Discussion with "RB"

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From: "RB" <[email hidden]> Sent: Tuesday, March
16, 2004 5:03 AM Subject: Re: to Jan

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"RB" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> "Kim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > > Jan Drew says it is ALWAYS wrong to belittle. I
> > > guess her rules

get a lot of relaxing:-)))))

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> > She seems to have this obsession that everyone is
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we can call it "Secondary Functional Delusional
Liarsitosis." It's got to be a miserable way to live.

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preaches.

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> Are you a Jew? Are you ashamed?

What you are doing, RB, following someone around and
asking such personal questions, particularly when this
is a fairly new poster, is harrassment (not to mention
weird and creepy). It discredits

anything

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of value you might have to say, and will likely end
you in everyone's killfile. Is that where you want
to be?

I had not been reading anything you had posted, due to
your having acted like in similar ways to what you are
doing here. Now, when I

went

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back through one thread, I found that one or two of
your posts were or could have been quite helpful. But
they are lost and/or discredited, due to this present
kind of troll-like boorish behaviour.

For someone to come into a group and almost immediately
start accusing people of anti-Semitism I think it's only
proper they tell us whether they are Jews or not.

1. No one should _ever_ be required to reveal personal
details such as>

religion or background, on a 'Net discussion group!

Well tell me Toby, is this newsgroup the place to be more
concerned about Nazi Christians? Is that offensive enough
for you!??? Is this a place to always be reminding everybody
that you're a Jew? Is this a place to be accusing people of
being anti-Semites? Is this newsgroup a place where one
should have to continually defend oneself against charges of
anti-Semitism that ARE lies. If they are not lies then post
your proof of it. Is this a newsgroup where anti alts should
come on here and wreak havoc everywhere in every way and
then have you give them comfort and solace while denigrating
and casting aspersions upon those for whom the group was
manifested to begin with and whom try to call the anti alts
on here to task for their nefarious insulting activities?

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2. Not what happened.

It IS what happened.

She arrived after I did, so I saw it. She was

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presented with certain statements and called them for what
they are

I saw it too. Statements from Rich of course!???

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When she first arrived she made an innocent remark about
how she felt, to>

effect that she would like to stay out of the personal stuff
that's going> down.

That didn't last very long did it? Turns out not to have
been so innocent after all?

She was followed around and accused of lying, due
solely to that

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statement, which was a mere statement of wish or
intention. She was>

harrassed for that.

I didn't follow her around but if I met her in passing I
might have responded to her posts. Would you specify who
followed her around? As for her being accused of lying I
guess that must be because she did and does.

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At that time it was unknown whether she was more "alt" or
skeptical.

Well I guess there's no doubt in your mind now is there?
Like the rest of the anti alts here she has one or two minor
alt therapies so as to give her an excuse to be here and
legitimise her bashing, ridiculing and trashing every other
alt therapy and/or practitioner as the rest of them do.

I got> the impression that had she turned out to be a female
alt, _and_ had
she> not been prepared to ..co-operate with the established
she> mha alt
hierarchy,> she would have been harrassed until she
was run off.

You got the wrong impression. Do you see us "harassing" Anth
or Carole or anybody else? Do you see any other cases of
harassment on this board? These of course seem to be okay in
your eyes.

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When this goes on day after day as follows, such as --
you're a

loathsome> > despicable anti-Semite,you're a liar,

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There is a list posted elsewhere of "Jews, atheists, and
liars"... A list comprised of names which appear to be
most of the regualar mha>

posters.> The list includes people who have actually stated
they are neither of the> first two, and I doubt there is any
valid reason to think that all of the> others would fit into
one or other of the two designated categories.

What are you saying here? Imo a very bad sentence.

And> even if they were all shown to be so, it is very
And> strange to see all
the> names placed on such a list, and all called "liars".

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???? again.

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So obviously Kim is a Jew manifested by Rich to aid and
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stalking of Jan(talk about me stalking Kim!!!)

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Your choice of word: not mine.

That's my belief.

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I don't begin to follow the above 'reasoning', if anyone
could call it that. And I do not wish to do so. Imo it
belongs in the realm of needed>

professional counselling.

I'll take a pass on your advice.

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but Kim wishes to make it look like> > she is just a non
Jew sincerely

seeking alt answers just so as her> > pre-ordained rage,
anger and pseudo outrage against their innocent target> >
would be all the more believable than if she were an
admitted Jew! Thus> > she doesn't want to let anybody know
that she is a Jew.

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That is the most extraordinarily convoluted and paranoid
thinking. Unless there was something about Kim's first
posts that I missed entirely.

Yes Toby....what you missed is that she lied from the
beginning about her reason for being on this newsgroup.
It's not being paranoid, it's being realistic.

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Also I hope you don't think that believing that someone
or some group

is> > led by $#t#n is evidence of anti-Semitism?

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When that group is a 'Net discussion group, it is
evidence of

psychological> ill-health. I believe, serious psychological
psychological> ill-health.

Is it evidence of anti-Semitism as many repeat and repeat
and repeat over and over and over again and again and again?
Would you mind answering that? You've had several chances to
do so in other threads but have not yet decided to do so!
Now I address you specifically..... what is evidence of anti-
Semitism or more properly anti-Judaism and do you consider
anybody here to be truly anti-Semitic or anti-Judaical?

further, do you think all Christians are psychologically
ill? I'd like it if you expounded more upon your reasons for
thinking people who believe in the tenets of Christianity
are psychologically ill? I don't suppose you're a Christian
yourself are you?

On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 21:23:44 -0330, "RB" <[email hidden]>

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Well tell me Toby, is this newsgroup the place to be more
concerned about Nazi Christians?

Nazi Christians, Nazi Jews, Nazi Muslims, Nazi atheists,
Nazi agnostics, Nazi Buddhists, Nazi Brights, Nazi Mormons.
We need to be concerned about ALL Nazi's regardless of their
religious affiliation.

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Is that offensive enough for you!???

Nazi is as offensive as it gets.

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Is this a place to always be reminding everybody that
you're a Jew?

Rb is the one who keeps asking if someone is a Jew. Who the
hell is he kidding??

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Is this a place to be accusing people of being anti-
Semites?

If they are anti-semites and bring up anti-Jewish propaganda
then I say yes. The only reason that people are accused of
this bigotry is because they make a point of bashing Jews.
It is as simple as that.

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Is this newsgroup a place where one should have to
continually defend oneself against charges of anti-
Semitism that ARE lies.

Strawman. They are not lies. They are the truth proved by
poster's own words.

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If they are not lies then post your proof of it.

Gladly.

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Their are Jews here and there are atheists, (they are the
ones who have told the group) with the exception of IIena,
they have proven themselves to be liars, deceitful and
insulters.

Furthmore, I called Andrew Kingoff a Jew Boy when he posted
the stupid blasphemy of the 10 commandments here on the ng.

That's because most every atheist and jew here has INDEED
lied. They know it, yet they cover for each other.

The group here are mostly atheists and jews, (who falsely
believe they are enlightened) and need to have an argument
going, thinking they can boast their ego. They tell lies,
twist what is said, and IMHO are lead by Satan.

The truth is that most debunkers on MHA who LIE through
their tetth, do nothing but belittle, and are filled with
hate, are atheists or jews.

I repeat: The debubnker's here are atheist or jews.

No, they aren't right, they are greatly deceived as Eve was
when Satan debunked God's word. That was the start of
debunking. Then the jews Jesus's very own people tried to
debunk his words, and even debunked his miracles whch
happened right before their eyes.

Yes Jesus was a jew, his own people rejected him. They
debunked all his words and works, and now debunking and lies
are second nature to them. That is how Satan works.

Most of the debunkers are either atheists or Jews.

It seems the Jews here have taken over this ng, with their
vile false accusations and they are all filled with hate.

It seems to me the Jews here are trying to get even for the
holocaust. When noone here was in any way involved.

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Is this a newsgroup where anti alts should come on here and
wreak havoc everywhere in every way and then have you give
them comfort and solace while denigrating and casting
aspersions upon those for whom the group was manifested to
begin with and whom try to call the anti alts on here to
task for their nefarious insulting activities?

No. This is a place for skeptics to express skepticism
without being attacked as being Jews or atheists.

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She was followed around and accused of lying, due
solely to that

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statement, which was a mere statement of wish or
intention. She was>

harrassed for that.

Solely due to that statement. Wrong again. See above.

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Aloha,

Rich
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The best defense to logic is ignorance

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Well tell me Toby, is this newsgroup the place to be more
concerned about Nazi Christians? Is that offensive enough
for you!??? Is this a place to always be reminding
everybody that you're a Jew? Is this a place to be
accusing people of being anti-Semites? Is this newsgroup a
place where one should have to continually defend oneself
against charges of anti-Semitism that ARE lies. If they
are not lies then post your proof of it.

HERE IS YOUR PROOF You seem to have missed these. So once
again we see who the LIARS are:

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Their are Jews here and there are atheists, (they are the
ones who have told the group) with the exception of IIena,
they have proven themselves to be liars, deceitful and
insulters.

Furthmore, I called Andrew Kingoff a Jew Boy when he posted
the stupid blasphemy of the 10 commandments here on the ng.

That's because most every atheist and jew here has INDEED
lied. They know it, yet they cover for each other.

The group here are mostly atheists and jews, (who falsely
believe they are enlightened) and need to have an argument
going, thinking they can boast their ego. They tell lies,
twist what is said, and IMHO are lead by Satan.

The truth is that most debunkers on MHA who LIE through
their tetth, do nothing but belittle, and are filled with
hate, are atheists or jews.

I repeat: The debubnker's here are atheist or jews.

No, they aren't right, they are greatly deceived as Eve was
when Satan debunked God's word. That was the start of
debunking. Then the jews Jesus's very own people tried to
debunk his words, and even debunked his miracles whch
happened right before their eyes.

Yes Jesus was a jew, his own people rejected him. They
debunked all his words and works, and now debunking and lies
are second nature to them. That is how Satan works.

Most of the debunkers are either atheists or Jews.

It seems the Jews here have taken over this ng, with their
vile false accusations and they are all filled with hate.

It seems to me the Jews here are trying to get even for the
holocaust. When noone here was in any way.....
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She arrived after I did, so I saw it. She was

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presented with certain statements and called them for
what they are

I saw it too. Statements from Rich of course!???

Rich made no derogatory statements re' anyone's religion,
gender or nationality.

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When she first arrived she made an innocent remark about
how she felt,

to>

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effect that she would like to stay out of the personal
stuff that's going> down.

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That didn't last very long did it? Turns out not to have
been so innocent after all?

Outrageous!

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She was followed around and accused of lying, due solely
to that

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statement, which was a mere statement of wish or
intention. She was>

harrassed for that.

I didn't follow her around but if I met her in passing I
might have responded to her posts. Would you specify who
followed her around? As for her being accused of lying I
guess that must be because she did and does.

And the proof is.........

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At that time it was unknown whether she was more "alt"
or skeptical.

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Well I guess there's no doubt in your mind now is there?
Like the rest of the anti alts here she has one or two
minor alt therapies so as to give

her

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an excuse to be here and legitimise her bashing,
ridiculing and trashing every other alt therapy and/or
practitioner as the rest of them do.

Another delusional person who thinks everyone is against
them and their beliefs. This one uses Jan's same old worn
out, wring out, unimaginative, borish material.

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I got> the impression that had she turned out to be a
female alt, _and_

had

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she> not been prepared to ..co-operate with the
she> established mha alt
hierarchy,> she would have been harrassed until she was
run off.

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You got the wrong impression. Do you see us "harassing"
Anth or Carole or anybody else? Do you see any other cases
of harassment on this board?

These

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of course seem to be okay in your eyes.

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When this goes on day after day as follows, such as --
you're a

loathsome> > despicable anti-Semite,you're a liar,

She is all those things and cannot deny her past
words/posts. Why should I stand by and allow such insulting
hate to go unchallenged?
--
Kim Please note, I don't wish to get involved in any
personal conflicts between the posters here. I'm simply
looking for answers.
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Subject: Discussion with "RB"
From: [email hidden]
Date: 3/15/2004 1:16 PM Pacific Standard Time
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From: "RB" <[email hidden]> Sent: Tuesday, March 16,
2004 5:03 AM Subject: Re: to Jan

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"RB" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> "Kim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > > Jan Drew says it is ALWAYS wrong to belittle. I
> > > guess her rules

get a lot of relaxing:-)))))

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> > She seems to have this obsession that everyone is a
> > liar. Perhaps

we can call it "Secondary Functional Delusional
Liarsitosis." It's got to be a miserable way to live.

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> > ¤ <--- it's caused by this *GASP* fat, round,
> > parasite! ¥ <--- this parasite causes one to not
> > practice what one preaches.
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> Are you a Jew? Are you ashamed?

What you are doing, RB, following someone around and
asking such personal questions, particularly when this
is a fairly new poster, is harrassment (not to mention
weird and creepy). It discredits anything of value you
might have to say, and will likely end you in
everyone's killfile. Is that where you want to be?

I had not been reading anything you had posted, due to
your having acted like in similar ways to what you are
doing here. Now, when I went back through one thread, I
found that one or two of your posts were or could have
been quite helpful. But they are lost and/or
discredited, due to this present kind of troll-like
boorish behaviour.

For someone to come into a group and almost immediately
start accusing people of anti-Semitism I think it's only
proper they tell us whether they are Jews or not.

1. No one should _ever_ be required to reveal personal
details such as religion or background, on a 'Net
discussion group!

2. Not what happened. She arrived after I did, so I saw it.
She was presented with certain statements and called
them for what they are.

When she first arrived she made an innocent remark about
how she felt, to effect that she would like to stay out of
the personal stuff that's going down

She made that remark to me AFTER she has already agreed
and thanked Rich and Andrew. It was made because she
didn't want to read the despicable posting history that
showed a pattern.

Innocent?????

Not even.

Straight out of the mouth of Peter Bowditch

From: Kim ([email hidden]) Subject: Re: Dr. Sandra
Cabot Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Date: 2004-03-04
21:19:06 PST

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They are all jealous and have to discredit her because she
is a top medical person turned to the real medical truth
method. This blows away their credibility of arguments.

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Excuse me, but if the stated University doesn't give such a
degree, she is lying. If she is lying about her degree what
else may she be lying about?

Kim

Less than 2 days later:

From: Kim ([email hidden]) Subject: Re: It seems like
the old gang are still as big as liars as ever. View:
Complete Thread (46 articles) Original Format Newsgroups:
misc.health.alternative Date: 2004-03-06 21:30:37 PST

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Good question. For the most part if you substitute the
word "anxiety" for toxin or parasite you will have a clue.

You see alternative medicine increases the anxiety of the
somatically hypervigilant by telling people that they are
full of toxins and parasites and that they have just the
remedy for them. Of course the reality is that there *are*
toxins and parasites out there. What the somatically
hypervigilant don't realize is that just because these
things exist, that the remedies offered may actually do
nothing other than relieve their anxiety and that they may
not be infested with parasites or poisoned by toxins.

To the extent that the "remedy" can reduce the anxiety it
will effectively make the person feel better. Just look at
our own Jan Drew for an example. She read about parasites
in a Hulda Clark book and immediately thought she was
infested with them. Her health deteriorated until she took
the parasite cleanse and then immediately she felt better.

Of course this improvement in health only lasted a few
weeks since Jan made the mistake of reading another Hulda
Clark book and became convinced that she was poisoned by
mercury from amalgams. Jan thought she was dying from
mercury poisoning having severe pain in her feet. Then
within hours of having some amalgams removed she felt
better than she had in TWO YEARS!!!!!!

And Jan admitted that the *reason" she felt better than
she had in two years was RELIEF and had NOTHING to do with
the mercury coming out of her system.

And yet Jan Drew continues to assert that she almost died
of mercury poisoning and removing the amalgams saved her
life. I think Jan realizes now that she did not have
mercury poisoning but her narcissism will not allow her
to admit this. She would rather continue to lie and
deceive others and she does every time she again claims
she died of mercury poisoning.

Note: If you respond to this post Jan will use the
opportunity to attack me personally and not address
any of the issues I raise. Just watch.

Aloha,

Rich

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I understand. Thanks so much for this information.

Kim

That was a dead give away.

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She was followed around and accused of lying, due solely to
that statement, which was a mere statement of wish or
intention. She was harrassed for that.

She did indeed lie.

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At that time it was unknown whether she was more "alt" or
skeptical. I got the impression that had she turned out to
be a female alt, _and_ had she not been prepared to ..co-
operate with the established mha alt hierarchy, she would
have been harrassed until she was run off.

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When this goes on day after day as follows, such as --
you're a loathsome despicable anti-Semite,you're a liar,

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There is a list posted elsewhere of "Jews, atheists, and
liars"... A list comprised of names which appear to be most
of the regualar mha posters.

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The list includes people who have actually stated they are
neither of the first two, and I doubt there is any valid
reason to think that all of the others would fit into one
or other of the two designated categories

The valid reason is shown in their posts.

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And even if they were all shown to be so, it is very
strange to see all the names placed on such a list, and
all called "liars". [snip]

The people who were called liars did indeed lie.

It is clear you don't know the games played here. Kim was
interested in MY history out of the lying mouth of Richard
H Jacobson.

She is a plant because Rich is sooooooooooooo desperate and
sooooooooooo sick, he can't stand it that he can't bring it
all up agsin so he can badger for another year or three.

You surely have noticed how Kim has cut loose with her motor
mouth responding to both Andrew and Rich.

She has become abusive in less than 2 weeks.

Jan

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Well tell me Toby, is this newsgroup the place to be
more concerned

about

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Nazi Christians? Is that offensive enough for you!??? Is
this a place to always be reminding everybody that
you're a Jew? Is this a place to be accusing people of
being anti-Semites? Is this newsgroup a place where

one

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should have to continually defend oneself against
charges of

anti-Semitism

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that ARE lies. If they are not lies then post your proof
of it.

HERE IS YOUR PROOF You seem to have missed these. So once
again we see who the LIARS are:

Is this all you and Rich have? Trumped up charges on Jan the
same as the charges against Jesus was trumped up. Watch out
Jan and Debbie or they will crucify us.

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<SNIPPED REPEATED LYING TRASH FROM TROLLS>

The only proof that was there is that Rich and Kim are 2
TROLLS

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Subject: Discussion with "RB" From:
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She is a plant because Rich is sooooooooooooo desperate
and sooooooooooo sick, he can't stand it that he can't
bring it all up agsin so he can badger for another year
or three.

Just like Jan......

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You surely have noticed how Kim has cut loose with her
motor mouth responding to both Andrew and Rich.

Just like Jan.......

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She has become abusive in less than 2 weeks.

Is Jan jealous that it took her longer than Kim to hone
her abuse?

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On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 21:23:44 -0330, "

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Well tell me Toby, is this newsgroup the place to be more
concerned about Nazi Christians?

Nazi Christians, Nazi Jews, Nazi Muslims, Nazi atheists,
Nazi agnostics, Nazi Buddhists, Nazi Brights, Nazi
Mormons. We need to be concerned about ALL Nazi's
regardless of their religious affiliation.

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Is that offensive enough for you!???

Nazi is as offensive as it gets.

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Is this a place to always be reminding everybody that
you're a Jew?

Rb is the one who keeps asking if someone is a Jew. Who
the hell is he kidding??

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Is this a place to be accusing people of being anti-
Semites?

If they are anti-semites and bring up anti-Jewish
propaganda then I say yes. The only reason that people are
accused of this bigotry is because they make a point of
bashing Jews. It is as simple as that.

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Is this newsgroup a place where one should have to
continually defend oneself against charges of

anti-Semitism

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that ARE lies.

Strawman. They are not lies. They are the truth proved by
poster's own words.

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If they are not lies then post your proof of it.

Gladly.

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Nothing left to prove anti-Semitism by anybody.

On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 01:35:30 -0330, "RB" <[email hidden]>

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On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 21:23:44 -0330, "

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Well tell me Toby, is this newsgroup the place to be
more concerned about Nazi Christians?

Nazi Christians, Nazi Jews, Nazi Muslims, Nazi atheists,
Nazi agnostics, Nazi Buddhists, Nazi Brights, Nazi
Mormons. We need to be concerned about ALL Nazi's
regardless of their religious affiliation.

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Is that offensive enough for you!???

Nazi is as offensive as it gets.

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Is this a place to always be reminding everybody that
you're a Jew?

Rb is the one who keeps asking if someone is a Jew. Who
the hell is he kidding??

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Is this a place to be accusing people of being anti-
Semites?

If they are anti-semites and bring up anti-Jewish
propaganda then I say yes. The only reason that people
are accused of this bigotry is because they make a point
of bashing Jews. It is as simple as that.

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Is this newsgroup a place where one should have to
continually defend oneself against charges of

anti-Semitism

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that ARE lies.

Strawman. They are not lies. They are the truth proved by
poster's own words.

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If they are not lies then post your proof of it.

Gladly.

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<SNIPPED REPEATED LYING REGURGITATIONS OF RICH>

Actually the regurgitation is from Jan Drew. Everything you
snipped came from the mouth of Nazi Girl Jan Drew. But I do
agree with you that all her statements are lies. Finally
some common ground.

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Nothing left to prove anti-Semitism by anybody.

You are correct since you deleted all the anti-semitic
statements. I will repost them. And every time you deny she
is anti-semitic I will repost the statements.

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Their are Jews here and there are atheists, (they are the
ones who have told the group) with the exception of IIena,
they have proven themselves to be liars, deceitful and
insulters.

Furthmore, I called Andrew Kingoff a Jew Boy when he posted
the stupid blasphemy of the 10 commandments here on the ng.

That's because most every atheist and jew here has INDEED
lied. They know it, yet they cover for each other.

The group here are mostly atheists and jews, (who falsely
believe they are enlightened) and need to have an argument
going, thinking they can boast their ego. They tell lies,
twist what is said, and IMHO are lead by Satan.

The truth is that most debunkers on MHA who LIE through
their tetth, do nothing but belittle, and are filled with
hate, are atheists or jews.

I repeat: The debubnker's here are atheist or jews.

No, they aren't right, they are greatly deceived as Eve was
when Satan debunked God's word. That was the start of
debunking. Then the jews Jesus's very own people tried to
debunk his words, and even debunked his miracles whch
happened right before their eyes.

Yes Jesus was a jew, his own people rejected him. They
debunked all his words and works, and now debunking and lies
are second nature to them. That is how Satan works.

Most of the debunkers are either atheists or Jews.

It seems the Jews here have taken over this ng, with their
vile false accusations and they are all filled with hate.

It seems to me the Jews here are trying to get even for the
holocaust. When noone here was in any way involved.

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>Well tell me Toby, is this newsgroup the place to be
>more concerned

about

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>Nazi Christians?

Nazi Christians, Nazi Jews, Nazi Muslims, Nazi
atheists, Nazi agnostics, Nazi Buddhists, Nazi Brights,
Nazi Mormons. We need to be concerned about ALL Nazi's
regardless of their religious affiliation.

> Is that offensive enough for you!???

Nazi is as offensive as it gets.

> Is this a place to always be reminding everybody that
> you're a Jew?

Rb is the one who keeps asking if someone is a Jew. Who
the hell is he kidding??

>Is this a place to be accusing people of being anti-
>Semites?

If they are anti-semites and bring up anti-Jewish
propaganda then I say yes. The only reason that people
are accused of this bigotry is because they make a
point of bashing Jews. It is as simple as that.

> Is this newsgroup a place where one should have to
> continually defend oneself against charges of

anti-Semitism

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>that ARE lies.

Strawman. They are not lies. They are the truth proved
by poster's own words.

>If they are not lies then post your proof of it.

Gladly.

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<SNIPPED REPEATED LYING REGURGITATIONS OF HERMAN GOEBEL'S>

Nothing left as there was nothing to convict anybody of anti-
Semitism anyways.