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  1. I just got a SWB recumbent that comes with caliper brakes, but has a provision for a disc at least
    on the front. Right now the calipers are fine, however if I went touring where I have a bigger load
    on the bike, and there are steeper hills, it occurs to me I might want the disc. On a regular bike,
    I would be comfortable cutting out the rear brake, and having two on the front wheel with different
    feels, and a double up on brake reliability. On this bike, I am not yet quite used to the ballance,
    it seems as though the rear wheel is if anything even more likely to loose contact with the road.
    There could easily be 300-350 on this bike at times.

    I'm not really inclined to this solution, but is there such a thing as a 2 brake control fron one
    grip? So I could have a disc front, and modest breaking on both wheels from the other grip?

    What would be the best setup?

  2. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    I just got a SWB recumbent that comes with caliper brakes, but has a provision for a disc at least
    on the front. Right now the calipers are fine, however if I went touring where I have a bigger
    load on the bike, and there are steeper hills, it occurs to me I might want the disc. On a regular
    bike, I would be comfortable cutting out the rear brake, and having two on the front wheel with
    different feels, and a double up on brake reliability. On this bike, I am not yet quite used to
    the ballance, it seems as though the rear wheel is if anything even more likely to loose contact
    with the road. There could easily be 300-350 on this bike at times.

    I'm not really inclined to this solution, but is there such a thing as a 2 brake control fron one
    grip? So I could have a disc front, and modest breaking on both wheels from the other grip?

    What would be the best setup?

    There's hope. Check out the Sheldon Brown article on tandem 3X2 brakes:
    sheldonbrown.comtandem brakes.html
    --

    Cletus D. Lee Bacchetta Giro Lightning Voyager clee.orgclee.org
    - Bellaire, TX USA -

  3. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I'm not really inclined to this solution, but is there such a thing as a 2 brake control fron
    one grip? So I could have a disc front, and modest breaking on both wheels from the other grip?

    What would be the best setup?

    There's hope. Check out the Sheldon Brown article on tandem 3X2 brakes:
    sheldonbrown.comtandem brakes.html

    Thanks. Interesting page

    I guess i will just stick with what I have for the moment, and see how I use the brakes, if the time
    comes when I feel fine with front only, I might go in that direction.

    Nice blast from the past info on the Pedersen brake, on that page. I had those on a Canondale, I
    still have the rear somewhere. It was great, never locked up dangerously.

  4. Hard to take disc brake advice from someone who can't even spell disc brake. (Sorry, I had to stick
    that in there Sheldon actually has some good advice most of the time).

    (Protactical) said:

    I just got a SWB recumbent that comes with caliper brakes, but has a provision for a disc at least
    on the front. Right now the calipers are fine, however if I went touring where I have a bigger load
    on the bike, and there are steeper hills, it occurs to me I might want the disc. On a regular bike,
    I would be comfortable cutting out the rear brake, and having two on the front wheel with different
    feels, and a double up on brake reliability. On this bike, I am not yet quite used to the ballance,
    it seems as though the rear wheel is if anything even more likely to loose contact with the road.
    There could easily be 300-350 on this bike at times.

    I'm not really inclined to this solution, but is there such a thing as a 2 brake control fron one
    grip? So I could have a disc front, and modest breaking on both wheels from the other grip?

    What would be the best setup?

    Bryan J. Ball Editor/Publisher www.bentrideronline.com

  5. Quoted message said:

    Hard to take disc brake advice from someone who can't even spell disc brake...

    It can be spelled either way.

    I was curious, so I decided to do an informal survey. I asked 4 mechanical engineers how they spelled it, and they ALL said "disk, but some people spell it disc, and that's ok too".

    I asked three technologically challenged people that can't adjust the derailleurs or brakes on their own bikes how they spelled it, and they all said "disc".

    A Google search on "disc brake" returns approximately four times more hits than "disk brake", but I find it's not uncommon for Google searches on just about anything to return more hits on opinions and marketing hype, than sound technical data. FWIW, a search on deraileur will turn up a significant number of hits even, though that is NOT a correct spelling of derailleur. So maybe a lot of bike people can't spell, but this isn't one of those cases.

    Sheldon provides an extremely valuable service to the cycling community, and he spells good too!

    John

  6. "Protactical" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I just got a SWB recumbent that comes with caliper brakes, but has a provision for a disc at least
    on the front. Right now the calipers are fine, however if I went touring where I have a bigger
    load on the bike, and there are steeper hills, it occurs to me I might want the disc. On a regular
    bike, I would be comfortable cutting out the rear brake, and having two on the front wheel with
    different feels, and a double up on brake reliability. On this bike, I am not yet quite used to
    the ballance, it seems as though the rear wheel is if anything even more likely to loose contact
    with the road. There could easily be 300-350 on this bike at times.

    I'm not really inclined to this solution, but is there such a thing as a 2 brake control fron one
    grip? So I could have a disc front, and modest breaking on both wheels from the other grip?

    What would be the best setup?

    First, I will assume you are talking about operating both front and rear brakes and the calipers are
    identical in design/construction? Ie both side pulls, U brakes, V brakes, etc If you are running
    front and rear at once, the only thing you need to concern yourself with is balancing the pull due
    to the different cable/housing lengths for the front and rear. This can be accomplished by running
    the front brake a little looser than the rear. It isn't exact compensation but it will get you very
    close and will enable you to set up your own front/rear bias depending on which end you want to
    brake a little harder, or if you want both wheels to brake about even. I set up my front brakes like
    this on the last trike I built and even with major cable length differences (one being about 6" long
    and the other about 30" long), braking is still just about as even as I could get with individual
    levers. Just takes a little more playing to set it up to your liking.

    There are handy little 2-into-1, or 1-into-2 brake cable adaptors that are used all the time on BMX
    bikes. They cost about $10 Cdn each and should be easy to locate at your local bike shop. There are
    a number of different styles of these and one is below:
    bikeguide.orgmodcable1.jpg

    Barring those, there are a number of home-made versions of two into one adapters that can be found
    on homebuilder sites. I think Ricky Horowitz has one on his trike design site. I made my own and
    tried to make it very simple. The two picture links are below.

    jkcc.comtrike%204%20dual%20brake.jpg and
    jkcc.comtrike%204%20dual%20brake%20close%20up.jpg

    For the brake handle side of the setup, I took a short piece of 1/4" mild steel round stock, and
    drilled a small hole in each end for the brake cables to go through. I took a 1/4" bit and drilled
    all the way through the brake lever so the round stock stuck out on both sides of the brake lever.
    If you get the measurement right (depending on the thickness of your brake lever) the brake cable
    ends are snug against the side of the lever. I added a small washer on each side of mine to make
    sure it would pivot as smoothly as possible while braking.

    To make dual cable housing stops for the brake lever housing side, I just used 3 Allen head cap
    screws. One 5/16" cap screw that would thread into the axctual brake lever housing. I used two 1/4"
    cap screws and cut most of the threaded portion off. I drilled a 1/8" hole down through the center
    of each screw for the brake cable to run through. I took the three screws and laid them beside each
    other (like this - oOo) face down and welded them together. The cable housing fits very nicely into
    the top of the 1/4" cap screws and the 1/8" hole is large enough that there is minimum contact on
    the brake cable so minimum chance for wear.

    The setup works better than I thought it would and with a little patience, it's not hard to balance
    the two brakes so they apply equal braking pressure. Hope it helps 🙂

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