Discovery leader?

Keyser Sose said:

Who is the leader of DC now LA has retired? I heard George was in the frame
but have read nothing concrete?
Interested....

Looks like we'll find out on august 12th. Leaving it a bit late for this
year's TdF...

http://team.discovery.com/racetoreplace/about.html

JimP

--
Let's think the unthinkable, let's do the undoable, let's prepare to
grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after
all. - DNA

Jim Price said:

Keyser Sose said:

Who is the leader of DC now LA has retired? I heard George was in
the frame but have read nothing concrete?
Interested....

Looks like we'll find out on august 12th. Leaving it a bit late for
this year's TdF...

http://team.discovery.com/racetoreplace/about.html

JimP

IMO Depends on the race, between Paolo Savoldelli and George Hincapie,
with Tom Danielson being groomed for the future.

Jan

Jan said:

Jim Price said:

Keyser Sose said:

Who is the leader of DC now LA has retired? I heard George was in
the frame but have read nothing concrete?
Interested....

Looks like we'll find out on august 12th. Leaving it a bit late for
this year's TdF...

http://team.discovery.com/racetoreplace/about.html

IMO Depends on the race, between Paolo Savoldelli and George Hincapie,
with Tom Danielson being groomed for the future.

That would be no change then, given that's effectively what happened in
the events Lance didn't race last year. I wonder which one (if any) of
them got up on January 1st this year and started their TdF preparation.

JimP

--
Let's think the unthinkable, let's do the undoable, let's prepare to
grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after
all. - DNA

Jim Price said:

Jan said:

Jim Price said:

Keyser Sose wrote:
> Who is the leader of DC now LA has retired? I heard George was in
> the frame but have read nothing concrete?
> Interested....

Looks like we'll find out on august 12th. Leaving it a bit late for
this year's TdF...

http://team.discovery.com/racetoreplace/about.html

IMO Depends on the race, between Paolo Savoldelli and George
Hincapie, with Tom Danielson being groomed for the future.

That would be no change then, given that's effectively what happened
in the events Lance didn't race last year. I wonder which one (if
any) of them got up on January 1st this year and started their TdF
preparation.
JimP

Goerge is injured and imo is not a grand tour rider anyway. Savoldellis
target logically must be the Giro.
So that leaves Tom Danielson as leader for the TDF this year. and I'm sure
he's trained hard over the winter.
Jan

Jan said:

Jim Price said:

That would be no change then, given that's effectively what happened
in the events Lance didn't race last year. I wonder which one (if
any) of them got up on January 1st this year and started their TdF
preparation.
JimP

Goerge is injured and imo is not a grand tour rider anyway. Savoldellis
target logically must be the Giro.
So that leaves Tom Danielson as leader for the TDF this year. and I'm
sure he's trained hard over the winter.

Hmmm. Here:

http://tom-danielson.cyclingtoday.net/

it says:

"Competing in the three week Italian race will keep Danielson, a
28-year-old Coloradan, from participating in the Tour de France."

They may be just trying to keep pressure off the guy of course, or let
him have a go at the Giro, and Savoldelli lead the TdF.
It's not an easy one to call, and I shudder to think what Hinault or
Merckx would think of someone who ruled themselves out of the TdF just
because they entered the Giro.

JimP
--
Let's think the unthinkable, let's do the undoable, let's prepare to
grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after
all. - DNA

Jim Price said:

Jan said:

Jim Price said:

That would be no change then, given that's effectively what happened
in the events Lance didn't race last year. I wonder which one (if
any) of them got up on January 1st this year and started their TdF
preparation.
JimP

Goerge is injured and imo is not a grand tour rider anyway.
Savoldellis target logically must be the Giro.
So that leaves Tom Danielson as leader for the TDF this year. and
I'm sure he's trained hard over the winter.

Hmmm. Here:

http://tom-danielson.cyclingtoday.net/

it says:

"Competing in the three week Italian race will keep Danielson, a
28-year-old Coloradan, from participating in the Tour de France."

They may be just trying to keep pressure off the guy of course, or let
him have a go at the Giro, and Savoldelli lead the TdF.
It's not an easy one to call, and I shudder to think what Hinault or
Merckx would think of someone who ruled themselves out of the TdF just
because they entered the Giro.

JimP

So if Danielsons going for the Giro, then one can assume he'll ride the
Vuelta again..
So do you think George will be team leader in the TDF? ( if he's fit)

Jan

Keyser Sose said:

Who is the leader of DC now LA has retired? I heard George was in the frame
but have read nothing concrete?
Interested....
KS

I suspect it will differ depending upon the event.
With LA the focus was le Tour, but that no longer exists.
Hincapie is more a Classics rider and they lost Landis so I can't really see
the Tour within their grasp this year.

John B

John B said:

Keyser Sose said:

Who is the leader of DC now LA has retired? I heard George was in
the frame but have read nothing concrete?
Interested....
KS

I suspect it will differ depending upon the event.
With LA the focus was le Tour, but that no longer exists.
Hincapie is more a Classics rider and they lost Landis so I can't
really see the Tour within their grasp this year.

John B

Grand tour Team wise, I think CSC looks to be the strongest. Ivan Basso
will be one of the favourites for the TDF.
And I'm hoping Alejandro Valverde will be on the podium with him in Paris.

Jan

Jan said:

Jim Price said:

Hmmm. Here:

http://tom-danielson.cyclingtoday.net/

it says:

"Competing in the three week Italian race will keep Danielson, a
28-year-old Coloradan, from participating in the Tour de France."

They may be just trying to keep pressure off the guy of course, or let
him have a go at the Giro, and Savoldelli lead the TdF.
It's not an easy one to call, and I shudder to think what Hinault or
Merckx would think of someone who ruled themselves out of the TdF just
because they entered the Giro.

So if Danielsons going for the Giro, then one can assume he'll ride the
Vuelta again..

If he doesn't, you can assume DC have given up on his chance of being
the main man. I think they'd love to give him the chance, but he's got a
lot to prove this year (like winning a Giro or Vuelta) if that's going
to happen.

Quoted message said:

So do you think George will be team leader in the TDF? ( if he's fit)

I think he's going to lose 3 to 6 weeks after his operation, which is
not going to leave him enough time to get fit for leading a serious TdF
effort. I think it was the team's plan, but I can't see it happening
right now. It's a pity, as he would have a good chance as a fully fit DC
team leader, but what can he do between recovery and the TdF to prove
he's fit enough to lead?

JimP

--
Let's think the unthinkable, let's do the undoable, let's prepare to
grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after
all. - DNA

"Jan" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Jim Price said:

Keyser Sose said:

Who is the leader of DC now LA has retired? [...]

Looks like we'll find out on august 12th. [...]

IMO Depends on the race, between Paolo Savoldelli and George Hincapie,
with Tom Danielson being groomed for the future.

How about Azevedo?

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MJR/slef