Discovery Channel signs off

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-sp-cycle10aug10,1,3407791.story?coll=la-headlines-business

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/cycling/2007-08-10-discovery-shut-down_N.htm

They were about out of riders anyhow.

DR

Crescentius Vespasianus said:

Doping has killed cycling, now Levi can
get a real job.

Right. There will be no bike racing at all due to doping. Right.
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On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 06:42:52 -0700, Crescentius Vespasianus

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Doping has killed cycling, now Levi can
get a real job.

Right. There will be no bike racing at all due to doping. Right.
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Didn't you see Telekom, and Nordmilch and pull the plug earlier this
week? Oh, yeah they didn't.
Bill C

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http://www.latimes.com/business/la-sp-cycle10aug10,1,3407791.story?coll=la-headlines-business

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/cycling/2007-08-10-discovery-shut-down_N.htm

They were about out of riders anyhow.

This has to be the greatest news ever to most of the group here.

Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

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http://www.latimes.com/business/la-sp-cycle10aug10,1,3407791.story?co...

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http://www.usatoday.com/sports/cycling/2007-08-10-discovery-shut-down...

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They were about out of riders anyhow.

This has to be the greatest news ever to most of the group here.

It's Karma, Tom, it's Karma.

need more sun said:

Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

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http://www.latimes.com/business/la-sp-cycle10aug10,1,3407791.story?co...
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/cycling/2007-08-10-discovery-shut-down...
They were about out of riders anyhow.

This has to be the greatest news ever to most of the group here.

It's Karma, Tom, it's Karma.

I'll see your Karma, and raise you a schadenfreude.

DirtRoadie said:

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-sp-cycle10aug10,1,3407791.story?co...

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/cycling/2007-08-10-discovery-shut-down...

They were about out of riders anyhow.

I was wondering what was up with Discovery when the rumor of Hincapie
riding for T-Mobile next year popped up after the Tour. I figured he
would be one of the first ones informed of any monumental changes.

R

DirtRoadie said:

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-sp-cycle10aug10,1,3407791.story?coll=la-headlines-business

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/cycling/2007-08-10-discovery-shut-down_N.htm

They were about out of riders anyhow.

DR

How does one interpret this?:

"This was a difficult decision, not made any easier by our recent Tour de France success," general manager Bill Stapleton said in a statement. "We were in talks with a number of companies about the opportunity and were confident a new sponsor was imminent. We have chosen, however, to end those discussions."

1. We could have gotten a sponsor, but we're no longer interested, as cycling just has too much PR downside.
2. We were confident we'd get a sponsor, but we're not going to get a sponsor.

Dan

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How does one interpret this?:

"This was a difficult decision, not made any easier by our recent Tour de
France success," general manager Bill Stapleton said in a statement. "We
were in talks with a number of companies about the opportunity and were
confident a new sponsor was imminent. We have chosen, however, to end
those discussions."

1. We could have gotten a sponsor, but we're no longer interested, as
cycling just has too much PR downside.
2. We were confident we'd get a sponsor, but we're not going to get a
sponsor.

Dan

Given that everything is in past tense, I don't see much confusion. They
wanted a sponsor, they thought they were close, but they were essentially
strung along and the time by which the needed to have something set in
concrete is past.

And with what the stock market's been doing lately, their luck wasn't likely
to change if they were to hold out longer (which they didn't know would be
the case when this decision was made).

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com

On Aug 10, 11:21 am, Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m>

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DirtRoadie said:

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-sp-cycle10aug10,1,3407791.story?co...

Quoted message said:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/cycling/2007-08-10-discovery-shut-down...

Quoted message said:

They were about out of riders anyhow.

Quoted message said:

DR

How does one interpret this?:

"This was a difficult decision, not made any easier by our recent Tour de France success," general manager Bill Stapleton said in a statement. "We were in talks with a number of companies about the opportunity and were confident a new sponsor was imminent. We have chosen, however, to end those discussions."

1. We could have gotten a sponsor, but we're no longer interested, as cycling just has too much PR downside.
2. We were confident we'd get a sponsor, but we're not going to get a sponsor.

Dan

Possibly a ploy to reinvent themselves as a smaller team with lower
budget, fewer expectations and less baggage.

Bret

Mike Jacoubowsky said:

Quoted message said:

How does one interpret this?:

"This was a difficult decision, not made any easier by our recent Tour de
France success," general manager Bill Stapleton said in a statement. "We
were in talks with a number of companies about the opportunity and were
confident a new sponsor was imminent. We have chosen, however, to end
those discussions."

1. We could have gotten a sponsor, but we're no longer interested, as
cycling just has too much PR downside.
2. We were confident we'd get a sponsor, but we're not going to get a
sponsor.

Dan

Given that everything is in past tense, I don't see much confusion. They
wanted a sponsor, they thought they were close, but they were essentially
strung along and the time by which the needed to have something set in
concrete is past.

And with what the stock market's been doing lately, their luck wasn't likely
to change if they were to hold out longer (which they didn't know would be
the case when this decision was made).

Interesting quote:
http://www.velonews.com/race/int/articles/13071.0.html

Tailwind spokesman PJ Rabice told VeloNews Friday morning that the decision was not based on "a failure to find a new sponsor."

Rabice declined to elaborate, but promised additional information later in the day.

On Aug 9, 9:42 am, Crescentius Vespasianus <[email hidden]>

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DirtRoadie said:

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-sp-cycle10aug10,1,3407791.story?co...

Quoted message said:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/cycling/2007-08-10-discovery-shut-down...

Quoted message said:

They were about out of riders anyhow.

Quoted message said:

DR

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Despite its sterling record, Tailwind
has been unable to sign a title sponsor
for the 2008 season. Discovery Channel's
three-year contract expires this year
and new corporate management decided
against extending the deal.
Discovery, like many other cycling
teams, has been affected by the doping
scandals that have damaged the sport's
reputation in recent years. Although no
team member has ever been sanctioned for
doping while on the squad, the team had
to deal with the issue.
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Doping has killed cycling, now Levi can
get a real job. Once all of the
sponsorship money runs away, then what?
Even Lance's stock has dropped, have
you noticed? The only thing that keeps
Lance a float is the cancer fight stuff
he does. Greg predicted this, why
wasn't anyone listening?

Cycling is bigger than ever.

Bret said:

Possibly a ploy to reinvent themselves as a smaller team with lower
budget, fewer expectations and less baggage.

i.e., swap places with Slipstream

DR

On Aug 10, 11:30?am, Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m>

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Mike Jacoubowsky said:

Quoted message said:

How does one interpret this?:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

"This was a difficult decision, not made any easier by our recent Tour de
France success," general manager Bill Stapleton said in a statement. "We
were in talks with a number of companies about the opportunity and were
confident a new sponsor was imminent. We have chosen, however, to end
those discussions."

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

1. We could have gotten a sponsor, but we're no longer interested, as
cycling just has too much PR downside.
2. We were confident we'd get a sponsor, but we're not going to get a
sponsor.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Dan

Quoted message said:

Given that everything is in past tense, I don't see much confusion. They
wanted a sponsor, they thought they were close, but they were essentially
strung along and the time by which the needed to have something set in
concrete is past.

Quoted message said:

And with what the stock market's been doing lately, their luck wasn't likely
to change if they were to hold out longer (which they didn't know would be
the case when this decision was made).

Interesting quote:http://www.velonews.com/race/int/articles/13071.0.html

Tailwind spokesman PJ Rabice told VeloNews Friday morning that the decision was not based on "a failure to find a new sponsor."

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BS...if they could find a sponsor they would take it.....it can only
be a failure to find a sponsor.....

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BS...if they could find a sponsor they would take it.....it can only
be a failure to find a sponsor.....

My guess is that it was a failure to find a sponsor with deep enough
pockets.

DirtRoadie said:

They were about out of riders anyhow.

I suspect not many rich sponsors wanted to lend their name to a team
that had a good probability of turning up in the next doping scandal.

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I suspect not many rich sponsors

Liquidity in hedge funds? no boom no racing. I've watched that, it
happens. UGLY!
anyway, some racing teams go on forever, Williams, Tyrell, McLaren,
Lotus, Gilmore Heating and Cooling and some disapppear.

the GREAT MORAL DILEMMA drugs pose for cycle racing are counterpoint
to a reported VAST INCREASE in spectator interest until Prudhomme ASO
decided...

RIP!

http://www.velonews.com/race/int/articles/13074.0.html

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I suspect not many rich sponsors

Liquidity in hedge funds? no boom no racing. I've watched that, it
happens. UGLY!
anyway, some racing teams go on forever, Williams, Tyrell, McLaren,
Lotus, Gilmore Heating and Cooling and some disapppear.

Gilmore Heating and Cooling doesn't do so well in the bulldozer category.