Disc brakes are increasingly

scott said:

Disc brakes are increasingly taking over in the
mountain bike world because they have some clear
advantages over rim brakes!!!

Care to expand on this? Or are you just going to make the assertion and
not back it up?

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scott said:

Disc brakes are increasingly taking over in the
mountain bike world because they have some clear
advantages over rim brakes!!!

That's fantastic! Thanks for letting us know!!!!!!!!!

Ritch

quote='Stuart Lamble'On 2004-11-23 said:

Disc brakes are increasingly taking over in the
mountain bike world because they have some clear
advantages over rim brakes!!!

Care to expand on this? Or are you just going to make the assertion and
not back it up?

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Why back up the assertion when the scott's already said that they have "clear" advantages. 😉

jazmo said:

Stuart Lamble said:

scott said:

Disc brakes are increasingly taking over in the
mountain bike world because they have some clear
advantages over rim brakes!!!

Care to expand on this? Or are you just going to make the assertion
and not back it up?

Why back up the assertion when the scott's already said that they have
"clear" advantages. 😉

*sniffs around*
*smells something tempting*
*wanders up*
*carefully inspects the lure dangling oh so temptingly from the line*

Nope. Not touching that one. Not with the proverbial forty foot barge
pole. Not even if it's inna bun, carefully crafted by hand by Tibetan
monks...

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...as apart from smoked, or tinted?

Personally rim brakes work OK for me, pads last heaps & are cheap to replace.

Stuart Lamble said:

jazmo said:

Stuart Lamble said:

On 2004-11-23, scott <[email hidden]> wrote:
> Disc brakes are increasingly taking over in the
> mountain bike world because they have some clear
> advantages over rim brakes!!!

Care to expand on this? Or are you just going to make the assertion
and not back it up?

Why back up the assertion when the scott's already said that they have
"clear" advantages. 😉

*sniffs around*
*smells something tempting*
*wanders up*
*carefully inspects the lure dangling oh so temptingly from the line*

Nope. Not touching that one. Not with the proverbial forty foot barge
pole. Not even if it's inna bun, carefully crafted by hand by Tibetan
monks...

I was waiting for the follow up "buy your disc brakes now for only $$$
at <random url>

T

scott said:

Disc brakes are increasingly taking over in the
mountain bike world because they have some clear
advantages over rim brakes!!!

Forget about disc brakes, I want to know how many MTB's you can buy new
without fork suspension. I had a look athe Learsport display at the
local shopping centre the other week thinking of replacing my aging
commuter, and every MTB had fork suspension. I don't really need it (or
disc brakes) and it is one more thing that could possibly go wrong. Does
anyone sell a "basic" bike, ie without gadgets.

DaveB "a simple bike for a simple man"

DaveB said:

scott said:

Disc brakes are increasingly taking over in the
mountain bike world because they have some clear
advantages over rim brakes!!!

Forget about disc brakes, I want to know how many MTB's you can buy new
without fork suspension. I had a look athe Learsport display at the
local shopping centre the other week thinking of replacing my aging
commuter, and every MTB had fork suspension. I don't really need it (or
disc brakes) and it is one more thing that could possibly go wrong. Does
anyone sell a "basic" bike, ie without gadgets.

DaveB "a simple bike for a simple man"

I'm pretty certain learsport did have some without suspension and they
were very cheap, but I'm not certain; it's unlikely the shop had the
full range so check out the website, I think it's www.learsport.com.au ?

Tamyka Bell said:

I'm pretty certain learsport did have some without suspension and they
were very cheap, but I'm not certain; it's unlikely the shop had the
full range so check out the website, I think it's www.learsport.com.au ?

Tam it wasn't a shop it was actually Learsport doing displays in the
shopping centre. Amazingly enough they had almost their full range in a
space not much bigger than your average bedroom. I think it was Gags
sayign that they do a similar thing at his local shopping centre too.

DaveB

DaveB said:

Tamyka Bell said:

I'm pretty certain learsport did have some without suspension and they
were very cheap, but I'm not certain; it's unlikely the shop had the
full range so check out the website, I think it's www.learsport.com.au ?

Tam it wasn't a shop it was actually Learsport doing displays in the
shopping centre. Amazingly enough they had almost their full range in a
space not much bigger than your average bedroom. I think it was Gags
sayign that they do a similar thing at his local shopping centre too.

DaveB

Wow, they don't do that in BrisVegas. The guy who I bought mine off
still emails me to ask me how it's going, which is nice, he's a good
bloke, ex-triathlete with a massive bike obsession who knows how to get
good deals and how to give them, and he's partial to helping out ADF
members.

Go to the website and look under "bikes" then "everyday mountain bikes"
and they've got no suspension, $179 or $299.

Sounds kinda like a huffy in disguise though.

Tamyka Bell said:

DaveB said:

Tamyka Bell said:

I'm pretty certain learsport did have some without suspension and they
were very cheap, but I'm not certain; it's unlikely the shop had the
full range so check out the website, I think it's www.learsport.com.au ?

Tam it wasn't a shop it was actually Learsport doing displays in the
shopping centre. Amazingly enough they had almost their full range in a
space not much bigger than your average bedroom. I think it was Gags
sayign that they do a similar thing at his local shopping centre too.

DaveB

Wow, they don't do that in BrisVegas. The guy who I bought mine off
still emails me to ask me how it's going, which is nice, he's a good
bloke, ex-triathlete with a massive bike obsession who knows how to get
good deals and how to give them, and he's partial to helping out ADF
members.

Go to the website and look under "bikes" then "everyday mountain bikes"
and they've got no suspension, $179 or $299.

Sounds kinda like a huffy in disguise though.

Oh wait, the MT3000 only... I looked closer and the other one does have
suspension forks.

Tamyka Bell said:

DaveB said:

Tamyka Bell said:

I'm pretty certain learsport did have some without suspension and they
were very cheap, but I'm not certain; it's unlikely the shop had the
full range so check out the website, I think it's www.learsport.com.au ?

Tam it wasn't a shop it was actually Learsport doing displays in the
shopping centre. Amazingly enough they had almost their full range in a
space not much bigger than your average bedroom. I think it was Gags
sayign that they do a similar thing at his local shopping centre too.

DaveB

Wow, they don't do that in BrisVegas. The guy who I bought mine off
still emails me to ask me how it's going, which is nice, he's a good
bloke, ex-triathlete with a massive bike obsession who knows how to get
good deals and how to give them, and he's partial to helping out ADF
members.

Go to the website and look under "bikes" then "everyday mountain bikes"
and they've got no suspension, $179 or $299.

Sounds kinda like a huffy in disguise though.

Wait, the MT3000 has no suspension but the others do.
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Tamyka Bell said:

DaveB said:

Tam it wasn't a shop it was actually Learsport doing displays in the
shopping centre. Amazingly enough they had almost their full range in a
space not much bigger than your average bedroom. I think it was Gags
sayign that they do a similar thing at his local shopping centre too.

DaveB

Wow, they don't do that in BrisVegas.

Funny -- because I was trundling through the Glen (a shopping centre in
Glen Waverley, Melbourne; fairly close to my current home, although
it'll be a bit out of my way once I make the move out to Mitcham), and
Learsport had a display going near the food court.

Thinking I might be better off going to the LBS, though, especially
since I'm looking at a bunch of stuff to go with it. *shrugs* No great
hassle, I guess. I'll still have a look, see what I can get through
them.

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I have been wondering why disc brakes are fitted to a lot of MTBs but not road bikes. This even aplpies within individual brands...I've seen Giant MTBs fitted with discs but as far as I'm aware (not that I've looked very hard) none of the Giant road bikes have them. Are they better in grimy condidtions or something? Not that that's really relevant, given the amount of grit and [censored] you encounter on the average public road when it rains. Any thoughts?

"DaveB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

Forget about disc brakes, I want to know how many MTB's you can buy new
without fork suspension. I had a look athe Learsport display at the
local shopping centre the other week thinking of replacing my aging
commuter, and every MTB had fork suspension. I don't really need it (or
disc brakes) and it is one more thing that could possibly go wrong. Does
anyone sell a "basic" bike, ie without gadgets.

Dodsun used to do a full Shimano (be quiet Eurotrash.. no
Campy to help you now! ;-) ) mtb without suspension for
a very good price. This was a long time ago though but try
to find them - they might still have the same philosophy..

hippy

"Stuart Lamble" <[email hidden]

Quoted message said:

Funny -- because I was trundling through the Glen (a shopping centre in
Glen Waverley, Melbourne; fairly close to my current home, although
it'll be a bit out of my way once I make the move out to Mitcham), and
Learsport had a display going near the food court.

They've had them at Knox and Eastland shopping centres too..

hippy

scott said:

Disc brakes are increasingly taking over in the
mountain bike world because they have some clear
advantages over rim brakes!!!

I don't brake.

Heh...

quote='DaveB'scott said:

Disc brakes are increasingly taking over in the
mountain bike world because they have some clear
advantages over rim brakes!!!

Forget about disc brakes, I want to know how many MTB's you can buy new
without fork suspension. I had a look athe Learsport display at the
local shopping centre the other week thinking of replacing my aging
commuter, and every MTB had fork suspension. I don't really need it (or
disc brakes) and it is one more thing that could possibly go wrong. Does
anyone sell a "basic" bike, ie without gadgets.

DaveB "a simple bike for a simple man"[/QUOTE]

[Fork rant]
Better a good rigid fork that a crappy, boing, boing, un-damped, non-tunable, cheaply made for looks only "suspension" fork.
"Good" forks start at the price of a cheaper bike anyway ( ~$500 to $1000)
[/ Fork rant]

Your LBS should be able to swap out the un-wanted fork for you. Kona & Surly make some good ones. With disk mounts if needed.
Abbotsford Cycles has the Surly 1x1 frame & forks if you want to build something.

hippy said:

"DaveB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

Forget about disc brakes, I want to know how many MTB's you can buy
new without fork suspension. I had a look athe Learsport display at
the local shopping centre the other week thinking of replacing my
aging commuter, and every MTB had fork suspension. I don't really
need it (or disc brakes) and it is one more thing that could
possibly go wrong. Does anyone sell a "basic" bike, ie without
gadgets.

Dodsun used to do a full Shimano (be quiet Eurotrash.. no
Campy to help you now! ;-) ) mtb without suspension for
a very good price. This was a long time ago though but try
to find them - they might still have the same philosophy..

The Dodsun Burnout sounds like the one hippy's talking about. Not really what I'd call a "basic" bike though. It was about the best value quality MTB under $800 without suspension forks 4 or 5 years ago, at least in Melbourne - believe me I looked. Bought one, and it's very good as a commuter and tourer. I'm pretty sure I've seen one or two around recently with suspension forks though, so that may not be an option any more.

Front suspension and disc brakes are the new aluminium. i.e. of little, or no, benefit on low end bikes, but wanted by the majority of buyers in that market. Economy of scale brings the price down, until they're significantly cheaper. Steel frames have already been wiped out. Rigid forks are close to extinction. Any votes on whether it will be hardtails or rim brakes next?