DIY degreaser

Jeremy Collins said:

Hi all,

I bought some Halfords citrus degreaser recently, and was
pleasantly surprised at how well it works. But at 10 quid
a litre, I can't help feeling that someone somewhere is
having a chuckle at my expense ;-)

Has anyone got a recipe for a DIY version? There can't
be that much to it...

Cheers,

There is a formulation for it here:

http://www.butchers.com/msds/4324.pdf

Citrus Oil (d-Limonene) is the magic ingredient. Look for a source of
that, and do some garden shed experiments.

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Jeremy Collins said:

Hi all,
I bought some Halfords citrus degreaser recently, and was pleasantly
surprised at how well it works. But at 10 quid a litre, I can't help
feeling that someone somewhere is having a chuckle at my expense ;-)
Has anyone got a recipe for a DIY version? There can't be that
much to it...
Cheers,
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If you want something cheaper to clean you chain with try Diesel, 79.5p
per litre and very readily available.

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Hi all,

I bought some Halfords citrus degreaser recently, and was
pleasantly surprised at how well it works. But at 10 quid
a litre, I can't help feeling that someone somewhere is
having a chuckle at my expense ;-)

Has anyone got a recipe for a DIY version? There can't
be that much to it...

Cheers,

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Quoted message said:

Hi all,

I bought some Halfords citrus degreaser recently, and was
pleasantly surprised at how well it works. But at 10 quid
a litre, I can't help feeling that someone somewhere is
having a chuckle at my expense ;-)

Has anyone got a recipe for a DIY version? There can't
be that much to it...

Cheers,

Whats wrong with white spirit?

davek said:

Jeremy Collins:

Quoted message said:

Has anyone got a recipe for a DIY version? There can't
be that much to it...

Vinegar. It's the best degreaser there is and you can buy a 5 litre flagon
from your local cash & carry for under a quid. I've never actually used it
on my bike and I'm not sure if there would be any detrimental side effects,
but it might be worth a try.

d.

I'm not sure submerging a chain into what came out of a flie's
backside is a good idea.

Martin Wilson said:

I'm not sure submerging a chain into what came out of a flie's
backside is a good idea.

What's a flie? And what does it have to do with vinegar?

The only problem I can envisage using vinegar would be the smell.

On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 08:14:11 GMT, in
<[email hidden]>, Jeremy Collins

Quoted message said:

Hi all,

I bought some Halfords citrus degreaser recently, and was
pleasantly surprised at how well it works. But at 10 quid
a litre, I can't help feeling that someone somewhere is
having a chuckle at my expense ;-)

Has anyone got a recipe for a DIY version? There can't
be that much to it...

No but degreaser can be reused. Degreaser works by dissolving grease
(surprise) which has the lovely side effect of making all the [censored] on
your chain come free. The [censored] does not get dissolved in the degreaser
and can subsequently be removed from it by filtering it through a
coffee filter paper or simply by decanting it.

The rescued solvent can be used many times before it becomes too
saturated for further use.

I don't recommend using recycled degreaser in mechanical
chain-cleaners since any [censored] still remaining from its previous use
could be abrasive. It is no problem for a cocktail clean though (stick
chain in scre-top container with degreaser and shake like mad)

HTH Rich x

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Simonb said:

Martin Wilson said:

I'm not sure submerging a chain into what came out of a flie's
backside is a good idea.

What's a flie? And what does it have to do with vinegar?

The only problem I can envisage using vinegar would be the smell.

Ok fly then. Vinegar=output from fly's backside.

Martin Wilson said:

davek said:

Jeremy Collins:

Quoted message said:

Has anyone got a recipe for a DIY version? There can't
be that much to it...

Vinegar. It's the best degreaser there is and you can buy a 5 litre flagon

Quoted message said:

from your local cash & carry for under a quid. I've never actually used it

Quoted message said:

on my bike and I'm not sure if there would be any detrimental side effects,
but it might be worth a try.

d.

I'm not sure submerging a chain into what came out of a flie's
backside is a good idea.

So that's where British vinegar (aka non-brewed condiment) comes from!
As opposed to proper vinegar, which you make by introducing wine to
vinegar bacteria. I'd always thought it was made in a chemical works
somewhere.

What's this Flie thing look like then? :-)

Jules

In article <[email hidden]>, martin.w6
@ukonline.co.uk says...

Quoted message said:

Simonb said:

Martin Wilson said:

I'm not sure submerging a chain into what came out of a flie's
backside is a good idea.

What's a flie? And what does it have to do with vinegar?

The only problem I can envisage using vinegar would be the smell.

Ok fly then. Vinegar=output from fly's backside.

In my world, Vinegar = product of secondary fermentation of alchohol.
This doesn't involve flies as far as I know.

Jon

Quoted message said:

So that's where British vinegar (aka non-brewed condiment) comes from!
As opposed to proper vinegar, which you make by introducing wine to
vinegar bacteria. I'd always thought it was made in a chemical works
somewhere.

What's this Flie thing look like then? :-)

Jules

Whats vinegar bacteria and how did it evolve?

All I can say is I went to one of those open farms and the process of
making vinegar was described in some detail but basically fly drinks
wine, whiskey or cider or whatever else. Fly pisses into where its
been drinking etc. You end up with a load of scummy stuff at the top
and a cloudyness in the liquid itself. This is called the mother of
the vinegar. A cloth of some sort is used to filter out the scum and
cloudy matter (the mother) and whats left is boiled up to sterilise
it. Thats vinegar. But basically however its made be it insects or
bacteria its formed from waste products of small animals.The way it
was described to me was an open jar which was left and flies are part
of the process. Perhaps your right and its mainly bacteria nowadays
but I'll keep my vinegar recipe with thousands of arses compared to
your recipe of millions of micro arses ;-)

Quoted message said:

Whats vinegar bacteria and how did it evolve?
All I can say is I went to one of those open farms and the process of
making vinegar was described in some detail but basically fly drinks
wine, whiskey or cider or whatever else. Fly pisses into where its been
drinking etc. You end up with a load of scummy stuff at the top and a
cloudyness in the liquid itself. This is called the mother of the
vinegar. A cloth of some sort is used to filter out the scum and cloudy
matter (the mother) and whats left is boiled up to sterilise
it. Thats vinegar. But basically however its made be it insects or
bacteria its formed from waste products of small animals.The way it
was described to me was an open jar which was left and flies are
part of the process. Perhaps your right and its mainly bacteria
nowadays but I'll keep my vinegar recipe with thousands of arses
compared to your recipe of millions of micro arses ;-)

Are you telling me I put fly [censored] on my chips every Friday? This can't
be true and is probably the death knell to British culture, a sad day.🙁

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Fat Lad said:

Are you telling me I put fly [censored] on my chips every Friday? This can't
be true and is probably the death knell to British culture, a sad
day.🙁

Anyone putting vinegar on their chips /deserves/ it to be a by-product of
flies :-) The combination is a Work of Stan.

That is all.

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Are you telling me I put fly [censored] on my chips every Friday? This can't
be true and is probably the death knell to British culture, a sad day.🙁

Well from the sound of it I'm probably talking about making vinegar in
bygone days as it was an old style farm and nowadays its a controlled
bacteria culture or something. So in which case you should be safe. No
flies involved but Its still [censored] though.

I suspect that the flies may have been a source of bacteria. Either
that, or the fumes from the large open vats of alcohol had gone straight
to your head. ;-)

Quoted message said:

Isn't vinegar a french recipe/idea anyway? I've not checked though and
so I'm probably wrong on this too. :-(

Yes vinaigre (IIRC) means sour wine.

Jon

Quoted message said:

Are you telling me I put fly [censored] on my chips every Friday? This can't
be true and is probably the death knell to British culture, a sad day.🙁

Well from the sound of it I'm probably talking about making vinegar in
bygone days as it was an old style farm and nowadays its a controlled
bacteria culture or something. So in which case you should be safe. No
flies involved but Its still [censored] though.

Isn't vinegar a french recipe/idea anyway? I've not checked though and
so I'm probably wrong on this too. :-(

Jeremy Collins said:

Hi all,

I bought some Halfords citrus degreaser recently, and was
pleasantly surprised at how well it works. But at 10 quid
a litre, I can't help feeling that someone somewhere is
having a chuckle at my expense ;-)

Has anyone got a recipe for a DIY version? There can't
be that much to it...

Thinners does a very good job, but has a tendency to make plastic spoke
protectors / chain cleaners go cloudy, and make you feel odd if you don't
work outside.

Quoted message said:

I suspect that the flies may have been a source of bacteria. Either
that, or the fumes from the large open vats of alcohol had gone straight
to your head. ;-)

Yes you can be certain of that. If ever I encounter large open vats of
alcohol it will certainly go to my head. Sadly I know of no such vats
at this time.

Martin Wilson said:

Ok fly then. Vinegar=output from fly's backside.

Do flies really [censored] from their backsides? Would it be possible to have
flies [censored] directly onto my chain to clean it?

On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 08:00:56 GMT, MSeries <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Jeremy Collins said:

Hi all,
I bought some Halfords citrus degreaser recently, and was pleasantly
surprised at how well it works. But at 10 quid a litre, I can't help
feeling that someone somewhere is having a chuckle at my expense ;-)
Has anyone got a recipe for a DIY version? There can't be that
much to it...
Cheers,
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If you want something cheaper to clean you chain with try Diesel, 79.5p
per litre and very readily available.

20ish pence a litre if you get red diesel.

Colin