distance / speed ratio

no spam for me said:

I have been keeping a log of my rides and other than my average speed to
come up how good one ride is over an other, is there a better mathmatic
formula to come up some ratio that can be used to measure progress?

Sometimes I count freds per distance unit. In my case the minimum is
always 1.

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I have been keeping a log of my rides and other than my average speed to
come up how good one ride is over an other, is there a better mathmatic
formula to come up some ratio that can be used to measure progress?

Thanks

KDW

I like to use Rate of Climb (i.e., feet per hour of climbing), or Average
Heart Rate, Average Watts, or Calories per Hour, or Time in Heart Rate Zone,
or Number of Cool Things Seen per Hour, etc.

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no spam for me said:

I have been keeping a log of my rides and other than my average speed to
come up how good one ride is over an other, is there a better mathmatic
formula to come up some ratio that can be used to measure progress?

Robert Chung said:

Sometimes I count freds per distance unit. In my case the minimum is
always 1.

Is that a linear or logarithmic unit ?

Donald Munro said:

Is that a linear or logarithmic unit ?

If I measured in unit units distances would vary with temperature.

Driving past those plate glass windows again?

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Quoted message said:

I have been keeping a log of my rides and other than my average speed to
come up how good one ride is over an other, is there a better mathmatic
formula to come up some ratio that can be used to measure progress?

Thanks

KDW

Aside from powermeters, which would be your best bet, heart rate (HR) is a
good measure. HR can vary some based on environmental conditions and your
state of rest, etc., but after you gain experience, it can be a valuable
feedback tool.

You'll see over time as you get fitter that you can maintain the same speeds
at lower HRs. One ad-hoc measure I use is if I can climb decent hills
comfortably in the low-aerobic HR zone (<70%), I know my base fitness is
there. You can also track average HR over your whole ride, and compare it to
your speed. There should be aggregate correlation, and improvement over
time, though it will vary of course with heat and wind, etc.

-Tony

Donald Munro said:

Is that a linear or logarithmic unit ?

*** It's an insecure [censored] unit.

KA
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no spam for me said:

I have been keeping a log of my rides and other than my average speed to
come up how good one ride is over an other, is there a better mathmatic
formula to come up some ratio that can be used to measure progress?

*** Logs are crucial to measuring progress but if you're
not measuring the right things, they're useless. Do you
look at average heart rate, distance, route and all that?
Conditions affect speed and distance as do many other
factors.

My understanding is that a power meter is the best way
to measure what you expend during your ride. Google
that and SRM.

www.cambiatta.com has something interesting, too.

At the end of the day, for the vast majority
of cyclists who ride and race for fun, all that
counts is that you ride till you can't ride anymore
and then take the proper recovery time. Eat right,
hydrate correctly and get as much time in the
saddle as possible.

Google is your friend. Search for terms like
"improving cycling performance" and so on.

KA
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www.nootrope.net

no spam for me said:

I have been keeping a log of my rides and other than my average speed to
come up how good one ride is over an other, is there a better mathmatic
formula to come up some ratio that can be used to measure progress?

*** Logs are crucial to measuring progress but if you're
not measuring the right things, they're useless. Do you
look at average heart rate, distance, route and all that?
Conditions affect speed and distance as do many other
factors.

My understanding is that a power meter is the best way
to measure what you expend during your ride. Google
that and SRM.

www.cambiatta.com has something interesting, too.

At the end of the day, for the vast majority
of cyclists who ride and race for fun, all that
counts is that you ride till you can't ride anymore
and then take the proper recovery time. Eat right,
hydrate correctly and get as much time in the
saddle as possible.

Google is your friend. Search for terms like
"improving cycling performance" and so on.

KA
---
www.nootrope.net

Donald Munro said:

Quoted message said:

no spam for me said:

I have been keeping a log of my rides and other than my average speed to
come up how good one ride is over an other, is there a better mathmatic
formula to come up some ratio that can be used to measure progress?

Robert Chung said:

Sometimes I count freds per distance unit. In my case the minimum is
always 1.

Is that a linear or logarithmic unit ?

If the ratio is represented as a log, then the ratio must be unitless
(well, sort of). For example, the ubiquitous "dB" is a ratio, always
unitless, and is a logarithm. Can't do freds/distance as a logarithm.

Freds/Ref_Fred could be logar'd. Who is the reference Fred? Remember,
numbers are facts.

Incidentally, a low ranked amateur racer making a *log* of their riding
has a very high Fredliness factor. So it would strangely be a log of a
log.

Robert Chung said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Sometimes I count freds per distance unit. In my case the minimum is
always 1.

Donald Munro said:

Quoted message said:

Is that a linear or logarithmic unit ?

gwhite said:

If the ratio is represented as a log, then the ratio must be unitless
(well, sort of). For example, the ubiquitous "dB" is a ratio, always
unitless, and is a logarithm. Can't do freds/distance as a logarithm.

With July coming up is rather important to refine the rbr fred measurement
techniques. Perhaps the final fred unit should be called a white or a
pomeranian.

Freds/Ref_Fred could be logar'd. Who is the reference Fred?
I imagine the reference fred would include:
fat belly and jelly-quads.
US Postal (retro fred) or Discovery color Trek
US Postal (retro fred) or Discovery jersey
Giro helmet

Donald Munro said:

Quoted message said:

Is that a linear or logarithmic unit ?

nootrope said:

*** It's an insecure [censored] unit.

It would have to be an exponential unit to measure bruce's favourite
picture.

Thanks serious answers...as for the other less then serious answers....your
sense of wit is a percept beyond a furlong....don't quit your day job!

Looks like an investment in a more complex 'puter may be in my
future.....for the mean time, I will stick to my made up index..Thanks and I
will do the google

KDW

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Quoted message said:

I have been keeping a log of my rides and other than my average speed to
come up how good one ride is over an other, is there a better mathmatic
formula to come up some ratio that can be used to measure progress?

Thanks

KDW