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  1. Original post
    Neil Brooks
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    Well this sucks.
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    DENVER - The owner of The Dish Network said Thursday it pulled the
    Outdoor Life Network from its system after the cable channel failed to
    provide NHL games to the nation's second-largest satellite television
    provider.

    EchoStar Communications Corp. spokesman Marc Lumpkin said the network
    did not show games on Oct. 10-11 and on Monday and Tuesday as
    advertised. "We were not given advance notice that they would not show
    the programming," he said.

    Although best known for broadcasting the Tour de France and cyclist
    Lance Armstrong, OLN this fall took over broadcasting National Hockey
    League games on cable from ESPN, a unit of The Walt Disney Co.

    "We are surprised and disappointed that Dish has unilaterally chosen
    to stop providing OLN to its customers, and denied fans the
    opportunity to watch sports coverage on OLN," spokeswoman Amy Phillips
    said.

    The contract dispute between EchoStar and OLN revolves around OLN's
    placement in a higher-priced channel package by Dish Network, which is
    distributed to fewer viewers.

    OLN, owned by cable giant Comcast Corp., set a requirement that the
    channel must be seen by 40 percent of a cable or satellite TV system's
    viewers in order for it to broadcast the NHL games. It said the Dish
    Network has failed to meet that requirement.

    Lumpkin declined to comment on the specifics of the dispute.

    EchoStar would have to move the channel from its top package to a
    lower-cost package that may have fewer channels but more viewers. That
    would raise the fees Dish Network viewers pay.

    "We work hard to provide choice for customers and to keep prices low,"
    Eric Sahl, an EchoStar senior vice president, said in a statement.
    "Most of our customers have made the decision they do not want to pay
    the additional cost of watching the channel."

    EchoStar hasn't been afraid to take on networks before. In March 2004,
    it pulled Viacom Inc. programming — including MTV, the Comedy Channel
    and Nickelodeon — from the Dish Network for two days until an
    agreement was struck on a long-term contract.

    Based in suburban Englewood, EchoStar's Dish Network has about 11.4
    million customers
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    Can we find some company in the US that carries Eurosport? I mean there has
    to be more cycling fans that are wanting to watch races other than the Tour
    de France, and an hour here and there of the other major tours and races.

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    If they show NHL games, would that not be the INDOOR Life Network?

    This is dumber than the stupid pissing contest between Cablevision and
    the New York Yankees a few years ago.

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  4. John Forrest Tomlinson
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    Can we find some company in the US that carries Eurosport?

    Are you actually going to do something other than just talk in
    cyberspace?

    JT

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  5. Fred Marx
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    according to cyclingnews.com something called WCTV is going to carry UCI
    events next year. First question, who the **^%$ are they? Second where
    the (*&^ are they?... OLN bah who cares?

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  6. Jason Spaceman
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    On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:57:43 -0600, Fred Marx <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    according to cyclingnews.com something called WCTV is going to carry UCI
    events next year. First question, who the **^%$ are they? Second where
    the (*&^ are they?... OLN bah who cares?

    I think you mean WCSN -->
    http://www.wcsn.com/releases/release.jsp?ymd=20051018&content_id=0001

    J. Spaceman

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    Yes, I am. I contacted Dish about it, and got the same line they gave in
    their website. They told me that OLN wants too many subscribers, yada yada.
    They went on about how I could watch hockey. I had specifically mentioned
    Eurosport and cycling, and they give me hockey. If I want hockey, I'll move
    somewhere cold. I then checked the Eurosport website and found nothing about
    coverage in the US. I may check into the WCSN info posted later in this
    forum.

    If you have anything constructive to say, I'm certainly open to ideas.

    "John Forrest Tomlinson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Can we find some company in the US that carries Eurosport?

    Are you actually going to do something other than just talk in
    cyberspace?

    JT

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  8. John Forrest Tomlinson
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    Yes, I am. I contacted Dish about it, and got the same line they gave in
    their website. They told me that OLN wants too many subscribers, yada yada.
    They went on about how I could watch hockey. I had specifically mentioned
    Eurosport and cycling, and they give me hockey. If I want hockey, I'll move
    somewhere cold. I then checked the Eurosport website and found nothing about
    coverage in the US. I may check into the WCSN info posted later in this
    forum.

    If you have anything constructive to say, I'm certainly open to ideas.

    You could provide contact info for people who care to follow your
    example.

    JT

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    Fred Marx said:

    according to cyclingnews.com something called WCTV is going to carry UCI
    events next year. First question, who the **^%$ are they? Second where
    the (*&^ are they?... OLN bah who cares?

    I think In the US cycling is very much a fringe/minority sport but as a
    recreational pastime it still has a large number of participants. Most
    of whom are totally ignorant to the whole world of cycle sport. The
    more people who watch cycleracing on whichever channel the more we will
    get as market forces will dictate what sport the broadcasters push out
    'cause the viewing figures will bring in advertisers ultimatly. So tell
    your clubmates to find and watch cycling wherever it is.

    Don't know who WCTV are but don't forget that http://cycling.tv have
    had several Pro Tour races this year and I think, plan to have many
    more next year. I just found Zuri Metzgate on there yesterday, I posted
    else where on the newsgroup to that effect.

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  10. Archived post
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    If you're a susbcriber, go to http://www.dishnetwork.com/

    and log in. Then hit the "contact us" section and send them an e-mail. If
    you're not a subscriber, good luck geting through to them and being taken
    seriously.

    For Eurosport, go to
    http://www.eurosport.co.uk/

    for the English version.

    The whole idea is to be able to watch the races on TV, even if they are
    taped by me a watched later in the day. I don't have the option of sitting
    and watching on the computer during work. That's why I'd like to see
    Eurosport get picked up by someone in the States, who would then provide
    that service to my area (Central Texas). It's always nice to be able to
    watch the races with my wife, often during dinner, which is our primary time
    together.

    "John Forrest Tomlinson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Yes, I am. I contacted Dish about it, and got the same line they gave in
    their website. They told me that OLN wants too many subscribers, yada
    yada.
    They went on about how I could watch hockey. I had specifically mentioned
    Eurosport and cycling, and they give me hockey. If I want hockey, I'll
    move
    somewhere cold. I then checked the Eurosport website and found nothing
    about
    coverage in the US. I may check into the WCSN info posted later in this
    forum.

    If you have anything constructive to say, I'm certainly open to ideas.

    You could provide contact info for people who care to follow your
    example.

    JT

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  11. Steven L. Sheffield
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    I think you'll need to lobby ESPN as well.

    If I recall correctly, ESPN is a part owner/investor in Eurosport, and one
    of the terms of the deal is that Eurosport would not expand their footprint
    to the United States.

    On 10/23/2005 11:01 AM, in article
    [email hidden], "[email hidden]"

    Quoted message said:

    If you're a susbcriber, go to http://www.dishnetwork.com/

    and log in. Then hit the "contact us" section and send them an e-mail. If
    you're not a subscriber, good luck geting through to them and being taken
    seriously.

    For Eurosport, go to
    http://www.eurosport.co.uk/

    for the English version.

    The whole idea is to be able to watch the races on TV, even if they are
    taped by me a watched later in the day. I don't have the option of sitting
    and watching on the computer during work. That's why I'd like to see
    Eurosport get picked up by someone in the States, who would then provide
    that service to my area (Central Texas). It's always nice to be able to
    watch the races with my wife, often during dinner, which is our primary time
    together.

    "John Forrest Tomlinson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Yes, I am. I contacted Dish about it, and got the same line they gave in
    their website. They told me that OLN wants too many subscribers, yada
    yada.
    They went on about how I could watch hockey. I had specifically mentioned
    Eurosport and cycling, and they give me hockey. If I want hockey, I'll
    move
    somewhere cold. I then checked the Eurosport website and found nothing
    about
    coverage in the US. I may check into the WCSN info posted later in this
    forum.

    If you have anything constructive to say, I'm certainly open to ideas.

    You could provide contact info for people who care to follow your
    example.

    JT

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