DIY MUni/Trials upgrade

Wheel building is rather simple, just take your time and do it right.

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subsonic87 said:

And I thought that the Maxxis would be a good choice for a MUni/trials
combo

I would go for a 'Try-All Stik-E' (http://tinyurl.com/8fzxw) tyre.

It's much better if you're gonna be doing muni with it too, I found the
creepy crawler a bit slippy and in mud it clogs too easily.

Sounds good otherwise.

T.

edit: that link is to the uk unicycle.com, i just looked on the us site
and couldn't find the try-all. you'll be able to get one somewhere
though i would think.

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Sorry, but that tire/rim combo WILL NOT fit that frame. Nor will any
combination of tires for that rim.

In fact, that frame wont fit much of anything.

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forrestunifreak said:

Sorry, but that tire/rim combo WILL NOT fit that frame. Nor will any
combination of tires for that rim.

In fact, that frame wont fit much of anything.

Alright, I'll add a frame to the list. A Nimbus, maybe (I have a Nimbus
29" that I love dearly):
http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=851

Quoted message said:

I would go for a Try-All Stik-E tyre.

It's much better if you're gonna be doing muni with it too, I found the
creepy crawler a bit slippy and in mud it clogs too easily.

Sounds good otherwise.

T.

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll try to track one down, or just have
Roger send me one.

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if you're gonna be making a wheelset and getting a frame, you might want
to consider a little extra outlay for a kh seat, a post, and some
pedals. That way you'd have two unicycles, and everyone knows you have
to collect as many unicycles as possible in your time on this earth.

I wouldn't worry about the frame much past clearance issues, from what
everyone keeps on saying in this forum they don't need to be top of the
line to stay together, something else will give first - so pick
something you like aesthetically.

If you're dropping 200$+ for this stuff though, it might be cool to
consider an extra 50 to complete the uni. Don't forget to order a rim
strip/tape! 😄

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flyer said:

if you're gonna be making a wheelset and getting a frame, you might want
to consider a little extra outlay for a kh seat, a post, and some
pedals. That way you'd have two unicycles, and everyone knows you have
to collect as many unicycles as possible in your time on this earth.

I wouldn't worry about the frame much past clearance issues, from what
everyone keeps on saying in this forum they don't need to be top of the
line to stay together, something else will give first - so pick
something you like aesthetically.

If you're dropping 200$+ for this stuff though, it might be cool to
consider an extra 50 to complete the uni. Don't forget to order a rim
strip/tape! 😄

Hmm. You have a point. Maybe I'm just better off buying a new uni? For
example, maybe the '06 Torker DX? UCD indicates that it has a splined
hub, but eBay sellers don't say. Info?

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Yes the DX is splined, and genreally comes pretty highly reccommended as
a beginner trials uni.

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subsonic87 said:

I had an epiphany last night: I am a DIY-type person. I love setting up
my basses, adding hard drives to my computer, etc. So, I decided
another upgrade to my battered Torker LX is in order (I already
upgraded to an air seat and better pedals). So, I would like to do more
MUni/Trials stuff, and fear that I will eventually taco my wheel (I'm a
pretty big guy), so I have decided to build myself a wheel (using the
online tutorial that is linked in another forum).

Cool

subsonic87 said:

So, I think I would use the following parts:
Qu-Ax splined hub (http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=844)

First: That is just the hub, it does not come with the cranks, which
you need. This is what you want:
http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=798

subsonic87 said:

Alex DX32 rim (http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=536)
Spokes (maybe get them locally, or for $.40 apiece on UDC)

Ok, here is another problem. The DX32 has 36 holes while the QU-AX hub
has 48. If you want to use that Hub you will need this rim:
http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=830 it has 48 holes.

subsonic87 said:

And I thought that the Maxxis would be a good choice for a MUni/trials
combo ('0http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=750'
(http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=750))

I like that tire. The TryAll tire is harder to get in the US I think.

subsonic87 said:

So, what do you lot think? Will it work? Would it be a substantial
enough upgrade to warrant the cost? Is wheelbuilding simple enough to
do?

I think that wheel will be good and plenty strong. but if I were you I
would get KH hub (http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=803)
and cranks and a KH rim
(http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=806) This would give
you a lighter wheelset and wider rim.

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Quoted message said:

First: That is just the hub, it does not come with the cranks, which you
need. This is what you want:
http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=798

Oh, right. Thanks. Evidently the UDC people just copied and pasted, as
the description reads " Model 2095-7. Features a 10-spline CrMo Axle
hardened, with aluminium shell, CrMo cranks, including screws and
spacers."

Quoted message said:

Ok, here is another problem. The DX32 has 36 holes while the QU-AX hub
has 48. If you want to use that Hub you will need this rim:
http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=830 it has 48 holes.

Thanks for the heads-up, but I really wanted a 24" wheel for MUni.
Looks like I have to rethink my hub/rim approach.

Quoted message said:

I think that wheel will be good and plenty strong. but if I were you I
would get KH hub (http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=803)
and cranks and a KH rim
(http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=806) This would give
you a lighter wheelset and wider rim.

Ouch. That's a bit expensive (a bit out of my price range). Thank you
for taking the time to respond in such detail, though. I might just end
up getting the Torker DX '06, as that's a lot cheaper.

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subsonic87 said:

...I might just end up getting the Torker DX '06, as that's a lot
cheaper.

I have the '05 DX and I *LOVE * it. The 06 DX looks even better.

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The '06 Torker DX's are no longer a beginner trials unicycle. Calling it
a begginer unicycle is too much of an understatement.

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UDC spokes, QuAx Cranks and hub, Freeride Rime, Duro 24X3tire, 24X3
tube, and rim strip would cost you $203.40. You'd have to skip every
4th hole on the hub to make it fit--this would probably work just fine,
as far as I know (but I've never tried it.)
If you went with the KH hub that actually fits, it'll cost a total of
$295, which would be stupid because you can buy all that pre-made for
the same exact price.
http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=665

Of course, none of those will fit your current frame, so add $40 for a
Yuni frame.

So in the end, you'd save about $86 with the QuAx hub over buying the
QuAx muni, and $16 over the Torker DX 2006--and then you get pedals, a
seat and seat post with it...and best of all, two complete unicycles.

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Skippii said:

UDC spokes, QuAx Cranks and hub, Freeride Rime, Duro 24X3tire, 24X3
tube, and rim strip would cost you $203.40. You'd have to skip every
4th hole on the hub to make it fit--this would probably work just fine,
as far as I know (but I've never tried it.)
If you went with the KH hub that actually fits, it'll cost a total of
$295, which would be stupid because you can buy all that pre-made for
the same exact price.
http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=665

Of course, none of those will fit your current frame, so add $40 for a
Yuni frame.

So in the end, you'd save about $86 with the QuAx hub over buying the
QuAx muni, and $16 over the Torker DX 2006--and then you get pedals, a
seat and seat post with it...and best of all, two complete unicycles.

Hmmm. You're beginning to persuade me back to my DIY perspective.
However, could I use the DX32 (I want it to be a 24", and the Freeride
is 19"😉 and that skipping-holes method?
That Duro tire looks good. The tire on Halfbike's Onza is knobby like
that, and he rides MUni and trials.
I'm not entirely sure I want another Uni. I am going off to college
next year, and will probably be able to take no more than 1 or 2 (and I
have high hopes for my Nimbus 29!). Also, the Torker LX I have now is
pretty beat up (and covered with college stickers), so I probably
couldn't get much money out of it. I could loan it out, I guess...

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The freeride is 24" and cheaper and wider (IIRC) than the DX32.
http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=804

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Skippii said:

The freeride is 24" and cheaper and wider (IIRC) than the DX32.
http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=804

Man, I'm an idiot 🙄 . Thanks. 😉

As for the skipping-holes method, has anyone ever tried this? Does it
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Alright, I've been searching for a rim that's got 48 holes (I kind of
don't think it's the best idea to use a 36 hole rim with a 48 hole
hub), and I've found one, the Halo:
http://tinyurl.com/dxh0
Also, Qu-Ax makes a 24" 48 hole rim. However, the Halo is 36mm and the
Qu-Ax is 38.5mm. Will they work with a super-wide knobby tire such as
the Duro?

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I thought you were building up a 20", I dunno if Try-All make the Stik-E
in 24" flavour.

subsonic87 said:

Also, Qu-Ax makes a 24" 48 hole rim. However, the Halo is 36mm and the
Qu-Ax is 38.5mm. Will they work with a super-wide knobby tire such as
the Duro?

After having upgraded my Muni to a Large Marge rim (24"😉, I would say
the wider the better. Now I'm thinking about getting a wider rim for
my trials uni.....

Super wide tyres work better with super wide rims. If you can't go
super wide, go as wide as you can.

T.

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DarkTom said:

I thought you were building up a 20", I dunno if Try-All make the Stik-E
in 24" flavour.

After having upgraded my Muni to a Large Marge rim (24"😉, I would say
the wider the better. Now I'm thinking about getting a wider rim for
my trials uni.....

Super wide tyres work better with super wide rims. If you can't go
super wide, go as wide as you can.

T.

OK. The thread regarding the Duro tire seems to indicate that the
minimum size for a rim is 25mm to work with the tire, so it looks like
it will work. I'm going on Saturday to take some extreme Uni pics with
halfbike, and am fulling intending to taco my rim 😄 😄 . I will
probably be investing in these upgrades shortly...

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