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  1. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Actually, a few years ago, Electrolux (of Belgium; not
    the vacuum-cleaner Electrolux) bought White Consolidated
    Industries, Frigidaire's parent company. They are just
    starting to put their own name on appliances, like the
    "Frigidaire by Electrolux" that you mention.

    Going way back, Frigidaire was part of General Motors. White
    was a separate company and merged with Westinghouse
    appliance division, later White Westinghouse. Later they
    became White Consolidated Industries, later just WCI. . They
    also bought out Edison Electric. The Edison plant was the
    facility for air conditioners. They made them under assorted
    names, Frigidaire, Philco, Sears, Crosley, and a few others
    that escape me now. They reduced the number of name brands
    after a survey said consumers related the Frigidaire name
    with quality. Amazing how long a good reputation can linger
    even when they start to make [censored].

    Electrolux bought them about 6 or 8 years ago. Much of
    their manufacturing moved off shore. Ed

  2. sf said:

    On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 12:57:23 GMT, [email hidden]

    (Curly Sue) said:
    Quoted message said:

    As for the original question, I have an Asko (Swedish,
    you betcha) which does a very good job using less water
    than I would, washing by hand.

    I have a Kenmore and also noticed a significant drop
    in my water usage compared to hand-washing when I
    bought it.

    Don't know about you, but I break a lot more glasses hand
    washing (they're slippery little devils) than I do using
    the dishwasher (zero).

    🙂

    Oh yeah! It was for that very reason I banished glass
    glasses from my kitchen a long time ago! (except for
    wine glasses).

    Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

  3. Quoted message said:

    My brother bought a Bosch dishwasher a couple years ago and
    he has been thoroughly satisfied with it. It has worked
    reliably and the sound level is exceptionally low. I can't
    give you the model but it sold for around $500.

    Just based on the overall good experience I have
    personally had with GE appliances, I would probably lean
    toward GE. In purchasing appliances, I am a firm believer
    in buying a mid-level model that is one of the top sellers
    in the manufacturers line. Manufacturers generally pay the
    most attention to their top selling models. High volume
    means they have greater experience in producing such
    products than lesser selling items. And finally, there is
    assurance that parts and service will be readily available
    in the future.

    I wouldn't rely on the advice you received on mechanical
    vs. electronic controls. That may have been more credible
    with much earlier generations of electronic controls. But
    it isn't really an issue now. Steam could just as surely
    corrode mechanical controls as electronic controls if they
    were not adequately protected. But that would more likely
    result from poor design than any inherent weakness in the
    controls.

    Recently had a long chat with a very experienced, straight
    shooting appliance repairman who was fixing the $%$#
    icemaker on my GE Gallery fridge...his take was that the
    current best choice for appliances ( based on his recent
    experience with a wide variety of manufacturers & their
    products), was Whirlpool. My 5 year old GE dishwasher is ok,
    but no great shakes. Mr. Repairman said I've been lucky - he
    gets calls on more late model GE dishwashers than any of the
    other makes. NT

  4. Quoted message said:

    My Maytag is 3-4 years old and I love it. It has touchpad
    controls. - -Barb

    A year ago I replaced an old Hobart built Insinkrater with a
    new Maytag (got the one with stainless interior), has touch
    pads... I love mine too (yes, I reformed, I no longer do
    dishes by hand). And I don't really care that it has more
    settings than I'll ever use... I don't watch all the TV
    channels either, in fact out of the 300+ provided by my
    cable I essentially watch but 2. Heck, until I moved a year
    ago I hadn't changed the station on my car radio since
    1991... I found a station that isn't hillybilly or churchy,
    and haven't changed that either.

    ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move
    UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
    *********
    "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without
    tribulation." Sheldon ````````````

  5. [email hidden] (NTANTIQUES) wrote in
    :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    My brother bought a Bosch dishwasher a couple years ago
    and he has been thoroughly satisfied with it. It has
    worked reliably and the sound level is exceptionally low.
    I can't give you the model but it sold for around $500.

    Just based on the overall good experience I have
    personally had with GE appliances, I would probably lean
    toward GE. In purchasing appliances, I am a firm believer
    in buying a mid-level model that is one of the top sellers
    in the manufacturers line. Manufacturers generally pay the
    most attention to their top selling models. High volume
    means they have greater experience in producing such
    products than lesser selling items. And finally, there is
    assurance that parts and service will be readily available
    in the future.

    I wouldn't rely on the advice you received on mechanical
    vs. electronic controls. That may have been more credible
    with much earlier generations of electronic controls. But
    it isn't really an issue now. Steam could just as surely
    corrode mechanical controls as electronic controls if they
    were not adequately protected. But that would more likely
    result from poor design than any inherent weakness in the
    controls.

    Recently had a long chat with a very experienced, straight
    shooting appliance repairman who was fixing the $%$#
    icemaker on my GE Gallery fridge...his take was that the
    current best choice for appliances ( based on his recent
    experience with a wide variety of manufacturers & their
    products), was Whirlpool. My 5 year old GE dishwasher is
    ok, but no great shakes. Mr. Repairman said I've been
    lucky - he gets calls on more late model GE dishwashers
    than any of the other makes. NT

    I've had reasonably good luck with GE refrigerators and
    electric ranges. However, every GE dishwasher I've ever used
    over the years has leaked.

    --
    Wayne in Phoenix

    If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.

  6. In article <[email hidden]>, NTANTIQUES

    Quoted message said:

    Recently had a long chat with a very experienced, straight
    shooting appliance repairman who was fixing the $%$#
    icemaker on my GE Gallery fridge...his take was that the
    current best choice for appliances ( based on his recent
    experience with a wide variety of manufacturers & their
    products), was Whirlpool. My 5 year old GE dishwasher is
    ok, but no great shakes. Mr. Repairman said I've been
    lucky - he gets calls on more late model GE dishwashers
    than any of the other makes. NT

    I'm sure your repairman is a straight shooter, but he may be
    getting far more calls on GE model dishwashers because there
    are far more GEs out there than other brands. Fact is every
    generation of appliance seems to be less durable than the
    former. One reason is that every generation is more
    complicated; another is that companies find cheaper ways of
    making the same product at nearly the same price. The paper-
    thin metal of my current electric range may next generation
    actually be paper.

  7. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (NTANTIQUES) said:

    Mr.Repairman said I've been lucky - he gets calls on more
    late model GE dishwashers than any of the other makes.

    Heh. When I had another appliance installed in my new-to-me
    house, the technician (who didn't work for an appliance
    dealer) took one look at the recent TOL GE dishwasher that
    was present and said "You still got that thing? Here's some
    advice. If you ever come into the kitchen and see a puddle
    in front of that thing, don't bother calling a repairman.
    Just buy yourself a new dishwasher."

    I didn't wait for the puddle. I'm not sorry, either.

    sd

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Tony P. said:

    I've known for some time that GE is pretty much out of the
    business of actually manufacturing consumer items. Instead
    they license the name to different manufacturers. My GE
    television was actually made by Thompson.

    GE still makes a fair number of appliances: ranges, most of
    their refrigerators, top-load washers, dryers, dishwashers,
    ... But, yes, in the consumer-goods area, they probably
    rebadge as much as they actually manufacture.

    sd

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Edwin Pawlowski said:

    They reduced the number of name brands after a survey said
    consumers related the Frigidaire name with quality.
    Amazing how long a good reputation can linger even when
    they start to make [censored].

    Actually, when Frigidaire was part of WCI, I wouldn't touch
    their stuff with a pole. It was cheap and acted like it.
    However, Electrolux has a much better reputation than that,
    and they've been turning Frigidaire around. Aside from the
    bottom-of-the-line stuff (which is suspect even if GE or
    Maytag makes it), the current product line is pretty decent.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Electrolux bought them about 6 or 8 years ago. Much of
    their manufacturing


    moved off shore.

    Frigidaire, BTW, has eleven manufacturing plants in the U.S.

    sd

  10. "sd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:sd55117-

    Quoted message said:


    Actually, when Frigidaire was part of WCI, I wouldn't
    touch their stuff with a pole. It was cheap and acted like
    it. However, Electrolux has a much better reputation than
    that, and they've been turning Frigidaire around.

    WCI is now owned by Electrolux as is the Frigidaire brand
    name. As a supplier to one of their plants, I know what some
    of the components were and what the priorities were. Price
    is a HUGE factor in thier buying decision. They do have good
    quality standards for what they buy and expect from their
    suppliers. Some lines are better than others. They have to
    compete on price for the low end stuff so they will do
    whatever is necessary to meet a price point. Blame us for
    that as we'll buy the appliance that is $5 cheaper at Wal
    Mart and throw it away in a year when it breaks. Rare is
    ther person that actually cares that smething will last for
    a decade. A $5 difference in the whoseale proce means tens
    of thousands of units sold to the big chains. Meet the
    competition or get out. As a supplier we were give that
    ultimatum -25%. We declined.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Electrolux bought them about 6 or 8 years ago. Much of
    their


    manufacturing

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    moved off shore.

    Frigidaire, BTW, has eleven manufacturing plants in
    the U.S.

    Plus one or two in Canada, one in Mexico.

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