwards.

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i just shop economy wise since im not the
only one eating and money is scarce.

Well, I've been hitting the spinach and at least that's inexpensive.
And oatmeal isn't caviar, right? There are lots of cheap but healthy
options. Perhaps that'd be a good thread to start...

Anyone? Anyone? Ferris?

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Im not looking for a flat board stomach

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cant i have some shape or muscle showing
this on my tummy?????

Yes, but as has been passed on to you elswhere in this thread your
bodyfat has to be reduced before you'll see any six-pack action.

And even then you could be screwed. Boyer Coe, Olympia bodybuilding
competitor of years gone by, was never able to develop any manner of
six-pack. Just not genetically capable. Lee Priest, another Olympia
competitor has been quoted as stating he does NO ab work, but that his
six-pack is all from dieting.

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ive read about cortisol

I've also read about cortisol. This may be unrelated to the
antidepressant you mentioned, but a friend was on Paxil and I remember
the bottle saying to NOT use with alcohol. And alcohol use is supposed
to do a job on your hormones/cortisol so far as getting cut is
concerned, iirc.

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sorry for the novel

Nah! I like reading books. Welcome to misc.fitness.weights, Brooklyn.

Best of luck with your abs.

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/

brklyn234 said:

I have been working out many years.Recently to my delight im noticing
my better gains are with a decrease workout out in lentgh.

I also started semi recnetly working on neglected body parts,and im
pretty happy with the rate of over all progress.

Now where does my constant floor come in,you know it my BELLY!!

I never had good genectics in that area,however i have become i guess
addicted,or just created a habbit where i will spradically drop and do
600-800 situps at a time through the day.

Sit-ups or crunches? Unless you are training for ab endurance you
need to add resistance/difficulity.

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I have been doing this well well over a year and see no results!I try
to do the tightest form i can and isolate the muscles but no matter
what i hardly ever feel and burn there.

So?

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I have also tried resistane with a plate but my arms feel a burn before
my stomach does,and all that happens is the weight causes me to loose
good form before it does anything else.

Concentrate on using good form no matter. Make sure you are
crunching your torso during the sit-up.

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Now heres where I KNOW is a problem,my diet!I dont eat junk food,i dont
visit the store EVER for chips,or cookies,i dont eat out.

But my grocery shopping is normal,meaning i have the waffle with
cereal,or i have the fried breast for dinner,i dont shop for a person
into weight lifting i just shor economy wise sense im not the only one
eating and money is scarce.

Im not looking for a flat board stomach,i lift heavy and i know ill be
more bulky and im fine with that,but my god cant i have some shape or
muscle showing this on my tummy?????

Cut calories to lose weight, maiinly by cutting out some carbs.

Thanks guys i guess i feared i knew the answer,which is my diet.Just as
much as i enjoy building im not in a state where i can be firm with my
diet.I can become more strict,but at times im lucky if i eat at all
anyone dealing with depression poorly treated knows that.

Thanks for the tips guys!

In article <[email hidden]>,

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Thanks guys i guess i feared i knew the answer,which is my diet.Just as
much as i enjoy building im not in a state where i can be firm with my
diet.I can become more strict,but at times im lucky if i eat at all
anyone dealing with depression poorly treated knows that.

Thanks for the tips guys!

For depression, lift _heavier_!

Seriously. ;-)

Cheers!!!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson