DL weak point question...

In article <[email hidden]>, Mark

Quoted message said:

I DL conventional, and am plagued by my ass rising before the bar
leading to a *sic* sweet round back DL. My form is better doing lifts
standing on plates than on the ground.

Any ideas of things I can touch up?

Not looking for major form changes (yet), but I've heard that if your
ass comes up, it might have to do with weak hamstrings, although this is
here-say, and I don't know a biomechanical reason for it.

GMs, GHR, leg curls, pull-throughs (no rev. hyper)? All of the above?

I dunno. I've seen some really strong deadlifters who shoot their butt.
Tom Nichols comes to mind.

So it may not really be a weak point.

But one thing I do is really focus on driving my abs against my belt and
then pushing my feet thru the floor. It might help.

--
Keith

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:07:03 -0600, [email hidden] (Hobbes) wrote
in misc.fitness.weights:

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Mark

Quoted message said:

I DL conventional, and am plagued by my ass rising before the bar
leading to a *sic* sweet round back DL. My form is better doing lifts
standing on plates than on the ground.

Any ideas of things I can touch up?

Not looking for major form changes (yet), but I've heard that if your
ass comes up, it might have to do with weak hamstrings, although this is
here-say, and I don't know a biomechanical reason for it.

GMs, GHR, leg curls, pull-throughs (no rev. hyper)? All of the above?

I dunno. I've seen some really strong deadlifters who shoot their butt.
Tom Nichols comes to mind.

So it may not really be a weak point.

But one thing I do is really focus on driving my abs against my belt and
then pushing my feet thru the floor. It might help.

And front squats. They help me keep my ass down.

"Mark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I DL conventional, and am plagued by my ass rising before the bar
leading to a *sic* sweet round back DL. My form is better doing lifts
standing on plates than on the ground.

Any ideas of things I can touch up?

Not looking for major form changes (yet), but I've heard that if your
ass comes up, it might have to do with weak hamstrings, although this
is here-say, and I don't know a biomechanical reason for it.

GMs, GHR, leg curls, pull-throughs (no rev. hyper)? All of the above?

I agree with Keith - focus on pushing the floor away with your feet.
That takes care of it for many people, me included. Your "problem"
doesn't necessarily indicate a muscular weakness, just form that some
people might call bad.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

Mark said:

I DL conventional, and am plagued by my ass rising before the bar
leading to a *sic* sweet round back DL. My form is better doing lifts
standing on plates than on the ground.

-- Probably cause you use less weight when standing on plates.

Quoted message said:

Not looking for major form changes (yet), but I've heard that if your
ass comes up, it might have to do with weak hamstrings, although this is
here-say, and I don't know a biomechanical reason for it.

That's what I've heard. It also takes some lower back strength to keep
the lower back from rounding.

Quoted message said:

GMs, GHR, leg curls, pull-throughs (no rev. hyper)? All of the above?

Pause Squats, GHRs, leg curls and plate drags are some good ones
I've done. Try 1-2 in your squat workout and 1 in your DL workout.

"Mark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I DL conventional, and am plagued by my ass rising before the bar leading
to a *sic* sweet round back DL. My form is better doing lifts standing on
plates than on the ground.

Any ideas of things I can touch up?

Not looking for major form changes (yet), but I've heard that if your ass
comes up, it might have to do with weak hamstrings, although this is
here-say, and I don't know a biomechanical reason for it.

GMs, GHR, leg curls, pull-throughs (no rev. hyper)? All of the above?

Mark

I'd examine your form 1st. Are you leading with your head? Do that, your
shoulders follow, which helps keep your hips down. If your 1st movement is
hips rising, thats a form issue, not a strength issue. Videotape yourself
from the side and check out what is going on.

"Mark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I DL conventional, and am plagued by my ass rising before the bar leading
to a *sic* sweet round back DL. My form is better doing lifts standing on
plates than on the ground.

Any ideas of things I can touch up?

Not looking for major form changes (yet), but I've heard that if your ass
comes up, it might have to do with weak hamstrings, although this is
here-say, and I don't know a biomechanical reason for it.

GMs, GHR, leg curls, pull-throughs (no rev. hyper)? All of the above?

Mark

I'd examine your form 1st. Are you leading with your head? Do that, your
shoulders follow, which helps keep your hips down. If your 1st movement is
hips rising, thats a form issue, not a strength issue. Videotape yourself
from the side and check out what is going on.

"Mark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I DL conventional, and am plagued by my ass rising before the bar leading
to a *sic* sweet round back DL. My form is better doing lifts standing on
plates than on the ground.

Any ideas of things I can touch up?

Not looking for major form changes (yet), but I've heard that if your ass
comes up, it might have to do with weak hamstrings, although this is
here-say, and I don't know a biomechanical reason for it.

GMs, GHR, leg curls, pull-throughs (no rev. hyper)? All of the above?

Mark

I'd examine your form 1st. Are you leading with your head? Do that, your
shoulders follow, which helps keep your hips down. If your 1st movement is
hips rising, thats a form issue, not a strength issue. Videotape yourself
from the side and check out what is going on.

"Mark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I DL conventional, and am plagued by my ass rising before the bar leading
to a *sic* sweet round back DL. My form is better doing lifts standing on
plates than on the ground.

Any ideas of things I can touch up?

Not looking for major form changes (yet), but I've heard that if your ass
comes up, it might have to do with weak hamstrings, although this is
here-say, and I don't know a biomechanical reason for it.

GMs, GHR, leg curls, pull-throughs (no rev. hyper)? All of the above?

Mark

I'd examine your form 1st. Are you leading with your head? Do that, your
shoulders follow, which helps keep your hips down. If your 1st movement is
hips rising, thats a form issue, not a strength issue. Videotape yourself
from the side and check out what is going on.